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    CrystalView- good or bad?

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by davids, Jan 11, 2005.

  1. davids

    davids Notebook Consultant

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    There's no really close Fujitsu dealers around and I read great things about CV screens. I just asked a PortableOne CSR and asked how CV Fujitsu and P1 homebrew laptop screens compared.

    He reported not to like the glare and that the viewing was more awkward with CV and purported that the P1 laptops had a better screen in comparison. Although this might have been his personal opinion.

    The 'glare'/shine off of enhanced matte laptop screens strike me as particularly attractive. I love the finish of the dell 700m and hp dv1000 (despite the dv1000's horrific viewing angle :(, so disappointing). The averatec screen with no such 'enhancement' isn't as striking to me.

    So what are your opinions?

    BTW, no new P1 laptops until Q2 :(
     
  2. Andrew Baxter

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    I personally love the CrystalView screen and the Fujitsu S6231 has me won over with its screen (which is CrystalView). I also loved the 700m screen, I used that notebook for a month. So yeah, I agree with you that the glossy finish can be annoying with the reflection if you focus your eyes on that reflection, but overall the brightness and amazing contrast is a huge benefit.
     
  3. davids

    davids Notebook Consultant

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    this notebook purchasing stuff is difficult. but i do know on jan 18th, i'll force myself from sitting on my hands and get out and buy -something-.

    until then, another week of waiting.

    is CV noticably better/different than the finish on other screens, (eg. BrightView, etc)?

    the review just posted on the fujitsu s6xxx made me consider fujitsu heavily (which i wasn't doing at first). and the pictures of it made me drool.

    for most undergrads out on their own, $1000 - 2000 is certainly a non-trivial amount of money and similiarly i'd like to get the best product at its best value. the only reason i'm not leaping on the fuji at newegg is because of my alviso anxiety and the specs on that version are slightly under the bar of what i would like.

    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by abaxter

     
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  4. lazyace

    lazyace Notebook Guru

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    David, I've had various Dells, Hps, Twinheads, etc. The CV screen on the S6231 is amazingly bright and clear. You're right; the buying decision is at times difficult, but that's why you're here, right? That's why we're all here too. To weed out the crap! Being an educator, I use a notebook a lot. I have no axes to grind with anyone. I would recommend the S6231 to anyone who desires quality materials and workmanship, light weight (this thing is like a feather after lugging a Dell I8000 around). It's loaded with useful features and can be had at a reasonable price. There's always going to be that "next generation" coming up, especially in electronics, but sometimes, after careful consideration and recommendation, you just have to jump down off that fence and make a move. You will not regret it, I assure you.

    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by davids

     
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  5. SkiBunny

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by davids

     
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  6. RaNDoMMAI

    RaNDoMMAI Notebook Consultant

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    i have to disagree with skibunny

    I think the screen is one of the most important things about a LCD, that why I spent close to a 1000 bucks for a Dell 2001Fp a while ago. You spend hours looking at this notebook day after day, why would you want something that looks generic? Yes build quality is important, but are people really going to spend 1000+ to toss their notebook around? I really hope not.
    It is not like the Fujitsu is that much less in build quality then the IBM. It is not like it is made of all plastic like Compaq/HP notebooks are.

    IMO, the order of importance is
    1. portability
    2. screen
    3. battery life
    4. build quality
    5. performance
    6. price

    Performance is not important to me as I will only use it for papers and watching anime, and price is not that important as prices will drop in time. Build quality is not even that important to me because I take care of all my things very well.

    ~RaNDoM
     
  7. t3x

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    Crystalview = Amazing [ :eek:)]
     
  8. SkiBunny

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    Ok, but my rankings would be:

    1. Reliability
    2. Reliablilty
    3. Reliability
    4. Build quality
    5. Build quality
    6. Build quality
    7. Performance and HD size/speed
    8. Budget/price
    9. Battery
    10. Portability
    11. Screen size/resolution
    12. Screen quality (every LCD i've seen is excellent for my purposes)

    Without topnotch reliablity and build quality, your notebook isn't really portable (ever notice how airport security tosses around your notebook?), and it may well wind up in the shop costing you time & money just when you really need it most!
     
