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    128MB vs 256MB Quadro FX 570m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by wuzertheloser, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    I searched for a thread of the 128mb vs 256mb 8600GT and read through the macbook pro's results. do you think the same result would show for the quadro fx series in gaming? mainly i just want to know if the 128mb version of the Quadro FX 570m will be able to handle crysis and starcraft 2 and maybe CoD4 at med settings at a 1440 x 900 resolution.
     
  2. jin07

    jin07 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I'm guessing you'll get similar results between the difference between the 128 vs 256 MB 8600 GT compared to the difference between a 128 vs 256 MB 570M. By similar results I mean the gap between the two will probably be similar, but the 570M should be more powerful than the 8600 GT. I'm pretty sure the 128 MB 570M could run those games.
     
  3. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    thanks for the response! any other opinions?
     
  4. eyepwnuall

    eyepwnuall Notebook Consultant

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    You should be ok but i think the 256mb card would do better at 1440x900 cause that ram helps out alot in resolutions above 1280x800...
     
  5. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    yeah...problem was i need a 14" notebook and well...the 128mb version was only offered in the 14"...no 256 mb :(
     
  6. wuzertheloser

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    bump for more opinions =]
     
  7. Stewie Griffin

    Stewie Griffin Notebook Consultant

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    the t61p thinkpad comes with a 570M 256 card, according to Greg:

    "the card is NOT a equalivalent of 8600m GT as many say. It is more powerful because My understanding is the 570M in the T61P use GDDR3 memory, which accounts for the 'more powerful' score compared to the 1520 and its DDR2 graphics memory (which is not as fast).

    If a laptop with the 8600GT had GDDR3 memory (some do, I just don't know which) then they'd probably about tie."

    the 256 will handle SC2 at max settings, Crysis probably only on medium settings. I read somewhere that even the 8800 GTX had trouble with crysis on max resolution/settings
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  8. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    the 14.1" T61p only has the 128mb GDDR3 memory, which is why i'm wondering if it'll make that much of a performance difference or will adding something like 3 GB of RAM make up for some of the performance loss.

    Also, the 128mb FX570m should outperform the 256mb 8600gs right?
     
  9. Stewie Griffin

    Stewie Griffin Notebook Consultant

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    Thats a hard question to answer because "real benchmark" tests for the 570M and 8600 GT havent come out yet, so you will see different scores from different sources, each telling you a different story.

    On my money, i would still say the 8600 GS will be slightly more powerful, despite the fact that it is GDDR2.
     
  10. Bona Fide

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    I would say it's about as powerful as the 8600GS. They both have GDDR3 and a 128-bit interface, but the 570M has twice as many stream processors. However, its drivers are not gaming-optimized and (in your case) it only has 128MB RAM against the 8600GS's 256MB.

    All said and done, they're probably equal. The 128MB 570M is the rough workstation equivalent of the 128MB 8600GT found in the MBP.
     
  11. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    well that's good to know =]
    i know i can use the drivers for the 8600GT when I want more performance and use the Quadro drivers when i'm not gaming.

    the only thing that has me worried is the amount of ram. 128mb is a bit low, but that's the best i could find out of the thinkpad line without bumping screen size up to 15.4"
     
  12. Stewie Griffin

    Stewie Griffin Notebook Consultant

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    why not a 15.4 inch?
     
  13. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    my dad has one and personally i think it's too heavy for what it offers.
    the only big difference between the 14.1 and 15.4 inch models besides screen size was the 128mb vs 256mb versions of the 570m and i couldn't justify the ~$200 increase in price, and that was with the EPP discount
     
  14. Stewie Griffin

    Stewie Griffin Notebook Consultant

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    lol if you ordered the t61p a week or two ago, you wouldnt have this problem
     
  15. wuzertheloser

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    what do you mean if i ordered a week or two ago? don't tell me the 14.1 t61p had 256mb 570m a week or two ago
     
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    so the answer is basically is the card is okay to play future games at medium-low settings at 1440 x 900 resolution? mainly crysis and sc2?
    if so...mods can close this thread
     
  17. Bona Fide

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    I think that's what he means, although it's kind of hard to believe that Lenovo would just change the specs so abruptly.
     
  18. wuzertheloser

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    i checked with Lenovo, they never offered the 256mb 570m in the 14.1 T61p
    i think there was a coupon a few weeks ago so i could save the $200 between the 15.4 and 14.1 versions to get the 256mb one
     
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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    and i thought switching operating systems was inconvenient! ;)
     
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    Higher end games might struggle at 1400x1050, so you'll have to turn down the settings to medium. At 1024x768, I doubt there'll be a difference between 128mb and 256mb 570M for the T61p.
     
  21. Stewie Griffin

    Stewie Griffin Notebook Consultant

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    no, sorry for the confusion, i meant that if you ordered a week ago, there was no choice, only the 15.4, 256 mb chip. you wouldnt have been in this dilemma
     
  22. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    oh....yeah...haha.
    i wasn't even looking at the T-series a week or two ago because they didn't offer a 14.1 inch and that's what i was looking for xP
     
  23. AceOfSpades

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    The T61s had a 14.1 inch screen option since they came out
     
  24. wuzertheloser

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    but not with a good graphics card...
    the 570m is the best lenovo has to offer in the t-series.
     
  25. smoothoperator

    smoothoperator Notebook Evangelist

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    From my 3DMark and Vista scores it seems as if the 128mb 570 is related to the 8400GS as opposed to the 8400GT. The 570 256mb might be the GT but the 128 is probably the GS Derivative.
     
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    8400 or 8600?
    i'm pretty sure it's the 8600...
     
  27. razzasizer

    razzasizer Notebook Enthusiast

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    oh my god.

    There has been like 7 threads on the 57M card in the T61p.
    looks like you guys don't bother to read those first!

    okay, the 570M is actually a highly t......ahh, forget it!

    here,

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=146354&page=8


    And next time do your damn research properly, atleast through this forum if you can't access nvidia's website and navigate through it.
     
  28. smoothoperator

    smoothoperator Notebook Evangelist

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    sorry yes that was a typo I meant 8600 instead of 8400, I have done my research that is why I purchased a T61P 14.1 128mb 570 because I thought it would have the same processing power as a 8600GT but in reality the benchmarks are similar to a 8600 GS.
     
  29. admlam

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    Benchmarks don't mean much. Besides, it was only a few hundred points short of typical 128mb 8600GT scores. Referring to this thread from Thinkpad Forums. We won't know until we see more of these GPUs in action and mature drivers roll out.