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    1 512mb 8800 gtx card VS dual sli 512 mb 8700's (1 gig of ram total)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by firstn20, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm planning on getting an m15x with a 8800 gtx card. And I was just wondering because I read some stuff on the 8800 gtx beating a dual sli 8700 setup.

    My question is:

    does a single 512mb 8800 gtx video card beat a dual sli 512 mb 8700 video card (1 gig of gpu memory in all)

    It's really hard to believe that 1 8800gtx can beat 1 gig of video memory, can someone confirm this? Because I'm sure they mean a 512 mb 8800 gtx CAN and WOULD beat dual sli 256mb 8700's (512 mb of total gpu memory)


    thanks
     
  2. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Yes. Video memory is a gimmick. The real deciding factor is clock speed.
     
  3. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    the 8800GTX will blow 8700Gt sli into the water.
     
  4. Harleyquin07

    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

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    8800m GTX is the best single mobile video card out on the market right now, it is only bested by its SLi variant in raw performance (for games designed to take SLi).
     
  5. nic.

    nic. Notebook Evangelist

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    Its all marketing tactics... A few friends of mine used to believe how much ram a GPU has mean how powerful it is....
     
  6. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

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    yes, the 8800gtx is that much ahead of the 8700.
     
  7. littledonny

    littledonny Notebook Guru

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    I don't know why everyone is so down on the SLI 8600/8700GT... I have the SLI 8600GT and when overclocked I'm scoring 8300 in 3DMark06 and running every game at very high settings... If the SLI offers a 33% performance increase on average in games and the 8800M GTX is 33% faster, doesn't that put them about even in a lot of games?
     
  8. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Relevant terms highlighted....

    "every game" ?? That makes you a liar! No offence but it couldn't run Crysis on very high for nuts!
     
  9. vshade

    vshade Notebook Evangelist

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    Also, sli'd cards have the memory capacity of one card, because almost all data is duplicated between the cards, also a desktop 256 8800 gt wil be faster than a 1gb 8600gt in most of cases(and the ones that the 8600gt wins it will probably too slow to play)
     
  10. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    LOL!!!! Tell him i have a go7300 with 512MB RAM!!!! Then ask him to guess the 3DM05 score....its 1520 btw.
     
  11. The_Punisher

    The_Punisher Notebook Evangelist

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    Go with the 8800M GTX. It's much better then the 8700M
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    3DMark06 is a useless benchmark with regards to real-life games.

    8800M-GTX is vastly superior to the 8600/8700GT SLI. It has much more shading power with 96 shading units; the 8600/8700 only has 32 each for a total of 64 in SLI. They're not even comparable. Compare the gaming performance of the 8700M-GT SLI Dell XPS M1730:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4085&review=Dell+XPS+M1730
    . . . and the 8800M-GTX-equipped Sager NP5793:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4235

    "On average" SLI performance increase does not mean anything - it's a hit or miss technology. Either the game can use it or not. See our SLI review:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4121
    SLI can be impressive but it's rare.
     
  13. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    ^ chaz just said it all.
     
  14. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    hmm well if you overclock the SLI 8700 you get some really good FPS in games and maybe better 3DMark score then a clocked GTX 8800?
     
  15. MrWhereItsAt

    MrWhereItsAt Notebook Evangelist

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    And then back OUT of the water. :)
     
  16. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Like Chaz said, no one gives a crap about 3DMark scores. Whatever you can get on a SLI 8700m GT setup, you can get more from a single 8800m GTX.
     
  17. Satyrion

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    well i give a crap and i believe the GTX will perform better in games but not in 3DMark. The 8700 SLI perfmance in a SLI suppoted games would be very close to the GTX 8800. especially if the GTZ and SLI cards are clocked
     
  18. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    your joking right?

    the 8800m GTX is as powerful as a 7950GTX SLI setup, which is more powerful than the 8700 GT setup. They are not even close in games.
     
  20. Satyrion

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    wow i just **** in my pants. that is a sick sick score for a laptop! i didnt know it was that high! Same as my brothers 8800 GTX desktop with E6600.

