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    15 inch laptops and graphics cards

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by flippoet, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    As far as 15 inch laptops go, can we expect anything better than the 8600m GT on them or will the 8700 make an appearance on one? i'm asking because i'm wondering if it's worth waiting for one to appear or if i should just buy now. thanks
     
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    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, I think it looks like for the time being, the 8600M GT is going to be about as powerful as you can get in a typical 15.4" laptop. The 8700M is a much more powerful and demanding card.

    -Zadillo
     
  4. pinwanger

    pinwanger Notebook Consultant

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    8700 is identical to 8600 physically tho.
     
  5. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    yea, if its the same physically why can't it fit? does it become a cooling/power issue(i don't know if laptops have those...) or do manufacturers feel that it would be a waste to put such a powerful card in a 15 inch laptop
     
  6. pinwanger

    pinwanger Notebook Consultant

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    I would absolutely buy a 15.4 inch laptop with 8700gt.
     
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    the 8700 is a beast and ive only seen 17" laptops with it so far.
     
  8. Chris27

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    or you could just buy a notebook with an 8600 gt, overclock it a bit, and you got yourself an 8700
     
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    I REALLY hope it'll work in the ASUS C90. I'm not holding my breath, though. Maybe an 8700M GS in the future. Sounds more likely to me.
     
  10. Mr.T

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    Wait, is the 8700 better than the 8800? It seems as if name wise it is an upgrade to the 8600.
     
  11. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    what was the most powerful 7 series card that was on a 15 inch laptop?
     
  12. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    GeForce Go 7700, found in laptops like the Asus G1.
     
  13. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    thats equivalent to the 8600m gt correct? so if we base this on history the 8600m gt is going to be the best option for 15 inch laptops until the 9 series comes out.
     
  14. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Something like that. With the previous gen, the original "top end" card from NVidia for 15.4" laptops was the GeForce Go 7600. The GeForce Go 7700 was an improvement that came later.

    I think it's possible that before the 9 series comes out, NVidia might manage to squeeze some more power than is available with the 8600MGT currently.... maybe it would be called the 8650M or something, since the 8700M designation is now in use for a 17" part.

    -Zadillo
     
  15. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    how often does nvidia release cards?
     
  16. elminster69

    elminster69 Notebook Geek

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    its not only size that determines what card goes into what size laptop, its also heat that is a big killer followed by power consumption
     
  17. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Its unlikely for the 8700M GT to make it into a 15.4" notebook. The reason is mainy due to the power consumption and thermal outut. At the moment, its 35 Watts, and only 17" notebooks will be able to handle such wattages. However, like Zadillo said, nVidia may release an update of the 8600M GT, which could find its way into 15.4" notebooks. But, it could take some time, because nVidia has only just released these current cards.
     
  18. The Forerunner

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    Just wait till word about the 8800m. If the the 22-25 watts is true 15.4 inches should handle it. All that remains is the size and heat. It is a 65nm die shrink so I think size will be ok. I am just worried about pricing and release date though its supposed to come out this summer because over rumors that the 9 series is coming out fall-years end?
     
  19. jman888

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    Overclock a laptop by 200mhz...
    the 8700 is clocked WAY higher.
     
  20. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    why would they release the 9 series so soon, it just doesn't make sense from a business stand point. They won't be able to milk this series for all it's worth and thus justify the cost of its production.
     
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    Because the 8 Series isnt fast enough for most DX10 Stuff. And the 9 series has a 3x Preformance increse... I want it.
     
  22. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Where does the information come up about the 9 series?

    And what DX10 stuff isn't the 8 series fast enough for (at least, the 8600M GT, 8700M and 8800M)?
     
  23. Alias

    Alias Notebook Deity

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    If u havnt noticed there hasnt even been much DirectX 10 benchmarks to even to know that the 8 series isnt fast enough let alone know the performance of the 9 series!! :p
     
  24. flippoet

    flippoet Notebook Consultant

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    there aren't much dx10 stuff to do benchmarks on for that matter. i don't think they will release the 9 series till dx10 gets further established
     
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    Still waiting for the source of this "3x faster" statement plz :rolleyes: