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    (UPDATED 5/2/07 w/ More Problems) Please help: Oblivion randomly crashing...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Greg, Apr 21, 2007.

  1. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Vista, Cat7.2, and Oblivion with it updated to 1.2.

    Every once in a while, I'll open a door...and the game crashes. It's rather annoying...does anyone know what to do?
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I had that happen before, I tried many things, but it turned out a a fresh install of windows or a defrag is best BEFORE you install Oblivion.

    I have tested this theory on many computers [newly (re)installed and currently being used ons], the majority of the results were the newly re-installed OS [full format, not quick] PCs got the best stability.

    Installing Oblivion on the systems that have not re-installed (re-formatted) seemed to have about a 50% success rate for not crashing.
     
  3. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    describe the crash?

    I get a black screen crash but when i alt tab and then go back the screen is normal again.
     
  4. Greg

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    It just...exits. Vista says the program stopped responding.
     
  5. radigast

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    Please tell us what, if any, mods you have installed. Also, have you done any editing to your oblivion.ini file?
     
  6. Willystylz

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    Mine rarely crashes......mostly i have a problem with a part of a ms window flashing up for a few secs on the right side of the screen???
     
  7. imhungry29

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    mine runs oblivion fine but it does the exact same thing in dark messiah. i defragged and it seems to have gone away for now but... u never know.
     
  8. linh1987

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    Maybe there's something to do with the new 1.2 beta patch. Since I installed it, it just randomly crashing once for a while especially when I try to fast travel :(. Gotta make a reinstall tomorrow :)
     
  9. IIIM3

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    As Said before, I had this problem with Windows XP and i just needed to reinstall (put your saved game files of a flash stick) And of coarse a nice defrag!
     
  10. Gator

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    Try it in XP compatibility mode, that's all I can think of. It may be a GPU driver issue with Vista.
     
  11. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've updated the drivers, I'm running in XP SP2 mode, and the mod list is basically all the official downloadable content plus natural weather and one of the leveling mods.

    But I found this, can anyone confirm this has happened to them? Any chance this is why I'm crashing?
    I should note that I've had this printer longer than Oblivion, and I've never had a problem up until now... :(
     
  12. PJPeter

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    I had crashes that started yesterday resulting from some bound items, after they expire at random times the game would just crash. Sometimes when I went to save, sometimes when I was firing an arrow etc... I found the only solution was to go back to before the bound item expired and unbind it. There are a bunch of patches and things...and Shivering Isles really messes with things with its Reference Bug where you start losing all new objects on load after only a few hours of playing.

    I don't have that problem though, outside of ALT+TAB freezes and the bound item bug...

    Cat
     
  13. Thibault

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    I just got Oblivion for my notebook.

    I also get random crashes. Out of nowhere the screen will turn black then I get an error message (I'll post the error message next time it happens).
    It's really annoying since I've have had this happen 4 times in the last 2 hours.
     
  14. quiong

    quiong Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Turn off the windows sidebar before you run oblivion. I get that too, turning off windows sidebar fixes it.

    I think Oblivion has some memory leaks. My is stable for several hours, but eventually it will crash. When it does I see my memory usage at 100%. I have 2 gb of ram... I think that depending on how much ram you have, oblivion crash is just a matter of time. Since I usually don't play for 4 hours straight, it's not a problem for me.
     
  15. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have noticed that Oblivion has some rendering issues where Sidebar is...good find. I'll try it tonight and get back to you.
     
  16. Thibault

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    This is really getting annoying.

    Okay I think the problems started AFTER I defragmented my hard drive.
    I installed the game this morning. Played it and it never crashed (from what I remember). Later on I decided to clean up my computer (ran ad-aware, spybot and executive software diskeeper).
    The game randomly crashes since then.

    I uninstalled the game. Defragmented the hard drive. Installed and defragmented again. I never thought that defragmented might be the cause until just now. Could it be possible?

    The speccs of my notebook are in my signature. I run Windows XP home edition. I have nothing else running when I play (I turn off NHC, AVG Anti-Virus and MSN before playing).

    Edit: Nevermind on the defragmenting idea. I reinstalled it without defragmenting the hard drive and it still crashes.
    This is really getting annoying. I can't even play the game.