    Wow i would live to clock that card, i would hit over 10k with a laptop. INSANE!
     
  21. littledonny

    littledonny Notebook Guru

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    Crysis blows, I don't play it.

    I'd be willing to bet that my OC'd SLi 8600M GT rig can come within 5% of a stock clocked 8800M GTX, given the same CPU, on games that implement SLi - which is a pretty good portion of them.
     
  22. Satyrion

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    hmm that could be according to 3Dmark the GTX gets around 9300-10000 unclocked it depends on the CPU. Your cards should get over 8000 points clocked in SLI. The GTX should however get around 12k clocked i guess and it SLI over 16k
     
  23. narsnail

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    illbet that it wont come within 5%
     
  24. Lethal Lottery

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    ill bet that it wont come with in 50%
     
  25. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    As much as I like my 8700m... it is no match for an 8800m GTX.
    Nor would it be so in SLI, even in a game which uses it quite optimally.
    (you will never get actually 2x the performance out of SLI due to overhead)

    Then again, I didn't have to mortgage the house to buy a laptop...

    note the scores posted are at 1920x1200 8AF/4AA... not a very fair comparison for a single 8700m as it will be flooding its 128-bit bus.

    Even so, the 8800GTX scores more than twice as much.

    The 8700 will not even come CLOSE to competing at that high of a resolution.
    (and an OC'd 8600 SLI isn't going to either as the stock-clocked 8700 is better than massively overclocked 8600s running at meltdown temps)

    Now, if we drop the resolution a tad and turn down the settings we might have a little closer comparison... but the SLI'd 8700s still don't have the shading power of the 8800GTX even if they could use them at full double-power.

    The 8700m and SLI8600 laptops really are quite impressive once a moderately intelligent user is behind them, but not a match for the 8800m GTX.
    Then again the 8700 or 8600SLI laptops are in a MUCH lower price range than the insanely expensive 8800m GTX machines.
     
  26. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    i believe an 8800mGTS even is about the same as SLi 8700mGT....and its about the same price range too. in fact, its the same in 3dmarks so it might be better in actual gaming. especially with the gateway p fx beast with the 8800mgts for 1200 its just crazy good.
     
  27. narsnail

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    well half the time SLI doesnt work so I think its better...and when it does work you would be lucky to get a %60 performance increase.
     
  28. Desertf0x9

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    Until game programmers actually start actively taking advantage of sli technology it's more a gimmick than anything. Even current games that do take sli, the gains are very minimal. SLI is more of bragging rights than anything else.

    That said I don't think dual 8700 gt slis even beat the geforce 7950 gtx in terms of game performance.
     
  29. Magnus72

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    Depends I had some very good framerates with my 8700m GT SLI in different games and at high resolutions. I would love to see a 7950GTX play Colin McRae Dirt at 1680x1050 and at 30fps or Medal of Honor Airborne maxed at 1920x1200 at 40 fps. How about Gears of War does a 7950GTX pull of 40fps at 1920x1200 all maxed out?
     
  30. AndersXPS

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    NAHA, didnt think so. i like the 8700's aswell, but they are surely no match for the 8800 gtx, hmmm, whats that smell? *UPGRADE* FTW!
     
  31. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    But of course 8700m GT SLI is no match to a single 8800m GTX.
     
  32. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Just to set the record straight, two 8700s with 512 mb ram DO NOT TOTAL 1 GB OF RAM. They total 512mb of ram. The vRam is copied identically onto both cards when running a game, so the total vRAM is equal to the vRAM of individual cards. There is no argument here, calling it a 1gb video card setup is a pure marketing gimmick set up by very very mean and untrustworthy computer vendors in an attempt to steal consumer's money. They should be tried for murder and sentenced to death, and I need some friggen sleep...what the heck am I doin on NBR?
     
  33. KGann

    KGann NBR Themesong Writer

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    :rolleyes:

    Come on dude. I love my little workhorse, but I'm not gonna go around pretending it demolishes competition. We have showed you benchmarks, reviews, RAW PERFORMANCE, and yet, you still think your laptop is "The Chosen One". The one who will defeat the mighty 8800GTX.

    Give it up.