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    Fujitsu P2120 looks excellent....accept

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by NBC, Feb 21, 2004.

  1. NBC

    NBC Notebook Guru

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    to me anyway...

    I was at Fry's comparing the P5020 to P2120 (no P1120 stocked).

    First: the screen is terrific....it has SO much real estate....more than the 5020 because it is SXGA (vs. 5020 XGA) AND you can set 1200 x 1600! (vs. ~1080 x 1280 on 5020). Its so roomy for windows you get Lost in there!. Im in love with the screen, what can I say? A good screen is very important to me, after all you look at it all day.

    Second: it just 'feels' better in my hands. Its more dimensionally stable. Meaning I can lift it by the corner of the handrest or the corner of the screen and there is no flex, and no worries. It feels more solid than the 5020. The 5020 doenst give me that same feeling. Big plus. Its also slightly smaller than the 5020 (wow).

    Wish it had a touchpad, but the pointer mouse is the most accurate Ive used. I could live with that.

    The 'only thing' is the Crusoe processor. I havent read up that much on it, but I assume it is similar to the Mobile Pentium/Centrino.

    I mainly use pc for large Word docs (eg. up to 100pg) embedded with scans (Im writing a book), Outlook, short Excel files, listening to streaming mp3, and lots of websurfing. Thats it. No gaming whatsoever, but I would like to watch DVD's in good manner (not high priority though).

    Right now, Im running (ie. limping) on a 1999 500Hz Celeron HP desktop, so maybe it wouldn't be so bad? I like quick computers and hate lag and getting bogged down like I do with my present desktop (I think it has bugs too), but as long as it runs the types of apps I run with normal/good response times I am fine. Doesnt need to be blazingly fast. So what do you guys think about this processor for my needs? Will it keep me happy for a few years?

    I saw the last P2120 at Fry's for $1300, but its a display model (with mfg warranty) and so I dont feel so comofortable buying that. They said its a discontinued model. Ive included a list of delaers that came up on google....anybody dealt with them?

    http://www.netcentris.net/56080.aspx
    http://www.gogocity.com/product_details.asp?dept_id=40010&pf_id=CO02NB0006
    http://store.yahoo.com/digiden-store/fujlifp2.html


    Unfortunately, price is about same as 5020 with Mobile Pentium: is there much difference though?

    Too bad 5020 doenst have a better screen and isnt built like the P1120. The P1120 has a few limitations (eg. mainly the processor I guess), but overall this could be a great "righthand man" for me. (totally mobile desktop relpacement for me actually).

    What do you guys think?

    http://www.fujitsupc.com/www/products_notebooks.shtml?products/notebooks/tech_specs/p2000_fall02_ts


    Thanks!
    Neil
     
  2. seamus

    seamus Notebook Enthusiast

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    according to fujitsu they have the same internal and external resolution... and the p2000 has 8mg dedicated video while the p5000 has 64meg shared.

    the p5000 is going to cost more, but its not a step backward. usually manuf'rs upgrade their units in a series. p1000, p2000, p5000.

    the p5000 is the latest with the newest chipset and better graphics capablity. why wouldn't you just buy the newest technology?
     
  3. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    Too bad the 5020 doesn't have a better screen? I think it's one of the best I've ever used. It's high res too, 1280 x 768. I'm not sure how you can find one in a package this size that's much better. As for the Crusoe processor, there's a reason why no one uses it in notebooks. It had a home in Tablets for a little while, but that run is ending too. The chipset is fine for some tasks, but it's just not a good fit for demanding applications.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  4. NBC

    NBC Notebook Guru

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    Seamus: how does internal and external resolution work? What exactly does that refer to? At Fry's I could not set the 5020 past 1280 x 768, whereas the 2120 could do 1200 x 1600. Please explain the why if possible..

    Brian: if you read on the Transmeta discussion forum site, there is a huge ongoing 11pg thread about Transmeta, and its market share woes. I didnt finish it yet, but there is a lot of information in there and it is very interesting.

    PS: Brian, on the 'Hardware' forum, I posted a question about recording video from minicams onto HD's. It would be great if you, or someone knoweldgeble you know could post some tips for my question

    :) aNaLoG sMiLeY

    Thanks!
    Neil
     
  5. seamus

    seamus Notebook Enthusiast

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    you should take a look at the fujitsu website for the tech specs on both these units. i think you'll get a much better picture of how these models differ.

    anyway... internal resolution is what the lcd can display. external resolution is what the graphics card can do when plugged into a monitor or projector.

    and... there seems to be a big differnce between the pentium m and the crusoe chips. i dont know about benchmarks, but i believe the performance (and battery life) is much enhanced.

    regards, seamus.
     
  6. NBC

    NBC Notebook Guru

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    Hi Seamus,

    Thanks for the word on the differnce between internal and exxternal. Yes, I have been comparing the detailed spec sheets on both.

    The battery life of the 2120 with and without various battery options is listed as being very* long, and I had this verified by an IT Manager who uses them. Actually, he offered to sell me one since he is replacing them with 5020. He said the only* reason is because they do certain kinds of programming and found the Cruseo chip not quite sufficient for their needs. However, he said it should be sufficient for my needs of 100 page word docs, emails, and web.

    I dont know---the only thing Im concerned about is the power of the chip, in the long haul. 512MB option is the maximum. I dont want to get bogged down later. Butut if its a good price, I can live with that.

    Neil