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    [Exclusively for NBR] NVIDIA Kepler GK107 and Intel Ivy Bridge BENCHMARKS revealed by yknyong1!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by yknyong1, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Following the previous thread where the specifications of both Intel IVY Bridge and NVIDIA Kepler GK107 were revealed: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...idge-specs-revealed-yknyong1-56k-warning.html

    Use this thread for speculation of the new Kepler cores.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...0m-series-kepler-core-speculation-thread.html

    Brought to you by yknyong1
    Now for benchmarks - I will release one periodically, depending on several factors. I hope you guys will be thankful. (It wasn't easy to get hold of 20+ pictures BTW)

    What I want to see.
    1. Interest - People replying
    2. Feelings - Tell us what you feel about the performance.
    3. Analysis - Give us some comparisons and accompanying commentary.

    When I feel enough discussion has been made about the specific benchmark, the next will be released. I reserve the right to take some outstanding analysis and post as commentary for the OP. (Don't worry, I will credit you for that.)

    Now for the bench!

    Benchmark 1 - 3DMark06
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3
    Default settings at 1280x768 - The screen is only 1366x768 BTW



    Okay, now another picture of 3DMark06 programme information:




    3DMark06 does not even recognise Kepler chips, so anything online with 3DMark mentioning a new name is fake for sure.
     
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    Now for Benchmark 2 - Fritz Chess Benchmark 11
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3



    Also, try guessing what the NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M with the Intel Core i7-3612QM scores in 3DMark11. 3DMark11 benchmark will be released when someone guesses the correct score (Performance mode).
     
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    Now for Benchmark 3 - 3DMark11
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3

    Score: P1898

    Teaser


    Score


    Final picture


    What I feel is that finally GPU performance levels above GT 555M possible in Ultrabook form factor. That alone is a good reason to celebrate if you are looking for good graphics performance in 14" and below.
     
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    Reserved.....2
     
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    Reserved..... 3
     
  6. gamba66

    gamba66 Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting! Judging from the 3dmark 06 score its a tad bit stronger than the 555m, which gets scores between 9500 to 12k maximum..

    Will be very interesting to see at which level the 650m operates, it could be nearly as strong as the 560m Did you find the acer 17 inch with the 650m actually?

    Now did you run 3dmark 11 too though? Since 3dmark 06 only reflects the directx 9 capabilities

    Oh and thanks alot :)

    Very good that you included the temperatures too! The acer gets pretty hot indeed, now imagine running Furmark and prime 95 at the same time and then checking the temperatures, I could bet that it reaches atleast 90 degrees and maybe even throttles
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Can you pls post the full 3dmark06 result, perhaps a link to it? I'd like to see how well your 35W IVB i7-quad performs reflected by the CPU score.

    If you have a Series-6 Sandy Bridge system handy, would you be willing to swap in the CPU and tell us if it works?
     
  8. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Wish granted
     
  9. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Please swap both CPUs (put ivy bridge CPU in sandy bridge notebook and put the sandy bridge CPU in the ivy bridge notebook) :)
     
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    I don't own the system BTW- so not possible.
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    I could not find that 17 inch Acer. What I found was the Acer Aspire Timeline Ultra M3 with NVIDIA GT 640M instead.

    And the best thing? It's available for purchase

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...rchase-acer-aspire-timelineu-m3-released.html
     
  13. gamba66

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    Alright seems like the 640m is really on the 555m level, which is impressive!! OMG :)

    Now the leaked 650m from the samsung q470 do actually match up look at this

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    And now benchmark results from the DELL XPS 17 thread !

    Seems to be real then! The 650m is siginificantly stronger than the 555m then wow..
     
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    That's pretty beast. I think 3DMark11, however, will be a better indicator of performance. Also, being 28nm, maybe it will overclock well.
     
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    Stay tuned for more. With so many asking for 3DMark11, I think I should release that last. :D
     
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    Based on the DX9 performance, Kepler seems way better than Fermi. And with the turbo system that makes the GPU operate very cool when not needed, it may be a winner.
    But I will await the Vantage score before making a conclusion.
    Awesome work yknyong. Nice to have people like you doing this for us. :)

    Maybe if you still planning on going to the fair, maybe you can install one of the newer games and running the benchmarks they have.
     
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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    The reason why I don't want to say anything about location is due to the obvious fact that Acer flouted its NDA with Intel by displaying Ivy Bridge in a very public show. However, there were Acer employees looking over the laptops, so it was not easy.

    FYI

     
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    That the turbo boost enables cooler IDLE temperatuers is pretty clear(since it runs at lower clocks at idle), but the question is how it will behave at LOAD or even FULL LOAD.. It could ban the possibility to overclock the card and IF it behaves like Sandy Bridge CPUs, could cause Throttling or overheating (if its active for a longer time).. And I think the IDLE temperatures arent that important if you use optimus anyways, because when your not gaming, it stays on the HD 3000 or HD 4000

    So before praising this new technique, lets see how it proves in reality.. As you can see the Ivy Bridge cores are already arount 82 to 85 degrees, who knows how hot it gets at full load with prime 95/furmark and if it would throttle.. It will be interesting to find out if the turbo boost helps to keep the throttling away or have an even worse effect for it (since CPU + GPU both turbo boost in intensive games for example)
     
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    It looks like it's a decent discrete GPU but how can the DDR3+128bits combo not drastically nerf its potential ? The 555M-128bits was already severely hampered by its low bandwidth compared to the 192bits version.