  9. Clearday

    Clearday Notebook Evangelist

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    you can trust all Fujitsu goods.It s enough reliable,stable,build quality and more...


    crystal view=amazing screen and I do not decide which one is the first Xbrite or Crystal View...I ve heard LG has an other option called "xdengine"

    How long wil you say, "I will conquer the whole world
    and fill with myself"?
    Even if the snow covered the world completely,
    the sun could melt it with a glance.
    A single spark of God's mercy
    can turn poison into springwater.
    Where there is doubt,
    He establishes certainty.
    -Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi (1207-1273)
     
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  10. RukRem

    RukRem Notebook Enthusiast

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    the resolution on that puny 13 (6231) inch screen is not very productive....
    side by side (i have both the 6231 and the ibm t42 right next to eachother now) the ibm screen looks better, easier to read better color saturation and much better video perfomance (with my 128 MB video card), something 6231 dreams about).... try and run a decent game on the fuji or render some video...
     
  11. SkiBunny

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    Yeah but nobody can read anything on your screen (except maybe you)... text/fonts/icons are literally half the size compared to the other. You probably have your nose pressed right up against the screen to read this [ :D]
     
  12. Andrew Baxter

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    RukRem voices one out of two of my main issues for not making the S6231 my main laptop. The resolution is too low for the S6231, I can't see enough, when programming the more code you see the better and when surfing the web you of course want to see as much as possible within a given area (well, within reason so that text is still big enough to read comfortably!). I can see much, much more on my ThinkPad T40 SXGA screen.

    The other thing I miss on an S6231 is a pointing stick -- but alas, very few notebooks offer this outside of IBM ThinkPads.
     
  13. SkiBunny

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    RukRem actually magnifies/increases his text, so i think that mostly counters the advantage of the higher resolution as far as programming is concerned. Honest, I dont know how you can type/work at 1400x1050 on 14" (I tried yesterday and went YUK!)... but my external 17" LCD is great for that resolution. Yes the more code you see, the better, but my point is that you do have to be able to "see" it [ :D]

    But yes, having tried using a touch pad for the first time lately, I definitely prefer the old pointing stick too.(if it doesn't wander). So why did dell, for example, drop the pointing stick from its 8500 on the 8600?
     
  14. RukRem

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    I actually increase the text only on programs that need it. For example increasing the text size to up one from normal on IE 6.0 makes the text comfortable to read. On word ill increase the magnification to 110 maybe 125. Still smaller than if I was using 1280x1024, but still not too small to read. You are still getting the advantages of the bigger screen and if more room is needed for a program, all you have to do is adjust. All the while your eyes are treated to a visually better experience. This wouldnt work on the 14" T42 because the resolution does not got that high. But on the 15", it is perfect. Don't knock it until you try it... You'll be suprosed what your eyed can read, albeit a minor adjustment period.
     
  15. RaNDoMMAI

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    The S6231 is not made to do real code work or play games, i got one because i want something light i can take to school and watch anime on or type up a paper. i dont need super high resolution or a video card to do that.

    Plus, why would i want to game on a laptop when i have a freaking loaded SN95G shuttle with a NEC 2111FE?

    seriously, i think it is crazy when people try to replace desktops with laptops.

    i personally think the IBM thinkpad screen is horrible(i have many friends who have them). it is way to dull for this day and age, very much like a ibook or powerbook. that is the main reason i didnt get one.

    Real work goes to my Dell 2001Fp

    gaming to the NEC 2111FE

    and traveling for the S6231

    21" 1600x1200 is the best, i couldnt imagine not working/playing on this

    ~RaNDoM
     
  16. elmonty

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    I'm considering a Fujitsu E8010. I've been recently researching some Gateways and I've discovered their "UltraBright" screen looks like a mirror and reflects everything behind it. Is Fujitsu's CrystalView the same?
     
  17. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    They are reflective, yes.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  18. elmonty

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    Well, there's another one knocked off my list.
     
  19. Sensei

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    Crystal view are not reflective if there is a non-black background. Otherwise, it looks great.