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    Titan Z vs Titan X?

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Which is better? I read somewhere that that Titan X is not so great because sometimes the dual GPUs in it don't scale well? Then why is the price tag of a Titan Z double the Titan X?

    Which is really better?
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 9, 2015
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    Titan Z = 2 x Titan Black with downclock. Will require SLI to perform properly; being a single card does NOT excuse it from needing to use SLI. Recommend two actual Titan Blacks instead.
    Titan X = Full maxwell card. DOES NOT CONTAIN DUAL-PRECISION RENDERING BLOCK. Cannot recommend purchase. 980Ti better bang for buck by $350.
     
    D2 Ultima, Jun 9, 2015
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    Titan Z is a double precision CUDA compute card, not for gaming. It's two underclocked Titan Black GPUs on a single PCB. And since Titan cards never drop below $1000, it costs twice as much as the newer Maxwell-based Titan X.

    Titan X is for single and half precision compute, but for gaming 980 Ti makes it irrelevant.

    Also this belongs in the desktop hardware section.
     
    octiceps, Jun 9, 2015
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    sorry, thought it's graphics.

    so you advice me for my next system due after the Skylake release to go with a Dual 980TI GTX rather than Dual Titan Xs?
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 9, 2015
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    No, I recommend you stop jumping the gun for the umpteenth time and wait until Skylake actually drops before surveying the GPU landscape. AMD has yet to even release Fury, and who knows what pricing will be like at the end of the year.
     
    octiceps, Jun 9, 2015
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    Right, I'm gonna zip it until Skylake arrives and ends my confusions
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 9, 2015
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    Honestly I would not bother with AMD, I don't expect anything special out of their next GPU release. If you have the itch to get something now I would go with SLI 980TI. Gameworks as bad as it is for the industry is becoming standard in a lot of big name releases.
     
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    why bothering buying a top card from nvidia when in 2years it will be crippled :) .Im sure that AMD is making big things.Bear in mind that AMD will profit mostly cause of new windows 10 and dx12
     
    dumitrumitu24, Jun 9, 2015
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  9. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Well E3 launch is next week so we shall see.
     
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    People always say wait for the next card. if you wait then you'll never build a PC always waiting. Yes if you buy a top tier card it will be outdated 2 years from now, that's the way it goes and that's the way it's been since the home computer has been produced.although not as bad as in the late 80's early 90's. The last 12-15 years it has bee exponentially speeding up with newer technology every few months.

    So I guess the point it is keep speculating and waiting for the next generation or buy what fits your needs now and start enjoying the computer.
     
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    These words hold some truth. However, OP owns a lappy with 2x780m. It's not like he can't wait a bit longer. At least till E3, where AM D will, hopefully, shed some light on their 300 series. Patient people always get rewarded, but not me, I just decided to dump all my cash now on 4690K and GTX 970 :D.
     
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    :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool:
     
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    I know, I should have just borrowed one from you :D.
     
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    ftfy :D
     
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    I thought we were Internet buddies :(...
     
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    My second titan x just shipped today, can't wait to benchmark these in SLI


    HNGGGGGGGGGG...
     
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    Friends don't let friends buy GTX 970s :D
     
    octiceps, Jun 10, 2015
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    And no one stopped me. Oh my, I have no buddies on NBR :(.
     
    killkenny1, Jun 10, 2015
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    Unless I'm the supplier of course :D
     
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    My rule: Buy what you need, when you need it. And don't worry about what's coming out tomorrow.

    If you need the <CPU / GPU / laptop / etc> right now, then it is never worth waiting.
    If you don't need the <CPU / GPU / laptop / etc> right now, then it is always worth waiting.
     
    kent1146, Jun 12, 2015
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  21. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Hmmm my main concern about AMD Fury is the 4GB VRAM limit. For an sli 4k setup, having more than 4GB of VRAM is not overkill, its actually useful.
     
    Galm, Jun 12, 2015
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    I'd wait to see what gets released, especially around the 4GB of RAM. My guess is that 4GB is just the reference design. It's not uncommon for graphics card manufacturers to do modified designs that add more VRAM onto the card.
     
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    There will be 8GB Fury SKUs
     
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    I'm expecting the price to fall in the 800 dollar range
     
    Splintah, Jun 12, 2015
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Do you think it will be a better value than the 980 ti? Also personal question why the hell do you have 3 gaming laptops? Especially the alienware 17 when you have that desktop??
     
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    life situations, I am between two homes and when I am at one place I can really only have the laptop and while I am at my primary residence I can use the desktop. I got the P650SE before I got the 17 and I got the 17 because I decided while I am at the place where I can only use the laptop that I might as well use some of the desktops power. The 18 I got for sentimental reasons.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Haha cool! Hopefully someday I'll be able to buy an sli notebook for sentimental reasons. Planning on selling my laptop to switch to desktop soon.
     
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    Hopefully that day never comes. I don't want SLI notebooks to go extinct.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    That didn't mean they would go extinct, I just meant I wish I had the cash to buy like a 3000 dollar notebook out of sentimentality, not a need for it.
     
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    yea but it's very possible at the same time, it would be pretty bad for enthusiasts like us
     
    Splintah, Jun 12, 2015
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    CES brought some light to the darkness though
     
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    Idk about that. I saw a lot of BGA garbage featured this year.
     
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    Is the limit from hardware availability or something?

    I'm concerned about how much VRAM the Fiji FirePro would have. The can't have less VRAM than before can they?
     
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    4GB total because HBM1 is limited to 2Gb per die and 1GB (4 hi) per stack. However, rumor is AMD will use a dual-link interposer to do 8 hi stack, allowing for 8GB total.

    [​IMG]
     
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