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    2080ti laptop variant likely coming very soon

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JRE84, Sep 15, 2019.

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    Would be interesting but I think limited to the super huge dual brick ones.....which I just moved away from. =\

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    yea i'd imagine you would need two bricks
     
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    The slabs are too hard to fly with nowadays, I won't be going back and there is no way that thing is coming in a flight worthy configuration unless significantly nerfed. All hail those willing to make the accommodation!
     
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    "flight-worthy" in combination with super high end mobile graphics is a no go anyways *lol* :)

    well, TDP and cooling wise its no problem whatsoever, the previous SLI setups combined two 1080s at 180-200W each, so total of 360-400W on the GPU side only.
     
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    Likely it's going to be a DTR workstation style chassis. Something you would see in a clevo p870, MSI GT 8x, Asus ROG or what ever monstrosity acer spits out.

    @jaybee83 the only issue I could see is how are they going to get all those heatsinks on it. Lmao

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    Flight worthy? I fly with my P870tm1 almost every other week. . . .
     
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    It could happen (2080 Ti in a notebook), but I'm skeptical it would happen this late in Nvidia's product lifecycle.

    Charles
     
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    yeah im not sure but notebookcheck says the quadro equivalent of the 2080ti was released 14 days ago
     
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    with a vapor chamber no problem :)

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    Just because you can fly with it doesn't mean it's flight worthy. I've had a couple double supply laptops and not sure how many fatties before that was a thing and as I fly to and from work I'm familiar with traveling with them. Do that and you've got a 10 to 12 lb laptop which combined with the power supplies will already put you over the 15lb limit you can often run into overseas before you even count the bag you're going to put them in. Back in the day my carry backpack usually ran 30 to 35 lbs and I once knocked over an old woman who was standing behind me in the security line just by turning around and clipping her with the backpack. I've been denied boarding in Yekaterinburg, Istanbul, Rome, Helsinki, that I can think of off hand because of those laptops. That's without even bringing up how little fun it is to drag around a heavy bag through 30 hour 12,000 step days.

    Nowadays it's just too much of a pain when you can get a similarly priced 17" laptop that will go under 10 lbs all in and play games just fine. I do exactly that: I've got an Aorus with a 1080 that seems me through pretty darn well and if I put the supply in my check (which I do on longer flights) I can also carry a 13" Spectre which I can actually use off a tray table unlike the 17 incher and which gets 6 legit hours of screen on before I plug it in to the portable power supply if needed. Most importantly it all fits under that 7 kilo limit along with some basic files and other small minutia. This is what I'm talking about when I say flight worthy, I'm thinking you're just saying it's possible and you're not wrong in that respect.
     
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    My experience is nothing like yours. I usually throw the bricks in my checked bag or carry on and put the laptop in my personal item on under the seat. Never been denied boarding, never knocked anyone over, never run into weight restrictions; carrying around 12 pounds in a backpack is not strenuous.

    Since I spend a great deal of time in hotel rooms, it doesn't make much sense for me to build a desktop. Therefore, since a laptop will be my only machine I also dont want to compromise on processing power. Nothing with a single card, Max-q or not, is going to run the Witcher 3 in 4k at 60hz.

    If I only traveled occasionally, then maybe I'd consider a second machine in the form of a thin and light, or just get by on my Switch.
     
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    Given the 2080ti high power draw and high thermal output at real desktop performance levels, coupled with a 9900K series CPU - even with a dual PSU of 800w+ I don't see how cooling hardware adequate for "competition" use will fit into a traditional laptop form.

    If we get any kind of 2080ti laptop it will likely be in name only and it won't be full performance vs desktop, at least a little faster than a 2080 200w laptop for a large uplift in price. Hardly worth it.

    Instead you could make a nice compact PC with sides sized 16:10 - with an integrated 300hz display in place of the tempered glass - venting out the other side / back / top.

    A form factor somewhere between a display with a PC grown out the back of it - thin with legs, and a PC with an integrated screen on it's side that can tilt and swivel for adjustment.

    That's where I would believe a "portable" PC of that super high performance might work.