    This is really making me mad. Is there an issue with the X1600 and Oblivion? After each crash I have to restart since the drivers for my video card aren't working anymore (like if I was in safe mode). I have the latest ones from ATI's website.
     
  17. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Okay, this isn't working. Even with Sidebar and other GUI related stuff turned off, Oblivion is still crashing. Perhaps it is the 1.2 patch I have, as I've never had this problem...

    Once again considering re-loading XP... :mad:
     
  18. schizogony

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    Oh it definitely has memory leaks. To test this, I turned of Virtual Memory in Vista so I ONLY had my 2GB of RAM to work with and no Page File on my HDD. After about 2 minutes of being outdoors, Oblivion slowed to a CRAWL at like 1 frame per second and was freaking out. Then I heard a Windows chime in the background and, sure enough, I was low on memory.

    So, definitely don't turn off your Virtual Memory when playing Oblivion.



    Also, to stay on topic, I've had Oblivion crash a few times similar to what is being discussed. Go through a door, black, crash.

    I'm all patched up and a run a few mods but I Quicksave every 30 seconds or so, so I haven't really lost too much time.
     
  19. Greg

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    You know what's really strange...

    I was hiding out at Frostcraig Spire after acquiring about 5k of bounty, and I decided to wait around a little bit...

    Come out of wakeup, and suddenly I've got a conjurer fighting me at the top of the tower...now how and why did a conjurer suddenly decide to show up? My game also crashed while I was fighting him, so I'm not too sure how that would have panned out. I should have shoved him over the edge...but why was he there???
     
  20. Greg

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    Game still crashes... :(
     
  21. Gator

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    Lol that's really awesome.

    Sorry still no idea about the problem though. I don't game in Vista :(
     
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    I just formatted my notebook and did a defrag before installing the game.
    I still got some random crashes when I was playing yesterday.

    This is really getting annoying.

    I'll look around for a solution to my problem. Thanks for the links, ronkotus. Hopefully I can find an answer.
     
  24. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Since I'm not using Shivering Isles, I'm going to back track to the last version of Oblivion before 1.2.
     
  25. Greg

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    UPDATE:
    Since this has all started, I decided to reinstall XP. It is even worse there...

    Play game
    Game freezes
    Desktop appears
    A small window 'Oblivion Active Movie" shows up
    Try bringing up Oblivion again
    Game crashes for good...

    Or, the game just crashes...
     
  26. RefinedPower

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    I just noticed a new patch for Oblivion, but it seems to be oriented to the shivering isles problem. Might as well try it though if you haven't I guess.
     
  27. Greg

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    I installed SI and that patch as soon as I heard about the official release. No, I didn't use the beta drivers.
     
  28. Greg

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    Alright, so here's the deal...
    It still crashes...but I've notices a few things.

    1) I installed it with the CD in the E: drive. I have two drives, E and F.
    2) If I put the drive in F (E is having issues right now), Oblivion says no disk and to please insert into E.
    3) Hit anything twice, and the game launches anyway...
    4) Game crashes a few minutes later...

    Alternatively, if I do put the disc into E...
    1) Game works...
    2) Game crashes, though it does take a little longer...

    Also, for both cases...
    1) Oblivion frequently losses focus from Windows, and Oblivion ActiveMovie constantly pops up. Unless I handle this right, the game will always crash immediately after. If I don't do it, the OAM pops up later and then crashes. Bottom line, OAM shows up, I crash soon after...
    2) Game will sometimes freeze...I can rotate and look around, but everything else is paused. Yes, I'm watching snow flakes stay in mid-air here, and my flameballs paused in mid-flight.

    I just reinstalled Oblivion, minus the SI and 1.2 patch, and this is still happening...WHY???
     
  29. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    UPDATE: It appears that Oblivion and Roxio CinePlayer do not play well together. I'm testing that theory right now, but I think I've found the source of my crashes.

    EDIT: Yup, that was the source. Been running for almost two weeks without a problem.
     
  30. Numeriku

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    im having the exact same problem, what did you do with your Roxio CinePlayer? did you delete it or rename it or? since im not sure if i should delete it since other people use roxio > <
     
  31. Greg

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    I moved back to XP and didn't install MyDVD9, just used v7 (which came with my laptop). You need to completely prevent CinePlayer from installing the first time, as I do not know how to undo the 'damage.'