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    S7011 news

    Discussion in 'Fujitsu' started by Flyboy, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Does anyone know what the differences between the S7011 and S7010 will be when it comes to the US?

    Also why are people so much happier (or at least voicing their oppinion) with the S6231...I read a review from Pcmag that gave the S7010 a middle to poor score does this still hold true with the new S7011 and is this why people are buying the S6231?

    Thanks,
    Flyboy
     
  2. aamsel

    aamsel Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, several factors:
    1.) My understanding is that the keyboard is better and has less sag on the S6231.

    2.) (This is just a guess on my part)
    In between the poor review of the S7000 series in PC Mag and the good review of the S6200 series, Fujitsu started doing something they had not previously done much of...they are advertising in PC Magazine!!! Not that they had never advertised before, but they did very little. All of a sudden they are running FULL PAGE ADS in every single issue! This could be wrong, but my guess is that, by doing this, they were trying to buy better reviews.

    Andrew
    Austin, TX


     
  3. qwester

    qwester Notebook Virtuoso

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    exactly my thought. Having never used or seen an S7, I see no reason why the S6 is sooo much more popular especially after the S7 got CV screens. + the S7 equiped with 1.8G CPU has almost the same price as the S6 with 1.6G CPU.

    I am seriously considering to give the new S7 series a try when they get here, since I don't really care for the minor dimension and weight difference.

    [?]Does anyone have reasons why an S6 would still be a better option???
     
  4. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Qwester, That is what I am thinking too. I would rather have the 14 inch CV screen and pointing stick + finger print reader, but I hesitate because so many people seem to think the S6231 is great.

    Probably the review from PC Mag is just not too represenative of the S7010. Hopfully the S7011 will be even better, but does anyone know the differance out there??? If anyone has seen thses please give your feedback [ :)].

    I really want to get the S7010 or S7011 if it is better or compariable to the S6231.

    I had a ACER Ferrari 2800 and I am trying to get my money back after this model has not worked correctly (crashing at anypoint for no reason[V]) since I got it 4 months ago. Also the ACER did not feel sturdy ... the plastic felt cheap I am sad to say. So I hope to not be dissapointed with the build quality in the Fujitsu.

    -Flyboy
     
  5. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Aamsel,

    Which other magazines did not like the S7000 and why? If no changes are made between the two machines (S6231 and S7010) you think the S6231 is the one to go with, because of the keyboard and ventilation?

    Is the loss in screen size from the 14.1 inch to 13.3 not that big of a deal to chose the S7010 over the S6231?

    Really can't wait to hear what is going to happen with the S7011[ :p]
    -Flyboy
     
  6. aamsel

    aamsel Notebook Evangelist

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    Well...
    I have seen several of the Fujitsu's at FRY's, and, although they don't at all feel cheap, I would have to say that at least the top cover is a bit flimsy (extremely bendable). That doesn't mean that you would have any issues with it. My observation is based on about 10 minutes of looking at it.
    I did not find the P series flimsy at all. Being smaller, the lid is much less pliable.

    Keep in mind that the S6231 keyboard is more solid than any S7000 series keyboard that I have seen. I think that improvements were made in it. My guess is that the new cooling put in the S6231 is the change for the S7000 series as well. Not sure.

    Andrew
    Austin, TX
     
  7. aamsel

    aamsel Notebook Evangelist

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    On the other hand, keep in mind that PC Mag is not the only magazine that didn't like the S7000 series. I am not sure if they are all weighted to favor their advertisers, but that would be a good guess.

    Andrew
    Austin, TX

    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Flyboy

     
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  8. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    Most of the issues with the S7 were related to the keyboard. Fujitsu made a few changes though and it's now much better. With the newly added CV screen, both are solid models, just depends on screen size and a few other smaller features.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  9. RaNDoMMAI

    RaNDoMMAI Notebook Consultant

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    whoa i am VERy confused now!!

    fujitsu makes another S series? 7000vs6000. and the 7000 is bigger plus it comes with a stick!!

    also, how comes the S7000D has a option to have a screen with crystal view but SXGA for 50 bucks more? isnt crystal view totally awesome?

    and the S7000 is bigger and only weigh .3 onces more??? thats awesome?

    anyone like to clear things up for me?

