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    256MB ATI MobilityTM Radeon X1400 HyperMemory

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ~Neuromancer, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. ~Neuromancer

    ~Neuromancer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just orderd a Dell Inspiron 1505 w/2GB Ram :cool: , 7200 HD :eek: , 2GHz Core Duo ;) and 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 HyperMemory :confused: .
    I haven't been much of a gamer but I'm slowly getting interested. Can anyone tell me the extent to which I can play 3D games with this graphics card?
     
  2. Jimbobbeers

    Jimbobbeers Notebook Geek

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    Erm pretty good i'd say.
    You'll be able to play the latest games in good graphics i believe. :)

    Oh go to this and go to the mid-end cards, you'll see yours there..

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568
     
  3. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    If you meet the requirements, you can play. Check out the other threads and the guides in this forum (it has been moved to the Gaming & Gaming Software forum) for more information, thanks.
     
  4. Laptopman101

    Laptopman101 Newbie

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    Hah nice Neuro, i have a very similar one. I have Dell Inspiron 1505 w/ 1GB ram, 80GB HD, 1.83Ghz Core Duo, and 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1400. This should run most games, too, correct?
     
  5. DMB14

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    To give you an idea on how it performs you should know that it's an updated version of the X600, which was a 9700 on PCI-Express. So, it's better then a 9700 and I think not too far behind the X700 and 6600 Go.
     
  6. Chele

    Chele Notebook Consultant

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    you'll be able to play many games with the 1400. I can play the lastest games in my 6400 (even if it's not in the highest settings) very well, like call of duty 2.
     
  7. Aivyn

    Aivyn Notebook Consultant

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    You won't struggle with games until next year most likely. Even they will be able to play at medium/low settings so they may not be as "pretty" but they will still be fun :) im lovin my X1400
     
  8. Tokuman

    Tokuman Notebook Evangelist

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    Double that. I can play Halo 1 on max settings, and online I play with high settings except for aa. I play counter strike source on low settings, so I can get a better FPS rating. I don't care much about eye candy anyway. I just am glad that my card can play every game.
     
  9. maqikelefant

    maqikelefant Notebook Enthusiast

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    I installed the timeshift demo on my new E1505, and the demo absolutely raped my laptop, especially when fire effects were involve. And that's with the X1400, by the way.

    Overall, a pretty good card though, especially if you OC it.
     
  10. sri_1212

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    what do u mean by OC and how do u do that????
     
  11. TwilightVampire

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    OC means overclocking. You need special programs, such as ATI Tray Tools, to overclock.
     
  12. DoubleBlack

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    ATI Tray Tools came with my Omega Drivers, but when I try to open it, I get an error saying:

    Unable to retrive information from BIOS! Please report to developer about your board!

    Am running a Dell E1505...
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I don't believe ATI Tray Tools works with the ATI X1400, so that's why you are getting the error message.

    People have been using PowerStrip to overclock the X1400, it seems to be the only software that works.
     
  14. dfordhiraj

    dfordhiraj Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was also hurt when I heard that X1400 is an 85 corolla. That was a pretty nasty statement though. I just recently ordered a E1505 for my personal use, since E1705 would have been quite bulky for myself

    Is it really bad ?
     
  15. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The X1400 isn't a bad video card at all. It's a well-balanced midrange card that can handle all of the latest games at about medium settings and resolution. What type of gamer are you (occasional, hardcore . .)?
     
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    warrenf Newbie

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    hi, im hearing a lot about the 1400 hypermemory here.. dis enyone try 3dstudio or similar software on it? thanks.
     
  17. PRJMDL

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    Can you expand the shared video memory of the ATI 1400 256mb to 512Mb in an easy way, on a control panel or something? Some other notebook manufacturers show ATI X1400 with 512mb: 128 on the card and 384 shared. I made a post about his issue: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=57574

    Project Mandalorian
     
  18. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    It wouldn't make no difference if you expanded the shared memory to 512MB; the X1400 can only use around 128MB effectively. Hypermemory is a marketing thing really, making something seem better than it actually is.
     
