17 inch Laptops are to weak

I was going to buy a new laptop today

http://www.multicom.no/SystemConfigurator.aspx?q=st:10544828;c:100560

There u can see it. I will get the 8800 GTX but the screen res is 1920x1200 and as we all know you have to always run native res on LCD screens unless u want a blury picture. I dont understand how they can sell a laptop that is so "weak" with that screen res. I wont be able to max out any games from 2007/2008.

Its simply plain stupid. I wanna be able yo play on full details not on medium settings with a high res on a 17 inch screen, for god sake!

 

When did downscaling ever turn LCD images blurry? If it bothers you so much change to another retailer and get another 17" laptop with a slightly lower native resolution whilst retaining the 8800m GTX.

 

When? They have always been blurry when u dont run at native res. Thats why everyone wants to run on native res...

Test with ur own screen. When i set the laptop in my spec to any other res than native whih is 1280x800 its get so blurry that i think am drunk

 

Don't be ridiculous, I have a 19" LCD that I run at different resolutions for different games, and on the desktop, it looks fine. This 'blur' that your talking about is rather minimal/almost nonexistent if your not looking for it...

What is so "weak" about it? Your either incredibly picky, or just plain crazy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that Clevo M570RU-U / M571RU-U. No one expects you to play all of your games at that high a resolution.

If you don't like the WUXGA 1920x1200 for some strange reason, wait for the Clevo M86TU with the 15.4" HD WSXGA+ 1680x1050.

Buy a desktop with the fastest processor you can find, purchase either the ati 3850*2, or 8800gtx * 2 as well as that 17" screen you desire

 

Games are the one thing that still look good at non-native resolutions. You will have no problem scaling down and playing.

 

The blur is crazy i mean i cannot even read a word if i dont run at native res its like playing in a room filled with mist and smoke.

Its not really weak its just to weak for the screen res. with LCD you always have to play in native res unless u wanna have a very blurry picture full of blur and blureness

 

I think your exaggerating this whole 'blur' deal, there is really nothing the folks on this forum can do for you besides suggest alternatives... no one can enable you to play Crysis @ 1900*1200 on High with a laptop, I'm not even sure any desktops can do that that...

I read your title "Re: 17 inch Laptops are to weak", and almost ignored you.

 

Thanks Greg those words was all i wanted to hear. Now am getting that laptop anyway, thanks

 

You needed someone to tell you this? Dude,

 

Yup, maybe u can tell me as well, it would make me feel better.

hehe kidding but i was just pissed cuz my brother told me this stuff and i tested with my laptop and i saw the blur very clear in windows but in games i didnt notice it much unless i switched between native and non native every 2 minutes.

Guess i just had to hear from u guys if the blur is annoying in games or not. guess not so ill get the laptop with the res )

 

The only 'blurring' you'll ever notice is if you try non-gaming apps (like the desktop and stuff) at non-native resolution.

There is truth to the whole blurring thing, but graphics are the exception...you'll be fine.

 

Maybe you saw "blur" because your brother's laptop has a very low native resolution and if you play at a lower resolution. So, if you play at a lower resolution than the native it will definitely look blurry because it's just a low resolution. What laptop does he have?

 

I havea 1920X1200 17" screen + 8800M GTX. Now, I'm not playing Crysis, but I have had no problems running at high or even max settings at native res.

 

Well he got a desktop with a 20 inch Syncmaster from samsung i think. it supports 1600x1050 res or something around that.

I dont know if he has ever tried to play at another res he just told me he would not get a bigger screen cuz than he would not be able to play at native res with high details and if he didnt play native the games would becomes blurry.

 

he's right about the blurring, and for text its HORRIBLE.

even text in game doesn't turn out that great-

but the actual graphics are generally spared, it doesn't matter so much.

plus, a 1920x1200 screen will be a lot better at running 1280x800 than, say, a 1440x900 screen. more pixels = better interpolation = less blurry

 

Just play at 1920x1200. High 1920x1200 looks better than max 1280x800 anyway.

Once you will used to 1920x1200, you won't be able to go lower.

 

Yup. This is esepcially true with things like AA.

 

So the blur is that extreme huh?

Guess ill get a lower res screen then

I hate the blur!

 

Just play at 1920x1200

 

well AOC dont run well on 1920x1200 on high, so i gotta sacrifice details to be able to play it and run it on low medium on a 8800 GTX. redicolus!

 

And besides, if it was a huge concern to begin with there are plenty of options. You can get 17" laptops with good specs that have 1440×900, 1680×1050 etc. The laptop you pointed out has such high res that one could argue its overkill for a 17 inch screen. Lower res screens with the same specs are available

 

you can always use a fixed aspect ratio..

 

For crying out loud...games do NOT have blur issues. I regularly play at 1280x800 or 1680x1050 on my 1920x1200 monitor. Some older games I do play at 1920x1200...but then again that is because I want to. Not because they look bad.

 

If my laptop run it at high, shader 2.0, shadow & grass off 1680x1050. I'm pretty sure you can do the same at 1920x1200.

And BTW: High runs better than low & medium on AoC for whatever reason.

 

you are realy picky aren't you.

