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    3.5 gb + 0.0 gb = 4 gb

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by gtx980m3.5gb, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. gtx980m3.5gb

    gtx980m3.5gb Notebook Enthusiast

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    gtx 980m only had 3.5 gb??

    [​IMG]

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    Did you have some VRAM in use so all could not be allocated?
     
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    gtx980m3.5gb Notebook Enthusiast

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    i dunno @Dufus
    just checking vramtest with that tool several times only 3.5 gb
    i have optimus laptop
    is it normal?
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Your card seems to be working fine. It has 4GB's of VRAM.

    1. Press the Windows Key + I and enter the Control Panel.
    2. Under the Appearance and Personalization, click Adjust screen resolution.
    3. On the middle of the right-hand side of the screen, click the Advanced settings.
    4. A new window should appear with your video adapter's properties; similar to the image shown below.
    5. Your video card's memory is under the Adapter tab in the Dedicated Video Memory section (shown below).

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2015
  7. gtx980m3.5gb

    gtx980m3.5gb Notebook Enthusiast

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    [​IMG]
    this is mine
    on aida64 it only had 3 gb vram
    [​IMG]
     
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    krizzjaa Notebook Guru

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    why even bother with a throw away account?
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i am using latest drivers for windows 10 @J.Dre
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'd say it's more likely a software issue of it not recognizing it in Windows 10. Your card is fine.
     
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    ok i hope it just a software issue or i'll just get double kill(my970&my980m) from nvidia
    thank you for your help man
     
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    As far as I remember, that software you ran TC that tests memory, is useless. It doesn't work with Optimus, nor does it take into account any vram reserved by the OS or for anything. The way people found out about the whole fiasco with GTX 970 was not with that software, as you could literally stress test with games and saturate memory.

    Mobile versions of maxwell do not have the same memory division, and we have full ROPs and all.
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    NO CARD OTHER THAN THE GTX 970 HAS THE ISSUE.
    ALL MOBILE CARDS HAVE FULL VRAM ACCESS.

    The test is designed to stop before maxing out your vRAM. For some reason it feels your vRAM is smaller than it actually is, so it's stopping the test early around 3.2GB. If you feel your notebook is faulty, I'd suggest pointing the issue out to your manufacturer and asking for a replacement, or an explanation. The 980M cards themselves have no fault by design.
     
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    so i got 3 answers from 3 reputable guys here
    i'd say i am safe
    i'll note this as software issue
    many thanks guys...
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just download 3DMark and bench your system from time to time. You can also use monitoring software while gaming (e.g. MSI Afterburner) which will tell you how much VRAM is being utilized. 90% of the time, you'll never reach 4GB's of VRAM usage in any game. Few games use more than 3GB's at 1080p.

    Yes, my bad. I knew that it didn't have this issue, I was just trying to say that NVIDIA has cleverly designed Maxwell to be able to disable ROP modules.

    I've removed that from my post to not confuse anyone... My apologies, again.
     
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    i'll try and post my result
     
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    here is my 3dmark firestriker high performance 1080p default

    [​IMG]

    my cpu si too weak,isn't it?
     
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    @gtx980m3.5gb open GPU-z and select sensor tab then run the attached.
     

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    this is my result
    [​IMG]

    dunno what am i suppose to do
     
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    That was quick. :)

    GPUMem tries allocate all available VRAM leaving 1KB free. You can see in the screen shot there is no memory left to allocate (0 - Free) but you have used less than 3.5GB with 4GB total. Don't know if this is a W10 thing or not. Maybe one of the other guys with 980m can try see what they get.
     
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    i am just confused by my card and here i am trying to find some helpful information from members
    i am trying to reply as fast as possible to respect all of your respon
    4 notable members confirmed it as software/os issue
    thank you
     
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    Here's a desktop 2GB card using W10 and 9.18.13.4411 DX11.2

    112.png


    And W10 using 10.18.13.5362 DX12

    12.png

    As you can see we loose a large percentage of available VRAM. Don't know if that's to do with DX12 or not.
     
  24. Eindru

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    This is interesting. I have a potentially failing 880m. Could running this test diagnose faulty vram if it cannot fill the memory correctly?

    Was really hoping to not have to start another thread.
     
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    Seems like Windows 10 is the culprit. No idea why.
     
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    WDDM changes in Windows 10 are causing VRAM usage to be reported incorrectly
     
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    I actually wasn't speaking directly to you XD.
     
  28. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Maybe tied with this?
    This section describes new features for driver development in Windows 10
    There's a new registry entry for the 10 drivers that appears to handle just that:
    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers\\MemoryManager]
    "DxgMms2OfferReclaim"=dword:00000002
    "DmaBufferBytesLimitAllDevices"=dword:20000000
    "DmaBufferListBytesLimitAllDevices"=dword:10000000
    Might tinker with the values and see what's what ...

    Really like those ' DxgMms2OfferReclaim'-type strings, btw; kinda like a puzzle ... Direct x graphic Memory manager ... errr ... something-something :vbtongue: .
     
  29. Ethrem

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    This has gone far enough. NVidia themselves have come out and said they have 3.5GB for regular GPU usage 500MB of "slower" memory (slower than system caching apparently)... If you take any further issue or have any other proof that nVidia is lying, feel free to PM it to me. This is the notebook forum, however, and while I could move it to desktop I will not do so unless I see a consolidated PM of proof. Post closed. There is nothing showing any mobile card having less than advertised.