  19. PRJMDL

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    I thought the 512 would help get a better gaming experience. But its OK, I'm just waiting for it to arrive and have FEAR running. I havent played the game just to get better framerates than in my PC. :)

    Thanks a lot
     
  20. jaamki

    jaamki Newbie

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    I am thinking of buying a laptop with the same video card (256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory™ ;). Does anyone know if this supports T&L? (I don't even know what T&L means!)
     
  21. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    T&L stands for Transform and Lighting, the X1400 and all modern (and even several generations old) GPUs support it, with the exception of some integrated chips. Check the guide at the top of the forum for more info on graphics cards.
     
  22. abovethelaw

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    would the 128mb ATI x1400 hypermemory perform a lot worse then the ati x1400 256mb hypermemory when running these same fps games?
     
  23. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Thanks Chaz. I have been referring to that post a lot but I guess I was more focused on the perfomance card list then the rest. Just got through it and that pretty much answered my question.
     
  25. mjeatspies

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    well uh do you think this graphic card can handle something like half life two or F E A R? do you think it can handle something like uhhh.... lets say counter strike source?
     
  26. mjeatspies

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    please help i dont know what graphic card to get is this graphic card good enough to play halo without lag or counter strike source without lag
    or is it even good enough to play half life two or quake 4 or F E A R?
     
  27. mjeatspies

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    Whats an 85 corolla?
     
  28. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It can handle CS:S fine, same with HL2 at high settings. Those are easy games to handle.
    FEAR is much more demanding, you'll have to turn down the settings quite a bit. Medium would probably be fine.
    He's saying that the X1400 was compared to an '85 Toyota Corolla, meaning it is a slow and weak card. It is a midrange card actually; look at the graphics card guide stickied at the top of the forum please.

    Look at the game requirements to see if you can play those games. If it says the game will also work on an X600 or so, it will work fine.
     
  29. prasys

    prasys Notebook Geek

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    We could say X1400 is not a weak as a X300/X200 card and is aint that '1337' or 'powerfulllllllll [yep with all those lllllls] as X1600/X1800. X1400 is just a remake of ATI's X600 , its just that it now supports DirectX 9.0c [Pixel Shader v3.0] and AVIVO Technology. Its just a 'reborn' of ATI X600

    You could play all of the games that are out there at High/Medium settings. Its far more better then other graphics card that are out there. Remember , WYPIWYG [What You Pay is What You Get].
     
  30. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The X1000 series architecture and engineering is much different than that of the previous X600, which was actually a remake of the Mobility Radeon 9700, except with a PCI-express bus. It is not a remake, although the performance isn't too much higher. The X1400 will be better in newer games because of its newer architecture.
     
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    last thing, how would it do in quake 4? i mean the graphic card
     
  33. Charles P. Jefferies

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    It shouldn't have a problem with Quake 4; it supports dual-core processors when you download the patch (google that) and it boosts performance by a good amount.
     
  34. mjeatspies

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    thanks chaz
     
  35. deedeeman

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    Here is a tip for ATI Hypermemory Cards:

    cut any ammount up to 256MB in half if advertised as 'HyperMemory'
    cut any ammount up to 2x 256MB by 3 fourths if advertised as 'Hypermemory'

    example:
    ATI Radeon X1400 with 256MB Hypermemory. Now cut 256 in half. so its actually 128 dedicated+128 Hypermemory.

    but...

    if it advertises:
    ATI Radeon X1400 512MB Hypermemory....you cut by 3 fourths. so its actually 128 dedicated and rest hypermemory
     
  36. malicia

    malicia Newbie

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    Is there any way to make a 128MB ATI Mobility X1300 use shared memory in such a way as 256MB is used for graphics ?
     
