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    285's vs 4870's Benchmarks (Pic Heavy)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Pman, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    As alot of you know Dondah and I have squared up to compare the top 2 sli systems

    Here we go round 1

    Re 5 maxed

    SLI 285's

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    4870's

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    285's

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    4870's

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    for some reason my machine really ranks on test 4, might try some different drivers...unless there is a known reason for this anyone?

    I think if i had reasonable performance in test 4 its a victory for the 285's in this round at least

    All these benches are at stock
     
  2. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i experenced the same with my 280m gtx sli when i had it with re5.

    i got internet back so i can upload my pics now.

    your cpu is so much more faster then mine. i will have to overclock my cpu to go up against you.
     
  3. nobodyshero

    nobodyshero Notebook Speculator

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    How can you compare 285's against 4870's in benchmarks that also include CPU margins and make no distinction between the performance the of the CPU and GPU? No wonder you were a little overeager to go against Don, deck is kind of stacked doing those benches against an inferior CPU....

    If you're going to a do a true 4870 vs 285, stick with Vantage
     
  4. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    How can you call it a victory for the 285's when they drop so precipitously in some areas? The 4870's stay playable across the whole range. Good that the 285's have higher top scores, but if they have lower minimum framerates that translates directly to a much worse gaming experience. Who cares if you get 100 or 90fps? Nobody can tell. But as soon as you start comparing 38fps and 65fps, you start having issues.

    Given your numbers, it certainly looks like the 4870's are better cards for all games/graphics that you throw at them, rather than just blazingly fast in certain areas.
     
  5. nobodyshero

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    He never called it a victory, he has yet to declare anything, but that's the thing why play a competition when the decks already stacked against you to lose because of the CPU?

    Somebody like Renghsey who has 4870's AND the i7 920 would be alot better....
     
  6. Pman

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    I cant overclock my at the moment, the bios is unstable with an overclock until Clevo fix it

    For the record i have declared no victory, simply that bar one area the 285's appear stronger there

    As for the amount of influence the CPU has, unknown
     
  7. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    we shall see when more people join r2's join in but it should affect the fps for the 4870.......
     
  8. nobodyshero

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    It's not only about the CPU being unbalanced here... the new chipsets in the R2 and the 8100 run SLI and Xfire cards smoother/faster.
     
  9. Pman

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    Dondah and i will be doing a different bench each day

    tomorrow we will be putting up Far Cry 2 benchmarks :)
     
  10. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Absolutely agree. It's the lowest FPS that determine whether or not the cards are good or bad.
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

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    The results will vary by game.....it is no secret that some games favor ATI and others Nvidia....the cards are about matched taking this into account. That neglects the fact that the ATIs handle AA much better and DX10.1 and the Nvidias can do PhysX though.

    The difference in CPUs is also way to large to ignore...it is nearly a 2x margin of performance in some situations.
     
  12. dondadah88

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    yes i have seen what the i920 can do and it isn't a joke. lol.
     
  13. lozanogo

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    Soooo, finally which card won? Or the conclusion will be a simple... "it all depends what else you have or game you´re playing"?
     
  14. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    It seems overall the 4870 is a more solid GPU than the GTX 285m. Looking forward to the Far Cry 2 benchmarks, oh also put up Crysis benchmark please. I am very eager to get a notebook with dual 4870´s :)
     
  15. Pitabred

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    Wait a few months and I'd bet that there are dual 5870's on their way ;) DX11 + improved performance = win.
     
  16. dondadah88

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    fc2 is coming later. I sebt him my fc2 score already. Just waiting for him to install it, run it sign in and post it up.
     
  17. sean473

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    yup looks like 4870 is winning... but really the CPU is unbalanced... we really need someone with core i7-920xm and ATI 4870 crossfire to have more accurate results..
     
  18. Pman

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    im installing now and will put em in front page shortly
     
  19. Pman

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    can confirm that 5870's in xfire are not part of clevo's plan so no chance for me to get em, they are focusing on other things

    shame really
     
  20. grbac

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    Is it possible to do only the first 3 Areas benchmark exluding the one where nvidia performs poorly?
     
  21. cookinwitdiesel

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    What is the overclocking headroom on the GTX 285m's? What is their stock voltage?

    I am curious to know if there are any actual differences between them and the GTX 280m's that were used before. I was able to take my GTX 280m's up to 680/1700/1080 in my M17x with 1.07V. Do the GTX 285m's go much further or see the same limit?
     
  22. Pman

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    at the moment i have an issue with sli and am doing a vbios flash to correct it

    hence the lack of fc2 last night

    but in general i got it up to 700/1720/1080 but i havent really pushed hard yet, although temps at full what dont breach 70 so i may consider a vbios edit to raise the voltage if that is possible safely
     
  23. sean473

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    aren't there going to be more benchmarks?
     
  24. naticus

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    So...where are all the pics in this pic heavy pic thread?