What is the difference S6000 vs S2000???

What is the difference between the LifeBook® S6000 Notebook and the LifeBook® S2000 Notebook? I know the Processor type differs but what else is different and which one is the best? Is one faster then the other and are each of them meant for different tasks?

 

I had the same problem and he pretty much solved it for me.

 

Take a look at the S2110 review that I did. I compared it to the S6231 which is the predecessor to the S6240.

The S6240 will be intially faster, but the S2110 is more future proof since it has a 64 bit processor, so it could end up being faster once 64 bit programs come out.

The S2110 has a slightly better graphics chipset (but still not good enough to play heavy 3d games)

Based on my experiences now, I think I would go for the S2110 series.

 

how much faster are we talking about??? PM750(1.86GHz) vs a 1.6 AMD 64bit.

Also which product is newer... the S2110 or the S6240?

Is Microsofts new OS 64bit or both?

 

The S2000 is newer, but there's little difference other than the CPU. Vista will come in several flavors, including both 64 and 32 bit. The review has more comparisons between the two.

 

Been searching for a laptop for about a year, Fujitsu S6231 caught my eye last December and have been just putting together the money and keeping my eye on new releases for a year. Two weeks ago, I decided to go with the S2110 - it was tiny bit cheaper but not by much so the price shouldn't be the deciding factor. I've also did a lot of research between the Turion and the Centrino.

Differences:
S2110:
AMD Turion 64-Bit Processor
ATI Radeon Mobile X200 (Shared Memory)
Atheros Super AG Wireless LAN(802.11a/b/g)

S6240:
Intel Centrino 32-Bit Processor
Intel Integraded Graphics (Shared Memory)
Intel PRO/wireless Tri-band (802.11a+b/g)

 

Nesbo, I read your review in it's entirety and have a few questions about this line (and the previous one) of Fujitsu notebooks. I have been searching for an ultraportable/thin-and-light for quite some time now and have basically narrowed my search to the Dell 710m. However, there have been many recommendations for Fujitsu as the build quality is known to be stronger. My budget is ~$1400USD but I am willing to put in another $150-$200 if the machine of choice is above and beyond (well worth the price) it's competition.

Does this Fujitsu (the S2110) fall close to my budget? I am here in Canada and the S2110 is nowhere to be found on the Fujitsu website. Perhaps portableone.com* will ship it to Canada, i'm not sure.

Is this the smallest Fujitsu notebook computer? I understand there is one smaller but it is well out of my price range and has a much smaller keyboard.

When you speak of heat and noise, to what extent are these factors present? The Dell i710m is supposibly whisper quiet and little if not no heat is given off by this machine.

My tasks include MS Office apps, picture viewing, non-intense number crunching and another program or two which are yet to be determined. (However I am confident they will be no more intense than 3-D Studio Max for example).

Any feedback or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

 

...And another thing. More of a general question. I am here at the Fujitsu site and I believe they only have the Pentium M 6000 series. For the question though, will an upgraded HDD (from stock 4200rpm 40GB) to lets say a 60 or 80GB 5400rpm HDD add more heat and/or weight [somehow - never heard of weight changing though] other than adding to battery consumption? (The faster the HDD the more battery it uses, correct?) Likewise, an upgrade to a 60GB 7200rpm HDD...same question.

Also, just like upgrading RAM on any other laptop, will upgrading to 1GB from standard 512MB [on the Fujitsu] boost performance and speed and pick up the slack from the "slower" (in comparison to P M) AMD processor?

Thank You for taking the time to answer all of my questions [in advance].

 

Canada computers has the s2110 for sale... but i don't know if you should be buying from them considering their track record

The 7200rpm hd will be hotter then the defalt 4200rpm
Ram will of course boost performance

 

Canada computers? Some sort of on-line resaler? Well PortableOne seems to have a good track record so I might as well just go with them. And the prices seem to be the same as on the Fujitsu website. Except that I cannot see the S2110 on the Fujitsu Canada website, only the older 6000 series.

