260m SLI vs 5870m

Comparing benches, these two perform roughly the same. What is the maximum (OCed) Vantage GPU score anybody has achieved with the 260 SLI?

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-260M-SLI.18909.0.html

Sorry my scores are higher than these 260M SLI scores on every benchmark.

 

5870 wins period.. get it.

 

overclocked hd5870 wins.

mandrake got over 10k in 3dmark vantage

 

Yup Ati 5870 all the way!!!

 

That makes absolutely no sense. You said it yourself Eazy E, if a 5870 would get an average of 30FPS in, say, Crysis, then the GTX 260M would get an average of 25FPS, right? By that logic, two 260M's in SLI should be getting 40FPS average, better than the 5870. I know that's not always the case, as some games utilize SLI better than others, but you would think that on average the GTX 260M SLI system would do better (assuming they have the same processor, of course).

If I were the OP, I'd still get the 5870. DX11 and the amount of power it saves compared to the 260M SLI is too good to pass up, particularly at that price (Asus G73 - $1600).

 

Howcome your examining overclocked runs?

What you should be examining is top performance runs on default clocks between the two.

The 5870 is a good option though because you dont have to worry about scaling on the card etc etc, you will just be able to use the full power of it, and like czx states, DX11, a ton of power, and some great machines out with the card, its too hard to pass up.

 

Also now , the X3 version of G73 which is way cheaper at around $1300 is out.. has 640GB hard drive space but pretty much same specs....

 

The thing about the 5870 is that since it's a single card instead of dual, you should get higher minimum framerates. In other words, even if the GTX260M SLI setup gets you 50fps average while the 5870 gets you 45fps, the 5870 might still feel smoother because the framerate shouldn't dip as low. Then obviously there's DX11, lower power consumption, less heat, etc.

 

Well why not bench the two against each other? The 5870 mobile is only a desktop 5770. I have used a desktop 5770 myself and I am not impressed at all by it´s performance. The 5770 is no better in performance than a desktop GTX 260 except that 5770 has DX11. Yes I have compared GTX 260 to a 5770 side by side since I have two desktops one with a GTX 260 and another with 5770 and a Core I5 2.66GHz.

 

ROFL, you forget the GTX 260 is a G200 while GTX 260M is G92. Completely different.

Try comparing the 9800 to the HD5770, that's what you are looking at here. But you never know, biased benchmarks can be pretty horrid. Guru3d morons managed to create benchmarks where the 8800 beat the HD5870....

 

and you forgot that sli 8800gt is faster than a single 260 which is slightly faster than a single 5770.
i'd still pick the mr 5870 though, it's far more efficient, no dual card hassle and will probably be cheaper.

 

Wrong sorry. HD5870 is faster than SLI 8800 just as it's faster than SLI 260

 

5870m is the best option, but fps wise, sli 260 will give you more.

You compared your own benchmarks with the sli 260 ones in notebookcheck. not the same.

 

Ziddy your sounding like a fanboy. Did the STEALTH get to you? 9800 gtx SLI is faster than 5770.

 

No I'm not. The few benchmarks I can find for the SLI 260M, my HD5870 beats them. That's it, plain and simple. Hard to find since really only the m17x had it and that was short lived as 280 SLI and 4870 CF were released. So for the few definitive benchmarks I can for SLI 260M, HD5870M wins. And the 260M is actually more similar to 9600 not 9800.

BTW, OP the HD5870 was released on Cross-Fire for the Alienware m17x all over Europe, so should be coming to US sometime soon. Hopefully can see those in Clevo also if you really want a beast.

I have not seen maximum benchmarks with the GTX 260M yet. But if you do find them, you'll have to compare to the maximum benchmarks for the HD5870 which you can find in the Alienware and Clevo forums where users have overclocked the HD5870M to 900 clock with vantage scores well over 10,000

And mew1838, I regularly game with 800/1100.

 

"Compared with Desktop graphic cards, the performance is about at the level of the GeForce 9800 GT (600/1500/900)."

Getting on my nerves now....

 

It's pretty simple, to see stock and overclocked runs of 260 SLI's the M17x for a brief period had a flurry of benches here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sho...14&highlight=*OFFICIAL*+M17x+Benchmark+Thread

Three things become clear in that;

1. SLI 260's ran on par with the 5870 both scoring anywhere from 8k-10k, though the 5870 seems to have beaten the SLI 260's in GPU Vantage for the overall high score thrown up in that thread.

