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    Worth buying a 5820K and a RX 480 (8GB) for €1000/$1100 (for 1440p)?

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by jaug1337, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. jaug1337

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    Hi folks,

    I need advice on whether I should buy this monstrosity of a machine for the said price point, it is second hand.

    I am going to be gaming on my AOC U3477PQU (3440 x 1440).
    • SSD: 120GB SSD Corsair LS
    • CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 Hydro Series
    • RAM: Crucial DDR4 Ballistix Sport 8GB
    • CPU: Intel Core i7 5820K
    • Motherboard: ASRock X99M Extreme4
    • GPU: RX 480 AMD 8GB Sapphire
    • Case: Corsair Carbide Air 240 Cube, Black
    • PSU: HX850 Corsair Gold Certified PSU
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    I mean, if you can live with medium-high settings in games, sure. The 480 is essentially the same as a 980 from last gen.
     
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    I am looking into upgrading the GPU at some point and adding an additional 8GB of RAM.

    I am not picky with in-game settings, I will be overclocking heavily and I'd just like to play games on my monitor.

    Thanks for the reply.
     
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    Games will easily be playable. Even demanding ones such as Witcher 3 will run well at medium settings.

    And you have a good baseline - can easily upgrade to a Vega 56 or 1080 in the future.
     
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    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    My thoughts precisely.

    However, I might be on to getting a 7700K and a 1080 strix for 400€ more approx $470, AND a asus 240hz pg258q included in that price.

    Jesus christ am I confused.
     
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    The 7700K is currently horrible value. The upcoming 8700K is going 6-core/12-thread and i3s are becoming quad-cores and one of them is unlocked. The 7700K's resell value will drop by 3x very very soon. If you want a current platform - Ryzen or wait 2 months to see what Intel come up with. Kaby lake is just not good anymore.
     
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    I thought so.

    Man is it a bad time to build a PC right now. Prices are through the roof.
     
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    Yup. GPUs, SSDs, RAM - all of those are going up in price. Though at least CPU cores are getting MUCH cheaper.

    My best advice would be to either pick up the system in the first post or build a R7 1700 + B350 board setup with a 2nd hand 980/970/390(X) and a good PSU (since those tend to last a LONG time). Then, when GPU prices normalize, pick up a 1080 or (if something new is coming till then) wait for Navi/Volta.

    EDIT: My logic: AM4 support is confirmed until at least 2020 so 2 more CPU generations on it - plenty of upgrade path left.
     
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    Ryzen is unfortunately ungodly expensive in Europe.

    The build above should have me lasting a good while, as 4 cores didn't suffice for streaming and computing for school, so a 6 core should do the job, planning to heavily OC it.

    The GPU can be upgraded anytime, so there's that.


    The Ryzen build will have to be postponed slightly, maybe until Zen 2 comes out, Intel is spitting CPU's out faster than lighting, and AMD is launching new architectures faster than they can implement it.
     
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    Last word of advice. The 5820K (Haswell-E) and Ryzen are soldered meaning lower temperatures and less hassle. Intel current and future CPUs use paste. So if you are an overclocker, Skylake-X, Kaby Lake and likely Covfefe Lake all need a delid before any OCing is performed. But I'm sure you've read up on the subject.
     
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    Hehe Covfefe, yes, but I have no plans to go with Intel CPU's for a good while. I'm a cheap person who seeks the souls of price to performance.
    Also, Intel has been nothing but a hassle in recent years.

    Great appreciate the comments. I have been in the laptop world for ages, and even though I have kept up to date with desktops, I still need to get one to fully enter that realm.

    Luckily this 5820K is also liquid cooled, so I can OC to what my heart desires, and hope for the best with the silicon lottery.
     
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    Assuming that system is in proper working order, it's definitely good value. I mean, the actual design behind Haswell/Broadwell-E is actually superior to Skylake-X (Ringbus vs Mesh). Hence why people are actually actively buying the older 6900 over the newer 7820. It's simply better in performance, it's soldered and it's found for similar cash.
     
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    Skylake has been a toilet disaster. You'd have to be delusional to think otherwise.

    Just like AMD's amazing Vega hype and launch.

    Update: I am in the process of buying the said workstation.

    I have a great deal on this, especially considering I am practically getting a Ryzen 1600 like performance for a similar price and an RX 480 Sapphire 8GB for slightly below the European MSRP.

    On top of that, I'm getting a super clean workstation, with all official receipts and a superb case that will last a lifetime.

    Thanks to everyone reading :)
     
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    My 5820K runs happily at 4.0GHz with a Corsair AIO liquid cooler. I can go up to 4.6GHz if I care to deal with higher temps. At 4.0GHz it's < 45C fully loaded and quiet. If I go to 4.6GHz then I get ~ 62C and fans and pump are noticeably louder. But at > 15% improvement in encoding time is worth the extra noise. I just bump it down to 4.0GHz for regular and gaming use.
     
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    Mine is at 4GHz at 37C average, I am considering going higher.

    I also have a Corsair AIO.

    Even got my RX480 down to a cool 54C.

    Let's see how far we can push this!
     
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    So watercooled my RX480, custom bios, it is a reference card however, pushed it to almost 300W+ and I might have killed it.

    Haha, I was getting absurdly high stable clocks tho, achieved 1510 MHz on water.
     
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    Small update.

    My RX480 works fine, 5820k at @4.6GHz on water too, they are all good :D