    Therefore due to dubious tradeoffs it ends up being just "good" while it would have been great with a wider bus or faster RAM I think.

    I thought by now nvidia would have realized that 128bits buses and DDR3 were ok for chips that were barely half as fast and would have found a good compromise.
     
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    Especially GDDR5 RAM yes.. But its anyways a good improvement, I mean the 640m is about 50% faster than the 540m, and reaches therefore 555m Level. The 650m is about 10% to 15% faster than the 555m if you compare GPU scores of 3dmark 06.. So thats pretty impressive, for a midrange or mainstream GPU! Im actually astonished that its so much faster and kepler

    Remember, this will be the new standard after the 540m, so there will be a bunch of notebooks with these discrete GPUs.. Only very few laptops had the power of the 555m, now its basically the new standard.. Even some Ultrabooks (most of them atleast 14 inch) have this discrete GPU.. And the clevo 11.6 has the 650m for sure, so its damn powerful, could you imagine a 11.6 inch notebook half a year ago with a stronger card than the 555m (even stronger than the 192-bit 555m)?
     
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    I guess that GT 640M and GT 650M will be mostly in notebooks featuring 1366x768 display like this one. 128 bit memory bus is alright for lower resolution gaming. But like you say, I imagine they will suffer in 1080p.

    It`s kinda interesting to see the 555M as the low end for Keplers though :)
     
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    Maybe Nvidia made their memory controller more efficient or something.
     
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    soo what type of performance is there to expect in 13-14in notebooks? I need to get a laptop for college so it has to be small but I would like to be able to play games decently well
     
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    From the benches, 555m level, which is quite respectable in a small notebook.
     
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    GT 640M perform like the fastest GT 555M

    Dell XPS 17 / i7-2720QM / 8 GB RAM /
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    Remember these benchmarks are at 1280x768, not a very large resolution and less than the standard 1280x1024.

    Memory bandwidth will kick in at higher resolutions.
     
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    Nah, I think its fine for the 1366x768 and 900p notebooks its going inside anway. You can forget about 1080p gaming though since that res literally chokes the memory bus (or the GPU is too weak, not shure) :p

    Here are some comparisons. Alienware M14x got the 192 bit with DDR3, Mythlogic got the 128 bit with DDR3. Neglible difference at 1366x768, around 6% average difference at 900p. But the difference between 128 and 192 bit starts to show there like you say.

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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4649/mythlogic-pollux-1400-clevos-w150hr-tested/4
     
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    The Quad 35w seems warm to me
     
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    Hmm I knew it - the benchmarks were taken at the Singapore IT show. Judging by the computer yknyong1 is talking about, I know where to find it also :rolleyes: But how did you get the benchmarks installed with so many Acer employees around?
     
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    Now show him whos the man in this forum too456. Go install a game and run the ingame benchmark and return back to this forum. And the IGP HD 4000 Vantage score is also highly needed. Perhaps they have a computer with GT 650M too?

    :D
     
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    I tell you first. It is not easy in reality. You can always find it, but whether you can use it for long is another thing all together.
     
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    Yeah, and big kudos to you again for doing this for us yknyong.

    I think you two should meet and make up a team. One start asking all sorts of question to keep the Acer staff occupied, while the other one gather data. :D

    The Acer have Optimus right? Would love to see some Vantage of that Ivy IGP. And Vantage of the GT card
     
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    Okay, now another picture of 3DMark06 programme information:




    3DMark06 does not even recognise Kepler chips, so anything online with 3DMark mentioning a new name is fake for sure.
     
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    Now for Benchmark 2 - Fritz Chess Benchmark 11
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3



    Also, try guessing what the NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M with the Intel Core i7-3612QM scores in 3DMark11. 3DMark11 benchmark will be released when someone guesses the correct score (Performance mode).
     
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    1700-1800?
     
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    Specific number dude. As long as someone gets it, I will release the bench. :D

    Let the guessing begin! :p
     
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    Refraining from posting anything further in this thread.. This is getting ridiculous..
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    3dmark11 1900?? thanks yknyong1!
     
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    Stop changing the numbers! :D
     
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    Specific...? I appreciate you posting the benches but you're acting like you're getting paid for every post or something. :eek:

    But seeing as how you went though all the trouble of getting the benchmarks I guess the least I can do is humor you. 1657?
     
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    graz`zt's edited guess is very near :eek:
     
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    Too high or too low? 1912?
     
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    hint: P1xx8

    I'm editing the pictures now for posting soon... :D
     
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    1908. Definitely.
     
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    Now for Benchmark 3 - 3DMark11
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3

    Score: P1xx8

    Teaser
     
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    Which model of the V3 are you testing? The 14" or 15' one? Also, 1898..?
     
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    It's the 14.0" V3. P1898 it is. Uploading now.
     
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    Now for Benchmark 3 - 3DMark11
    for Acer Aspire V3
    Intel Core i7-3612QM 35W 2.10GHz
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 640M 2GB DDR3

    Score: P1898

    Teaser


    Score


    Some analysis is appreciated! :D
     
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    Whats the graphics score in 3dmark11? Seems like a nice little GPU so far, a good bump in the 600m series.

    I hope they don't end up with several silly 555m versions, and focus on specificl versions this time around.
     
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