    Maybe with a folding display so the chassis could fit on an airline tray table - with the screen folding out over the area to the left and right of the seat. That would be a mighty nice gaming PC to take on a long flight.

    Those Business-class or First-Class Suite's would make a nice place for one. :)
     
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    Sounds like you fly in the States, things are different elsewhere. Your bag isn't 12 lbs either, the bag itself probably weighs 4 or more lbs and the numbers go up shockingly fast with just a little paperwork, phone chargers, a spare pair of socks, toothbrush etc. You're probably actually lugging around what, 20 lbs? More? Before you deny this try weighing your stuff, I think you'll be surprised. You're probably thinking 20 still isn't heavy and you're not wrong when you fly in the States and probably do at most 3 airports with a car at either and and a total travel time of less than 12 hours. That 20 lbs gets a lot heavier when you're on your 30th hour in the 5th airport. It isn't just carry either, checked bags are subject to much more scrutiny overseas and many will not allow an overweight bag, they simply will not accept it at any price.

    In any event none of that really matters in reference to my first post, the big slabs can be carried but they are in no way travel worthy which was my point from the beginning. I travel extensively, often, and all over the world, both work and pleasure. Like you do now I used to lug the most serious machine money could buy but that has become untenable and I never considered them travel worthy, I was just willing to pay the price. There is way more to travel overseas that relates but it belongs in another thread on another forum. As I said, I salute those willing to go there with the big slabs, there aren't many of us and I'm out due to technical difficulties but I still hope it becomes available for those willing to haul the freight.
     
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    where do u get that 800W+ number from? o_O

    250W for 2080Ti + 150W for 9900K = 400W, plus rest of the system ure looking at maybe 450-500W. totally doable both from a thermal, as well as a power perspective with existing designs (P870)

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    So like that ROG mothership with decent specs? Lol


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    The ROG mothership with 200w 2080 GPU and 9900K should match the other top configurations.

    To perform further above all of the best 2080 200w+ laptops would need what, another 30%-40% more power and cooling to fully utilize a 2080ti?
    Maybe not 800w draw at 100% OC load, but having more than enough PSU power with enough headroom that you aren't cooking the PSU's - and where's the uber overclocker in you that you don't want an 800w PSU combo for maximum OC headroom? Besides, it's already been out and used with top laptop configurations as a single PSU - replacing the 2 PSU combo:

    EUROCOM 780W AC Adapter
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    The World's Most Powerful 780W External AC/DC Adapter.
    Great for High end Laptops, Small Form Factor PCs, Industrial PCs and Servers.
    https://eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,404,0)780WACDCAdapter
     
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    https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ProArt-StudioBook-One-W590G6T/

    Interestingly they keep it from burning your lap by putting the components in the lid behind the panel. Curious about the balance on this.

    You know a company is feeling confident when it has industry-standard benchmarking software pre-installed on its demo PCs. ASUS' new ProArt StudioBook One is the first to offer NVIDIA's class-leading Quadro RTX 6000 pro graphics. And it had Futuremark's 3D Mark 11 just sat there, practically begging us to try and see how fast thing could run. Turns out that it had a Performance score of 24,438, making this laptop faster than 98 percent of all computers it's ever benchmarked.

    Intel® Core™ i9-9980HK processor
    2.4GHz octa-core with Turbo Boost (up to 5.0GHz) and 16MB SmartCache

    NVIDIA® Quadro® RTX 6000
    24GB GDDR6 VRAM

    15.6” LED-backlit UHD (3840 x 2160) display

    32GB DDR4 2666MHz

    90Wh 12-cell lithium-polymer battery

    300W power adapter

    Height: 2.42cm (0.95 inches)
    Width: 36.45cm (14.35 inches)
    Depth: 24.5cm (9.65 inches)
    Weight: 2.9Kg (6.39 pounds)


     
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    And, it does all of that with a BGA CPU...
     
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    What is the source of that quote?
     
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    48v.jpg
     
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    It's possible they weren't allowed to take a shot of the screen, seemed like a convention demo machine.
     
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    maybe u can track down the score online, there shouldnt be many benchmark results that combine an rtx 6000 with a 9980hk ;)

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    Already tried that, but it's not in the 3DMark database.
     