  37. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Shared memory is enabled by default on all the latest ATI PCI-express video cards. You won't notice a difference in performance.
     
  38. eyehavenoi

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    Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I am considering purchasing the X1400 with my new Dell laptop. I was wondering how the X1400 compares to Nvidia's GeForceGo 7300 TurboCache. They're both 256MB, the GeForce costs $30 more.
     
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    Oh crap...

    In that case, would I be able to play World of Warcraft with a 256MB ATI Mobility radeon X1400 with hypermemory?
     
  41. jshadoww

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    I'm not an expert on notebooks, or graphics cards, but I recently bought a dell e1505 with this card. I'm pretty sure it will run world of warcraft by looking at the requirements.

    Requirements:
    32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as NVIDIA® GeForce™ 2 class card or above

    Recommended:
    64 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5700 class card or above

    ---so to answer your question, I think yes. But I don't know about the "Hardware Transform and Lighting" hopefully someone who knows will answer, because I have the same question.


    Edit: To quote Chaz from earlier in this thread


    So Yes It meets and surpasses the requirements and recommended specs for graphics cards. I'm not even an expert on any of this, and I was able to figure this out with fairly little research.
     
  42. dell inspiron 6400

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    hello, I have been observing this discussion for quite some time. I have a Dell inspiron 6400, with 2gb of ddr2 RAM, and a 256MB ATI MobilityTM Radeon® X1400 HyperMemory.

    I went to bestbuy and told the guy I wanted to update my video card to a Radeon mobility x1600 or 1800. He said it was fine, and I bought a Radeon mobility x1600.

    I have ripped open my laptop, but I cant seem to find where I am supposed to install the little graphics chip.

    Please help me, I fear i have done permanent damage to my laptop computer.
     
  43. TwilightVampire

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    He scammed you. You cant upgrade most laptops video. If you can post some pictures of what you've done so far, we may be able to help you further
     
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    If you cant replace most laptop vido cards, then why do they sell laptop video cards?
     
  45. dell inspiron 6400

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    I seem to have found an ATI chip in my laptop. I am going to try and loosen it and replace it with this new chip (they look almost identical). I am sure that ounce i replace chips it will work!
     
  46. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I'd be really interested in seeing some pictures of the graphics chip you bought (I'm surprised they knew what you were talking about in the first place, and even more surprised it is not a desktop card that they sold you).

    Let's suppose you do get that graphics chip installed . . two prominent issues I can think of right off the bat that you are going to face:
    -Getting the laptop to even recognize the chip at all - the motherboard's BIOS may not support it.
    -Thermal issues - the X1600 produces more heat than the X1400, and normally laptop cooling systems are not made with much headroom, especially Dell's since they want to keep the cost down as much as possible.
     
  47. dell inspiron 6400

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    Wow, I just slipped the Radeon x1600 in place of the x1400. Closed everything up. Turned on laptop.

    Said new hardware detected and installed in.

    No problems so far.

    I didnt think there would be as X1400 and x1600 basically look the same.

    The only concern is that my laptop may overheat b/c of new chip.

    Does this modification void my 3 year service and maintainance coverage? :(

    ****, when i ordered this machine 2 months ago i really should have payed a little bit extra for the NVIDIA chip, or else I wouldnt have had to go through all this trouble.

    Dell wouldnt help me and give me information on upgrading my video card. I dont understand why upgrading the laptop video card is so taboo?

    I am now thinking i should have bought the 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS as i know the BIOS will recognize it b/c Dell offers it in their Inspiron 9400 (I might be wrong on this though)
     
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    This is something Ive been trying to find out as well. I did hear that the 9400 (E1705)will accept the 7900 gs gpu but will it work on the E1505 (6400) ??
     
  49. matiases

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    also the same question for me as well as nmstang218's at above.
    will someone answer his question?
     
  50. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Yes, I'd also like to see some pictures of this. IIRC, Dell uses a specialised socket for their GPUs so that you can't do this sort of thing.
     
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