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    [Help] Does anyone know if a 2.5" HDD can fit into the 12.1" T4410 and does it have SATA II support?

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by ac3knight, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. ac3knight

    ac3knight Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm planning to get my own HDD for the T4410 and I'm wondering if it uses a 1.8" or 2.5" HDD?

    Also, I understand that the T4410 uses the Mobile Intel® GM45 Express chipset, which has the ICH9M controller that supports SATA II.

    Does anyone know if Fujitsu restricts this to SATA I?
     
  2. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    T4410 fits 2.5 inch HDD.

    I found the specifications on the APAC and America site are sometimes misleading :), try to look at Fujitsu Europe website instead.

    I have a T5010 and I can recall Fujitsu did 'limit' the SATA II into SATA I in their website's specification sheet :D but fortunately they didn't in the real life :)

    Both APAC & US sheet stated that T5010 is using SATA I (150) transfer mode.
    In contrary, what I got is a fully working SATA II (300) drive confirmed physically, by identification software and benchmark in my system. I live in APAC area FWIW.

    That might also happens on T4410

    These links may help to explain everything (also as references):
    Europe spec -> SATA II
    APAC specs -> SATA I
    America Specs -> SATA I


    I'm not sure, they may ship a SATA I drive to you instead,
    but I'm quite sure T4410 BIOS and chipset do support SATA II--no matter where you bought it.
     
  3. ac3knight

    ac3knight Notebook Enthusiast

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    i live in apac too, from singapore, r u from singapore lol

    did u buy ur notebook from overseas?
     
  4. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    No and No lol, :p I bought my T5010 from a authorised Fujitsu local dealer.
    Oh and btw I'm quite sure every Fujitsu sold here is imported from Singapore, since Singapore is basically sort of Fujitsu 'HQ' in Asia-Pacific Area. :) (not sure, it could be Hong Kong).

    Well, I'm living somewhere really near to Singapore, I could say.
     
  5. ac3knight

    ac3knight Notebook Enthusiast

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    actually, i think the APAC HQ might be in HK instead! lol

    i asked fujitsu singapore about the windows 7 upgrade and i was directed to the HK site?? not sure why..

    anyway i'll be importing the t4410 from the US because it isn't available in singapore yet, and I think I can save at least sgd 800 to sgd 900 by doing so (inclusive of sales tax + fx rate + shipping)!
     
  6. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    Are you sure? The International Warranty will only be valid for 1 year, after that you'll have to bring your lappie to US for any warranty claim. Well, if you're actually domiciled in US and just being in SG temporarily, now that's a different case.

    Yea, I know Fujitsu price in US is considerably lower, do you have any idea why?

    It's like that we the APAC consumers are being charged extra US$400-US$500.

    Or were you referring to custom builder in US website that allows us to remove unneeded features to reduce the price?
     
  7. ac3knight

    ac3knight Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah it's 1 year warranty but its limited parts warranty..
    even if i extend it, the key parts (e.g. touchscreen) will not be covered by the warranty.

    in the event that the gfx, hdd or ram becomes defective, then it wouldn't cost so much to pay for the repairs or get a replacement. however if the motherboard is fried then it is a different story... lol

    i'm not sure why its more expensive in APAC, but this is economics i guess lol
     
  8. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Electronics are substantially cheaper in the States across the board. I was under the impression that most of the T4410s are offered with a 3 year warranty.

    Also, does it matter if it was Sata I or II, seeing as to how mechanical HDDs are nowhere close to those limits just yet? As far as I know, most SSDs don't approach Sata I speeds either?
     
  9. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    I thought fujitsu was imported from japan. Mines was made in japan and imported from there too.
     
  10. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    Well, personally I will not paying even a cent for manufacturing flaw repair ;)
    Fujitsu is MIJ, I won't be really worried, but Murphy's Law is always there.

    but if you think you can afford it, well.. and FWIW I notice that Fujitsu charges consumer with arguably high labor-cost for a single repair service--often the labor-cost is about 3/4 of the component price--not to mention their component price.

    I'll think twice if I were you. The cost you saved from US price might well become wasted into repair cost.



    Yes, you're stating the obvious :) but I'm wondering why :confused:
    Fujitsu 3 years warranty consisted of 2 years local warranty and 1 year international warranty

    It does matter if it was SATA I or SATA II :) Aside from speed increase there's also NCQ (see wiki) which is an improvement from SATA I.

    For mechanical HDDs last time I checked, some high-end HDDs' max. throughputs are near the limit of SATA I's.

    Recent SSDs on the market, like Intel X25-M clearly surpassed SATA I interface bandwidth.

    LOL but still those data above is only benchmark-wise, _ average_ user won't really notice the difference.

    Well, at least in effort of being future-proof? :D
     
  11. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    Yes, they are made in Japan. Sorry, I chose the wrong word. not "imported". So I think basically from Japan, the unit will be sent to the Asia-Pacific 'HQ' first and then distributed to other APAC countries. Just my guess :D

    Because SG is always referred for most high-level tech support and component availability in my country. And Windows 7 shipment program is shipped from HK. (either of them must be the so called 'HQ')
     
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    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Ah, I see, I was under the impression that Fujitsu's warranty was international for all 3 years.

    I haven't seen any mechanical HDDs near the limit (by my definition of near) just yet, especially 2.5" models, but still a fair bit to go yet. And yes, the newer SSDs have surpassed SATA I, but not all of them either. And unless he was going for an SSD upgrade, it might not be an issue that would come up at all. After all, you've noted that most users would not notice a difference. Hence my question, if it's simply for future-proofing purposes, by all means, but it wouldn't be a make or break question for most users regarding the purchase.

    As for NCQ, as far as I recall, that's a optional feature and not a required feature for a product to be labeled SATA II?
     
  13. RaZZNuts

    RaZZNuts Notebook Guru

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    NCQ is optional. You're correct. But I think this feature is not available on SATA I.

    I'd say I agree with most of your thoughts. :D

    Well, actually it's my fault that we went a bit off-topic by discussing SATAI/II :D but I believe the OP asked about SATA II support because he/she was planning to buy an HDD for his/her upcoming T4410, so I think he/she needs to decide whether to buy SATA I/II drive?
     
  14. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Possibly.

    Interesting discussion nonetheless.