2. As someone mentioned before the high's and lows of the 260SLI are much more dramatic, in essence the 5870 seems to offer a more stable higher FPS looking at DMC, Crysis runs ect.

3. People havent really factored in how notoriously unstable the 260SLI is, it's known for stuttering, DPC latency spikes, and in general inconsistent performance.

I think it's pretty clear the 5870 seems to be on par, and even wins in benchmarks (overclocked), stability and the sheer fact having one GPU to dual GPU's is MUCH more preferable/less maintainance.

 

Sorry missed the GT instead of GTX. But those clock speeds are way faster than the 260M still.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_260m_us.html

Getting on my nerves also...

 

Ah so you don´t believe my benchmarks then? Well the GTX 260 desktop that is have almost double the bandwidth of the desktop 5770. Well dream in your ATI fanboy world, you do sound more and more like a fanboy to me, no use to argue with fanboys.

 

No use to argue with Nvidia fanboys either. We aren't talking about desktop GTX 260...

BTW both your Vantage and 3DMark06 scores are pathetic compared to my ATi Fanboy World HD5870M. Even with stock settings, your OC'd 8800 SLI pales in comparison.

Keep the insults coming. See how my point of my Vantage 3DMark06 to your 8800 SLI means nothing to this discussion since we are not talking about your 8800? Maybe apply that to your contribution to this thread.

GT 9800 SLI is faster than HD5870M. Yeah no kidding, it's still a beast setup today. Unfortunately, GTX 260M is nowhere close to being as fast as the GT 9800 SLI. Same architecture, very different speeds. Which is the same as HD5770 would the HD5870M. Same architecture, same memory, but a wide margin in speed.

If the GTX 260M was definitively faster than HD5870 I would concede. But so far the numbers argue in my favor. This in fact makes you the Fanboy not me. Arguing with stupid correlations that don't work and without any proof.

Notebook Check has 260M SLI Vantage 8800
My HD5870 Vantage is 9026.

I saw somewhere 260M SLI 1200p Crysis 35 FPS
My HD5870 108p Crysis 34.1

I don't see the evidence that 260M is faster than the HD5870.

 

Yeah I have no idea why this guy is resorting to desktop architecture to make retorts...

There are tons benchmarks and proof including many in the link I provided in the page before that clearly show the 5870 is on par and indeed very slightly better overclocked then the 260SLI, period. (for MOBILE cards )

 

ok stop the flaming but fact is , 5870 has superior architecture and is way better than a 2 year old tech based GTX260M SLI...

 

It was me who took desktop into consideration since the mobile 5870 is a desktop 5770. Which as I said I have myself in a desktop computer and I am not impressed with it.

Oh so you have to be an even more fanboy, your 5870 beats my 8800m GTX SLI, no kidding I didn´t know that, glad you enlightened me on that matter.

Well I never talked about my XPS M1730 at all, you just had to take that into discussion, you couldn´t resist could you. Yeah of course compare a 2 year old laptop to a new one and especially with a Core2Duo 2.4GHz against a Core I7 CPU and faster memory and bus, you are just to funny. However there is no game I struggle with at all with my 2 year old XPS M1730, so see what a 2 year old notebook still can push at 1920x1200. Now of course I have tweaked my system to the limit.

 

Hmm what does the 5870m bench in Far Cry 2 Ultra Settings and DX10? I know the sager with 9800m GTX SLI, I think it was johnkss sager that averaged around 70+ fps in the benchmark using those settings. If the 5870m averages around that is the question.

 

thread is getting past way what it's even supposed to be about.

It's pretty simple, a 5870 is equal to 260SLI, but everyone knows there's no point to getting dual cards if the performance of one card equals it (or is even better overclocked which the 5870 is), that's not even counting in the stuttering and latency problems with the 260's.

 

I don't get what's all this fuss about. Why would anyone spend money on two cards to compete with 1 which equals them or even outperforms them. A 5870 has more overclock potential, less heat, superior arhitecture, supports dx11, and is known to keep constant fps on most of the games, while 260 stutters. Really, what's the point to argue about it? Ati has done a much better job, congratz to them, live with it. Nvidia has made a come-back with fermi, but they heat like hell, cost a fortune and consume a lot of energy. And still, they don't deliver that much performance to have such a price. I would still go with ati anytime.

 

Done here.