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    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by NYYankeeGirl, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. NYYankeeGirl

    NYYankeeGirl Notebook Geek

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    Hey, I'm going to get a S Series Fujitsu notebook for when I start college this fall.

    My question what is the difference between 802.11b/g and 802.11 a+b/g?

    I'm deciding between the S6210 and S7010D...

    Thanks.
     
  2. Run1track

    Run1track Notebook Deity

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    One supports the "a" wirelss standard in addition to the "b" and "g" standards.

    "g" is the fastest, followed by "b", and lastly "a"
    I do not think "a" is really used much anymore.

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  3. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    I was about to post the same...Freeman beat me by a few seconds. Anyway, you really don't need a unless you know of networks that support it. There also tends to be less interference in that band. But even though you don't need it, if the option is available and it's not more than a few bucks, I'd toss it in.

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  4. NYYankeeGirl

    NYYankeeGirl Notebook Geek

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    I know next to nothing about wireless internet. This is going to be my first laptop. Would it really affect me if I just got 802.11b/g? I'm going to to be in NYC (NYU) if that means anything.

    I would rather have the S6210 because of the "Ultra-bright 13.3" Crystal View XGA display"... but does any of this really make a difference?

     
  5. freeman

    freeman Notebook Deity

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    Actually, the 802.11a is faster than b, it's running at 54mbps, just like 802.11g, but at different frequency.
    802.11a - 54mbps@5Ghz freq
    802.11b - [email protected] freq
    802.11g - [email protected] freq
    The "a" came out first, but not very popular due to its higher price, so it's mostly use by big corporate and people who very need the wireless. And it's quite reliable.
    The "b" come out later to address the high price issue, so it's cheap and slower. at the same time , it cause some problem. Why? because, it's running at the same frequency as many cordless phone(not your cellphone). That's why some people complain, because every time they pickup their phone they lose the wifi connection.
    The "g" come out last to address the speed issue on the "b", and therefore it's cheap also. because of the similarity on the "b" and "g", so it share the same effect "b" have. Therefore "g" have a lot more interference than "a" and cannot be running as fast as "a".

    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Run1track

     
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  6. NYYankeeGirl

    NYYankeeGirl Notebook Geek

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    Alright, cool.. thanks guys [ ;)]

    I'm psyched.. I'm going to be ordering from portableone..

    1gb ram... 60 gigs 7200 rpm... 1.6 ghz centrino ahhh.

    and I'm apparently getting an extra year out of my 3 year warranty since I'll be using AMEX to get it.

    This is going to be sooo much better than the p.o.s. desktop I currently am on (PII 300mhz upgraded 128mb RAM 30 gig) [ :D]

     
  7. Run1track

    Run1track Notebook Deity

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    And all this time I though 802.11a was the slowest...

    Hey NYYankieGirl, our configurations are very similar, and I think you will be very happy with your machine [ :)].
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  8. Brian

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    No you absolutely do not need a then. As for the CrystalView, it's widely regarded as the best notebook display out there.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  9. freeman

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    [ :D][ :D], I'll through you in a special note.
    I you live in a condo/apartment, where you have bunch of wall. All you neighbors use cordless phone and wifi. you can get the b/g, keep replacing them and curse your wifi/neighbors every time your connection drop, or get the "a" and laugh everytime one of your neighbor yelling at eachother.

    here is an article on the net, http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wireless80211/a/aa80211standard.htm searched via google w/ keywords 802.11a 802.11b 802.11g comparison. it basically say the same thing as I just describe.

    PS: the new standard 802.11n is coming out w/ 108mbps throughput.
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Run1track

     
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  10. freeman

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    Brian, if you think this info is useful, put a superglue on it and/or move it to Hardware forum.

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  11. Run1track

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Brian

     
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  12. Dr. Bailey

    Dr. Bailey Notebook Enthusiast

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    Run1Track,

    How are the reflections (if you sit in a room with a fluorescent light behind you, do you see it in the screen?). How well does it work outside in the sun, is it any better than a regular laptop screen, is there glare when outside?

    Thanks for helping out the rest of us still deciding![:I]

    Marianne
     
  13. Run1track

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    Dr. Bailey

    I have had no troubles with glare yet. If I sit under a light, and tilt the laptop up (to an unuseable and unreasonable level), I can catch the light as a reflection.

    Maybe it is just the layout of my home seating and the lights above, but for me, everywhere that I have used the laptop I have had no glare at all.

    I have not used it outside yet, and plus, it has been cloudy here the last few days.

    The only other laptop I have ever used was an Apple iBook from a few years ago. This Fujitsu CV screen is so bright (at the highest setting) that I set it at four (out of eight) for the brightness level, and then it appears as a typical laptop screen.

    I hope this helps you out. I have absolutely no complaints with the S6210 as of yet, and hope that I never do. If you have anymore questions, let me hear 'em [ :)].

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  14. Packrat

    Packrat Notebook Consultant

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    the glare is almost exactly like a crt monitor. Any light like a lamp or sunlight coming through a window causes this. You can see the lamp almost like you are looking in a mirror. As long as there is no light source behind you you don;t get a glare, of course it is hard to control what is behind you with a portable device. But again it is no different than a crt.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Packrat

     
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  16. noahsark

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    I have an n5010 with the crystal view screen. I do get a good view of the overhead hanging lights in my cubicle, but it doesn't bother me, as I am not focusing on seeing the lights. I also was using it in a shaded seat at an outdoor stadium the other day to entertain my children with a movie while my sister was graduating. The screen was quite dim and the contrast was poor, even on max brightness. Not at all like indoors.
     
  17. Run1track

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    When the sun comes out, i will give it a try.
    It is so bright indoors, that i would think it would work good outdoors.
    We will see.

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  18. Mr. Snazz

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    I picked up a Lifebook C2310 about a month ago. Never used it outside until this weekend. When I did, I was totally floored. The display looks great indoors, but outdoors its totally readable. It has a sort of warm yellowness kinda like some of the transflective iPaq models. With brightness on the lowest setting, its readable, with it on high, its better than some laptops are indoors.

    I know this isn't an S series, but it is a Crystalview display, so I figured it would be relevant :) I absolutely love this laptop, and the outdoor display quality was a very unexpected bonus.