But on the US website and PortableOne, both machines are available. Although, I cannot find out details about the graphics (which integrated are used) for either machine. Maybe I over looked it.

But I would probably be able to ship from PortableOne and pay for the extra shipping I suppose.

 

I do think the S2110 should fall within your budget. To answer your other questions, it is not the smallest Fujitsu laptop, they do have a smaller ultraportable machine, but it is more expensive.

Upgrading the hard drive will not add weight. There will not be a siginifcant loss of battery life. I switched out my hard drives and the battery life is nearly identical.

I'm beginning to think that 1 GB of RAM should be the standard these days. You will see a better performance boost.

As far as heat/fan noise, the S2110 never really got hot, it just felt warmer than the S6231 that I currently own, but by no means was the heat uncomfortable. The fan does come on a bit more frequently but it was never "loud"

For what you want to do, the S2110 will run perfectly. And when programs start using the 64-bit processing, you should see even more effecient performance.

Hope this helps.

 

Yes, that most definately helps. Thank You again. A quick clarification though:

When you say there will not be significant loss of battery life when upgrading the hard drive, are you refering to both; an upgrade to 5400 and a 7200? What did you switch your hard drives to?

Where on the machine did it feel warmer and was this during basic applications, or more intense work? Would the room have to be absolutely silent in order to hear the fan running?

Regarding the graphics in the S2110 vs S6000 series, you mensioned the S2110 has up-to 128MB shared RAM whereas the 6000 series has a maximum of 64MB correct? I could not find anything regarding the graphics used in each of these machines on the Fujitsu website, if you can believe it.

How is battery life by the way? What is the average battery life-span? And I was reading about upgrades in battery but am not clear on that. What is standard (6 cell?) and what is an option? As the extended battery on the 710m goes on the back of that machine, where would a larger capacity battery be placed on the S2110? (Or would they be the same size, one higher quality than the other).

Thank You once again. I appreciate your input.

...the 6000 series is also available with the Pentium M as you are familiar with. This would give better battery life and emit less heat correct? (It seems to be available in the same color scheme as the S2110, however, your avatar shows it with a white keyboard. Interesting. Perhaps they simply changed the cosmetics)

 

I went from a 4200 rpm to 7200 rpm and battery life is nearly equal.

If I remember correctly, the bottom of the computer, mainly the left side felt warm. I was doing mostly basic applications, but sometimes would have multiple applications running.

No, I think I could still hear the fan even with stuff going on in the room. HOWEVER, I think I noticed it more because my s6231 hardly ever uses the fan. If I never owned the s6231 then I don't think the fan of the s2110 would have been hugely noticeable by me.

Keep in mind the S6231 that I own is a couple of years old now. That machine has up to 64 MB of video ram. The newer S6240 has up to 128 MB video ram and uses the newer Intel graphics.

The battery life of the S2110 was excellent. You can easily get 3-4 hours. 4+ hours if you turned wireless internet off. Now, the S6240 (remember, this is the newer model compared to my S6231) uses the newer Pentium M, which is known to be a bit more power hungry, so the battery life would be less and would produce a little bit more heat.

I don't believe you have the option to get an "extended" battery for either the S6000 series or the S2000 series. There is only one capacity battery offered, I believe.

 

I was under the impression that the s6231 that you used to compare against, was the same S6000 series notebook available for sale. I didn't look closely at the model number.

So both the s6240 and S2110 have up-to 128 MB of video ram? Which would be better for it, the S6240 with Intel or the S2110 (with ATi?) ?

I thought the Pentium Ms were made to produce LESS heat (appose to the AMD counterpart).

In conclusion, other than costing $200 more and running a Pentium M chip (appose to AMD), what does the S6240 offer (advantages) vs the S2110 or vise versa? Which would you recommend? (Something about DDR2 ram used on S6240 and not S2110? Correct me if i'm wrong but knowing details such as these would also be nice).

 

If the S2110 doesn't have Intel Centrino Mobile Technology, what does it use and how does this compare against Centrino machines?

 

I think the ATI chipset is better as far as performance goes. However, one thing I don't like about it (and this is just a personal preference), the user needs to adjust how much system RAM they want to dedicate for the graphics chipset thru the BIOS. Thus, if you set it at 128 MB, it will use that much system RAM regardless of the program being used, and to change the amount, you must go into the BIOS and do it yourself.

The Intel grahpics chipset automatically adjust graphics RAM based on the programs. However, I would still suggest the ATI graphics because it performs better.

The newer Pentium M chip/chipset have a higher front side bus and uses more power than the older Pentium M. Thus you get faster performance, but a little bit less battery life.

I think the main advantage of the S6240 is that it will run somewhat faster than the S2110.

Personally, I would go with the S2110. You get better battery life, and while it might run a tad bit slower then the S6240, it does have a 64bit processor which should technically increase performance in the future once 64 bit programs become more available. Personally, I don't think the S6240 has that much more of an advantage to be a few hundred dollars more.

Hope that helps

 

screen size: 6240 14", 2110 13.3" (ws?)

 

No, they both have 13.3" and no widescreen

 

The 14" notebook is S7010 and S7020, not S6240

 

my error. confused with s7000.

 

Yup. Well, IF they were the same price (and can done as so if sacrifices are made in other component departments), would you still go with the newer S2110? Do you know how much heat difference there would be between the two processors and can that heat difference be noted by the human touch or would it take a computer monitoring program to do so? (Perhaps how many degrees more?) And with the 64-bit processing you speak of, how will that benifit me in the future? (Present to 3 years down the road, and everything in between).

And one last thing, other than there being almost no difference between battery consumption when switching a 4200rpm HDD to a 7200rpm, how much HEAT difference was there? (And was this the area under the machine that you felt the heat? You didn't feel any warmth on the actual keyboard [or parts of] correct?)

Thanks Again.

 

Since I never used the S6240, I can't comment on how much heat that machine produces. I would suspect that both machine will produce roughly the same heat. I can't give you exact numbers though.

I did not feel warmth on the keyboard or palm rests...I think there was a minimally slight increase in heat when I switched hard drives. But the overall heat that I felt on the S2110 was generalized but a bit more so on the left side. Again, not enough to make it uncomfortable by any means.

As for 64 bit processing...I would say in the next 2-3 years you will start seeing programs being made to support 64 bit processing, especially once the new Windows OS comes out. There will still be 32 bit programs for a long time, but I believe you will have an advantage.

All in all, I think the S2110 series is what I would chose.

 

Interesting. Thanks again for the info. Well, I guess it can be summed as the S6000 has a P M Processor (As appose to the 2000's AMD), has Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 graphics (up to 128mb shared) and will run marginally faster and cooler than the 2000. However, the 2000 has a 64-bit AMD processor, making it advantages in the future, as well as supporting ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M graphics (up to 128mb chared)giving slightly more options to the user.

Food for thought.

 

depends I'm not too sure about graphic card but since they are alot scale down from the desktop graphic card I guess it will not make much of a different. Since I am using S6000. lolz I am playing AOE 3 with it.

 

Full graphics on and running smooth?

 

Problem is, I think many buyers of a laptopn today would expect to have sold theirs by then! Might help with re-sale value maybe...

 

hmm the problem is how smooth can it be... my friend uses a brand called NEC with the ATi moblity .. he said not very smooth also ... what it can do better is the resolution and colours presentation is nice as default.

But I'm not too sure does it support some of the hardware encoding. you must check it out. but never a less do consider the amd version but the main reason I brought the S6000 over S 2000 is because I using this notebook mainly for work offices, prgramming and video playback uses so it must be very stable.

ya getting either these 2 notebooks must upgrade the ram or else it is very slow ... I went to purchased another 1 gig ram man.

read this for the review for S2110 http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2569

by the way fujitsu japan do not have this 2 models in their lif book list ( if you all don't know lol )

it is called FMV biblo MG 50 lolz http://www.fmworld.net/product/hard/pcpm0508/biblo_loox/mg/method/index.html