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    2080Ti max-q?
    :cool:
     
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    rip

    all those abbreviations make my head hurt

    ti-maq-max-performance-edition-limited-asus-rog-nvidia-founders :D
     
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    Don't forget SUPER ;)
     
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    That's some smooth marketing speak. The number of abbreviations appended to the model number is directly corelatedwith increased performnce /s
     
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    All the components are behind the LCD, it opens up for ventilation. (in the case you closed it too fast). Not saying I think it's a good idea at any rate.
     
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    It takes advantage of convection cooling, natural heat rising from bottom to top, drawing in cool air on the bottom and blowing out hot air 4 ways at the top. It's a great idea and should cool much easier with less fan noise.

    Asus said they worked out the heat barrier for the screen, which is about the only danger of the design. That and making it too top heavy.

    It's a great idea, IDK if it's enough to get full performance out of the CPU / GPU...
     
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    Yeah, I really like that they tried something outside the box. Remains to be seen the drawbacks for any type of balance in real reviews, I can't find any yet. I have no interest in purchasing it, but I'm definitely interested to see how well received it is and how it performs.
     
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    I say that all the time, that just going to look thing. It always ends with a thinner wallet. o_O
     
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    If they do come with the 2020 Clevo launch, lets hope it's non-bga soldered piece of garbage or a new mxm standart that doesn't work with current mxm laptops.
     
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    2080ti Max-Q :eek:
     
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    Or 2080 Max-Q Super :vbbiggrin:
     
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    NOOO!! I'll puke if that happens.
     
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    Inevitable at any rate. I mean there are already 2 sub variants of 2080 max-q :rolleyes:

    How about a Titan RTX Max-Q :) Or even a Titan RTX Max-Q SUPER :p Gotta love that TU102.

    I mean for as many variants as they love to make of everything, its basically going to happen. The fact that the 2080ti die is coming just shows that.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/?mfgr=NVIDIA&architecture=Turing&sort=name
     
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    They need to work on some more marketable naming scheme then.

    RTX Super Qt or good old engrish 'TITAN SUPER MAX'
     
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    How about... "GT Titan that kicks sand in the face of your games and then laughs at them and walks away with the girl Mk2800Ti" ? :)
     
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    Add some xXx before and after and it's solid.
     
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    Whats really interesting about this laptop is the 4k 120hz screen :D Still, I would rather have 1440p at 240hz or 300hz, and 1080 at 480hz. I mean if you pulled off 120hz at 4k you should be about to go well past 120hz in a lower resolution. 24000 in 3D mark isnt bad.

    Titanium cooling that generates alot of heat and is powered by a USB-C port???



    If you successfully made a fat top in a thin format, then why stick with a mobile cpu??? Hell why stick with 8 cores when you can have a xeon or ryzen with 12 or 24 cores as your this far already :p Its also a new feat that it has more gpu vram then actual ddr4 ram, and ddr5 isnt that far away, or is ito_O The thing is obviously all GPU, so I can see why they just went with a mobile cpu and minimal ram. Since the heatsink size isnt much larger for the gpu then the cpu, I can conclude that the gpu may have a tdp of something about 180 watts, and because the die is so large, we can also get away with a smaller heatsink due to the heat to die size ratio, and we see that alot in regular laptops with this 3 to 2 in heatsink pipes. 8750 gets 3 pipes while 1060 gets 2 pipes, even though the 1060 will generate far more heat given the higher 80 watt tdp.

     
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    3DMark11 is so dated I'm not sure if I should draw comparisons. I haven't run it in literal years. Where does a 33k Graphics score rank these days?
     
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    RTX6000-Notebook: 33969 Graphics (2:29 mark in the video)
    GTX1080-Notebook: 34863 Graphics
    RTX2080-Notebook: 42458 Graphics
     
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    That’s a big oof.
     
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    Kinda to be expected, Quadro cards aren't meant for gaming. It's tough for them to compete against the higher clocked 1080/2080's.
     
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    Still, I expected much better given Nvidia lists a 250W TDP for the mobile Quadro RTX 6000. So I guess this is a Max-Q variant.
     
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    Just another BGA-book.