    TIA
    ~RaNDoM
     
  10. aamsel

    aamsel Notebook Evangelist

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    It was Laptop Magazine and Mobile Computing.
    Don't know the issue numbers, besides, it is just a mag review, no big deal. Your opinion is just as valid as theirs.

    As was pointed out, the keyboard was the major negative with the S7xxx and it is improved on the S62xx series.

    Andrew
    Austin, TX

    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Flyboy

     
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  11. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Thanks aamsel,
    I have one more question I am not sure if I understood you correct.

    So the keyboard issue with the S7010 are fixed now?

    Brian seemed to say that it was but reading your post you seem to think that it is only corrected on the S6231...thanks again for answering my many questions.

    Still no one out there has any news on the S7011[?]????[V]

     
  12. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Here is some info I was able to dig up on the S7010 vs. S7011!

    In short "The LifeBook S7011 is packed with multimedia features making it perfect for work and play while the S7010 offers high-end functionality for corporate professionals."

    Check out the link for more info.

    http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=1485&s=1

    -Flyboy
     
  13. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    There were initial concerns about the keyboard in the S7, but when I talked to Fujitsu about that, they assured me the review was based on a pre-production unit and the issue was resolved.

    Now that they offer the CV screen in the S7, it's a really nice choice.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  14. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    Brian,

    Do you have any news as to when or if the S7011 will be out in the US?

    I am glad to hear that the problem with the keyboard was a pre-production model and that might explain the poor review from PC Mag.

    -Flyboy
     
  15. Flyboy

    Flyboy Notebook Guru

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    I guess nothing except to hear more people liking it and more reviewers giving it high marks. I just have not held one in my own hands thus even though I would like the screen size of the S7010 better, I have seen in person the S6231 and liked it a lot and am leaning towards it just because so many people are getting it.

    Also the new S7011 looks nice in all black!![8D]

    -Flyboy
     
  16. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    Am I missing something? What do you want from the 7011 that the US version of teh 7010 doesn't have?

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  17. aamsel

    aamsel Notebook Evangelist

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    Who is selling the S7011 now???

    Andrew
    Austin, TX
     
  18. Flyboy

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    I do not think that anyone is selling the S7011 yet in the US. But they are Asia.

    -Flyboy
     
  19. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    In talking with my contacts, the 7011 is the Asian version of our 7010. There will not be a release of the 7011 in the US and it has not feature set improvements.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  20. qwester

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Brian
    In talking with my contacts, the 7011 is the Asian version of our 7010. There will not be a release of the 7011 in the US and it has not feature set improvements.
    <hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>
    No improvements other than S-Video out (which I really need [:(]) and Flash memory drive. That's why I am hoping that either the US S7010 will get these features or the S7011 will hop over the Pacific [:D]. Anyway I don't have the cash to get any laptop now [V], so maybe when I do in about a month something will have changed! Or I'll have to go with the S6.
    But the only true improvement from old to new US S7010 OR S7010 to S7011 in Asia is the CV screen or what ever they call it in the Asia market (I don't really care for marketing names!)
     
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  21. lyinkz

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    I still dont understand why there are so many bad reviews of the s7000 though... it seriously seems like a better machine to get over the s6000 in terms of value. For someone willing to sacrifice the size, you can get a fingerprint reader, a stick, and everything else the s6000 offers for the same price? Why don't more people go with this machine?
     
  22. zombi

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    well, i was a second away from buying a S7000D, but now i'm going with the smaller P7000D. i looked at the S6000 too and agree that the S7000 is a better value w/ more to offer. i say go for it if you like it better too. if you're searching for reasons to like something, it's a bad start :)
     
  23. Brian

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    The 6 is smaller and a little lighter and until recently, the 7 didn't offer CrystalView. The stick isn't that great either, which is an issue.

    Editor in Chief http://www.bargainPDA.com and http://www.SPOTstop.com
     
  24. bahman

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    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction to this link Brian

    With the s7011 another point to note is that Bluetooth is not even an option :(