I run games at 1280*800 on a 1440*900 screen, it's fine,

 

I also scale back for my old 7800GTX to play Bioshock at around 1280x800 on my WUXGA (1920x1200) screen.
... I wanted the eye candy... I do not notice any negative visuals... just nice smooth framerates with medium/high quality settings.

 

Sorry dude, but any game older than 2007 can be run at native on a 17 incher with a 8800M GTX. Actually, any game except Crysis for that matter

And as Greg said, games still look cool even at non-native.
Talk about picky

 

While laptops are currently only a few steps behind their desktop counterparts, I think you may be asking too much from even the desktop.

A friend of mine plays Conan on an OC'd SLI 8800GTS system...
He doesn't even play at 1920x1200 with everything on.
(1680x1050, HIGH settings with shadows, reflections off.)
Note that SLI doesn't work well (he says at all) with Conan.

The system you describe is roughly twice as powerful as the one I play on and I get 28-40+ fps at 1440x900...

You are looking at more than 60+ fps avg at 1440x900 with such a laptop.

Laptop LCD scaling does indeed work and looks just fine in most cases.
(multiple posters with such screens have now assured you it looks fine)

Why is this not good enough?

Why does it HAVE to be at 1920x1200?

 

AoC 1440x900 looks fantastic to me, but I'm not one of those guys who HAS to run everything maxed.

 

Very ture, on both sides, Laptops are great for gaming and not falling that much behind, Secondly SLI never works with AoC till date in some cases

 

Can't you get a screen with 1680 x 1050(?) if it bothers you so much?

Mine is 1920x1200,never had any problems.I leave the desktop in that resolution and in games,decrease it.

 

My 1400x900 screen looks far nicer, native, than my 1920x1200 downscaled to same resolution for the sake of FPS. I find that most games look just fine when down scaled as pointed out by others.

If scaled graphics looks bad, you may have the option to set screen to "do not scale". Nice sharp native graphics but with a black border around around now smaller screen.

 

Yes, that is a good point. Though it does mean you effectively reduce your screen size.

 

The slight blur actually helps. Remember how Playstation games always looked less jaggy than early 3D PC games? That's because the "rounder" pixels of a CRT Television help smooth it out. Yes it was a bit "blurry" but that wasn't all a bad thing.

The sampling used in most LCD screens is usually much sharper. If anything it's good to not run in native res because it helps smooth out jaggies. You don't need your games to be THAT sharp, it looks un realistic, since real life is not sharp.

 

Get 8800m GTX SLI and 1680x1050 screen. End of story.

 

No no, you should get an 868X600 screen, so that way you can play Crysis 5 on max settings at native res when it comes out. Everything else will look awesome too.

 

you mean 640x480 then hook it up to a regular TV and you'll be all set.

 

hahha yes... wen i read this... iwas like... WTF nobody's ever heard of the D901c here? If you call that weak... then... i hate to be mean, but ur a moron.

 

No no, 868X600. Widescreen. Come on, what is this, 1997?

 

I downloaded the "Race Driver: GRiD" demo the other day and installed it on my Sager 5793 (same as the laptop in the OP). As a joke I set everything to highest settings. 1920x1200, all eye candy, all effects. Fired up the game expecting it to chug.. It ran beautifully. And it's a very pretty game. Amazing what these laptops can do.

These laptops have glossy screens, which gives the colors a little extra pop. It also seems to give the anti-aliasing a little gloss which can help with off-native resolutions.

 

Maybe i gotta get the laptop but a separate monitor one of those old fat ones so i wont see any blur. And i gotta attach it to my back with a special made back pack so i can carry it around with the laptop.

Will be quite annoying though walking around with a 19 inch fat monitor on my back and the laptop on atached to my belly.

Well at least i dont get any blur.

 

"Fat ones" AKA CRT = Welcome Tumors and decreased sperm ROFL

 

This is a lost cause.

 

this is the most ridiculous thread i've read on here so far. even ones with horrific grammar made more sense to me.

i think you're REALLY over exaggerating whatever 'blur' problem you are talking about... and i can't believe you needed to wait like 10 posts for an NBR guy to tell you that games will not blur for you to change your mind when the other posts before his said basically the same thing..

this confused me more than anything.

and i still don't understand what you are talking about

/end rant

 

Seriously? You are rediculous.

THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT BLUR! It doesn't exist. Gamers have been downscaling games for years... would be be doing if this if it was "too blurry?" No! Get over it, and buy a notebook. I only play 3 games at 1440x900, and others at 1280x800. I couldn't find a blur if you told me to. Things aren't perfectly sharp, but it's not so blurry you can't handle it.

Jesus man, you're helpless.

 

Satyrion, maybe you should spend your money on an eye checkup instead.

 

I find lots of blur on my 1680x1050 but it depends on some games. WiC is perfect on 1440x900 but Tabula Rasa, LOTRO & AoC destroyed my eyes.

 

Listen to JCMS guys. We r living in a blurry world these days full of vlureness and other blure.

P.S i also get a freak out if i see blure

 

Then drop $4,000+ on a notebook.

Go ahead.

 

you're both crazy, but Satyrion, i think, is insane