[Computer idoit] Same CPU + Same GPU = Same/Similar gaming performance?

Hi! I basically know very little about computers so don't laugh if this question is too stupid

Recently the upcoming Lenovo Y580 really draws my attention because it offers i7 ivy bridge processors and Nvidia GTX 660m with a starting price of just $899. This seems a pretty good deal, becuz the 660m should be able to handle most of the games under 1080p.

However, what I am thinking about is that Lenovo has not been manufacturing any true "gaming" laptops, like Clevo/ MSI/ ASUS or even Alienware. So I wonder, although the spec of the y580 seems pretty good, will the gaming performance be somehow compromised? i.e. assume a Clevo laptop also provides the same CPU and GPU, will it perform better than the y580? (becasue of better cooling?)

I once heard that the Lenovo y570 can't make good/full use of the 555m.

Please help even though this seems stupid

 

The only way it will be compromised is if lenovo downclock the card, or put poor cooling that heats it up to much before throttling I believe. This could be also down to the power adaptor being to small in watt i.e. 120w adaptor on some laptops is to small likewise 90w adaptor.

Better cooling will make sure it doesn't slow down in games and keeps constant frames. When computers overheat they can play games 1/4 of the fps due to it being 90 degrees up in temp. If they keep playing it at high fps it will become dangerous hence throttling.

If you apply thermal paste to cpu and gpu and use something to provide extra cooling on your laptop then there should be no problem as some manufacturers like HP dv2/6000 series overheat so easily so applying thermal paste will help.

 

not a stupid question at all, in fact shows you understand how much cooling counts

even if the versions of 660m is the same, I would say Clevo will outperform Lenovo just because of a better cooling solution (and will definitely have a good head room for overclocking because of that), but I also suspect Lenovo and similar brands (mainstream) will put the full outblown gtx 660m in their laptops for < 1k bucks, just doesn't sound right..

 

There are some other factors that come into play as well. the Speed of the Ram is also important, both for the GPU and the system ram. Some version of the 660M may user slower GDDR, which can impact performance. The system's DDR3 may also be slower, contributing to an overall system speed decrease.

But really.. That Lenovo should be one killer rig for the money.. I don't see how you can lose at $899.

 

Provided the specs are the same and cooling is adequate, the same parts will perform the same in different packages. I have the predecessor to your Y580 and it runs a bit warm, but plays games just fine.

 

As others have said, some non gaming-class notebooks use a gimped version of a certain GPU - the clock speeds are low, the RAM bandwidth chokes the card's capability, etc. A 660m in a Clevo gaming rig will be capable of playing to its full potential because of proper cooling as well as being a full-speed version of the card. We won't know about the Lenovo one until they start shipping - it could be a full-speed 660m with good cooling or it could be a gimped 660m that performs 20% slower and overheats in a poorly-designed chassis. A wise consumer would probably wait until the first round hits shelves and get impressions from the first wave of buyers before buying yourself.

 

Well isn't Lenovo = Clevo, same company just rebranded. And MSI, but i'm not too sure about msi

 

Thx for all the replies =)
Btw, do you think the full version of 660m can handle most of the games out there under 1080p?

 

Nope. IBM owns Lenovo, and Clevo owns Sager, etc. MSI is it's own entity as well.

 

wait, I thought IBM sold their pc business and it's new name is Lenovo?

not as perfect, but a few specs nerfed down maybe

 

Lenovo is a Chinese electronics company that purchased IBM's PC division, and they've got nothing to do with Clevo. They're not a company that has historically produced many gaming laptops, so their cooling engineering might not be as good as Clevo's, but the machine will probably be thinner, lighter, and get better battery life, since they're more experienced with those aspects of PC design.

And yes, a full-speed 660m should be able to handle all current games at 1080p, probably at high to ultra settings for a lot of games and medium to high for the most resource-heavy.

 

Take as med to med-high settings for most games.

 

And you are correct. Lenovo bought out the IBM PC branch in 2010. I stand corrected too

 

Gah. This looks perfect for my gf, but I was just talking to a sales rep online, and he said if rumors say April, don't expect it till May considering the amount of info they've given him thus far. Where does the April projection come from?