3DMark 11

Hey guys, with the new 3D mark 11 out now, I was wondering how our laptops fare. I ran the basic edition in performance preset withn my usual 880/1030 clocks for a quick look at it. I must say the graphics look impressive though it makes my laptop choke on its legs heh.

My current score is: P2485 3DMarks

Detailed results (Performance settings, capped at 1280x720 res):

Graphics score: 2313
Physics Score: 4240
Combined Score: 2346
GraphicsTest1: 11.83 FPS
GraphicsTest2: 11.49 FPS
GraphicsTest3: 13.6 FPS
GraphicsTest4: 6.56 FPS
PhysicsTest: 13.46 FPS
CombinedTest: 10.91 FPS

I guess it is time to upgrade eh?

 

I don't think that it will run on my laptop .... & if it did I assume that I wont be getting more than 1 fps per test

 

Probably won't run because it does require DX11 cards which means only fermi and HD5000 gpus can participate.

I already get low fps haha. I guess mid range GPUs should stick to vantage, as 11 is already kicking our high end arses.

 

curious to see how the 460m runs on this since it supposedly runs dx11 better than the 5870m does

 

AMD doesn't too bad on this. The new HD6870 shows they have improved tessellation a lot. For a card that is about 3 times less than a GTX 580, not bad. A GTX 580 scores around P6161

P4157
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/946;jsessio.../3dm11/946?key=STDCUNSXDJMwHSASemet55UQm9XsMS

The king of 3DMark 11 is still AMD. The HD5970 remains the reigning king in Futuremark synthetic benchmarks, sorry if that burst your bubble.
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/7124

All things equal, both HD5xxx and HD6xxx and GTX 4xx and GTX 5xx score about the same. The difference with 3DMark 11 is that the physics runs off of CPU with Futuremarks in house physics engine and they use bullet physics on soft physics on GPU. So this time around, your CPU matters a lot, can add 1000 points to your score.
HD6870 GPU score = 4000, GTX 480 GPU score = 4800 | HD6870 is about half the cost of GTX 480

There is a confusion over tessellation. Tessellation is just hardware, but how it's implemented is what matters. AMD optimized their tessellation to run at 4x4 and 16x16 whereas Nvidia wants everything to run at 1x1 pixel level. This leads to horrible things like ROPs only being used 10% and every pixel being shaded 8X more than it needs to be etc.

This article here explains why Nvidia tessellation is idiotic and a disservice to everyone and why AMD chose to optimize the way they did.

AMD Radeon HD 6870 & HD 6850 Review - Page 4

But yes this information is from AMD. Believe what you want, I believe AMD more than Nvidia marketing personally.

 

I'm not worried about the 3DMark 11 scores. I personally think Tessellation will be just a fad and is a step backwards. I don't see the future of 3D in tessellation, it's proving to be extremely inefficient.

 

Let's not turn this into an nvidia vs AMd war but more like a simple fight between GPUs.

I like the 460m but only when overcloked. I feel the stock clocks are too "safe" and the card would really shine if O/C properly.

the 460m should definitely score higher, because the tests do include tessalation, so I am expecting higher scores. Sadly, I doubt they will be that much higher, as there are other things going on.

 

Marketing is just that marketing, items like this released from both camps is neither true or false. 90% of the time, the marketing put forward by both the Red and Green camp are both based on facts and scientific study. But you have to take into account that it is not from a neutral source, and no matter what you do about it, it will always be skewed to favor the 1st party releasing the information.

Now having read the article, and keeping what I just said in mind you can't say
"ATI > NVIDIA" but what you can say is "Under these particular circumstances ATI is > than NVIDIA" and vice versa.

Going to be testing when I get home, w/ and w/o OC. I haven't tweaked my OC too much (spent about 15 min on it) I'm running a Real World stable 800/1475/1400. I've been meaning to test things a little further but time is my enemy this days.

 

Ah shoot if that's what your 5870 gets then my 5650 is doooooomed!

 

I'm still going to run it just to see how bad my score is.


*goes to get a fire extinguisher in case of spontaneous combustion*

 

Hay im getting the 5650, it will run just at lower speed is all. Let me guess, p890 or something.

 

I have a i7 720QM and a 5730 and I had an average of 5 FPS in GPU tests ( in one GPU test I had 6 ) and 10 FPS in PhysX and 5 in combined. When it finished, when showing the score, it errord me and didn't show my score :<
It must be around P1500 I guess.

 

hey guys,
I own an acer notebook with i5 430m, 4gb of Ram and HD5650 (clocked 650/850). I got the latest driver for my card 10.4 (there are no newer ati drivers yet). I have a problem with 3d mark 11 and the aspect ratio. My display has 1366:720 (hd ready) the basic benchmark runs in 720p (1280*720) but both the left and right side of the screen are black and the aspect ratio of 3d mark (bench/demo) is compressed (something like 3:4). Can anyone help me? my final score is P1173. Thanks!

 

It is normal. I have that too.
Also, you are a tiiinyyyy bit outdated... The latest ati driver is 10.11, and in some days 10.12
Here you have them http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx

NOTE : IT IS FOR WIN 7 64 BIT! IF YOU DONT HAVE IT, DONT DOWNLOAD THAT PACKAGE, CHOOSE THE OTHER OS FROM THE ATI.COM SITE.

 

Cannot divide by 0, hence the error.

 

Welcome to Instant Rimshot

I'm going to try it in a little while. I have 10.10 drivers. Let's see if that makes a difference.

... Though, I know that my resolution makes the score next to useless for comparison purposes, unless I cut it in half or something.

 

OH NOES!
The error consisted of failing to connect to Futuremark... Fail!
BTW : Why don't I get a stable OC when I OC my 5730's memory clock from 800 to 900? I start getting artifacts. If I OC the core from 650 to 750, will there be a difference?

 

i know im outdated. Unless I'm very much mistaken on the amd/ati driver website is no newer driver for the HD5650 and win7x64 available than 10.4. On the site is just a data about 1.1 mb. Isn't it to small? usally i was looking for something about 90mb (ccc included).

edit: 1.1mb for a driver-downloader. Good to know xD

 

If you have Win 7 x64 then follow this link to install the latest drivers ( official ATi website )
ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver
Download the drivers, and install them. They gave me a huge FPS boost!

BTW, welcome to the forums!

 

The current mobility driver is 10.11 on AMD's website.

 

I'm installing right now but still wondering about why there is no direct download on the page for the whole 92mb package.

edit: nice forum

 

Have you OC'd your GPU? Will you OC it sometime?

 

Because :
First, you download the installer from the ATi site. Then, the installer downloads the suite ( drivers, CCC, etc ).
Capiche?

 

Right now, I don't have enough headroom in terms of temps to OC. (During gaming, GPU hits 78C and CPU goes to 87-90C.) If the cooler I'm getting can cut temps by, say, 10C, however, I'll give it a try.

 

Ha, is it a notebook cooler? I have one : only decreases by 1C lol.
But, do you have any idea, if I oc it to 750MHz from 650MHz, will I have a siginificant FPS win ( like 10 more FPS? )

 

My score was only P1960 ? why so low ?
my screen res was set at 1280p but still ? seems low

 

The fan(s) might not be hitting your vents well.

And 10 FPS in 11 might be asking a bit much.

 

Odd... I will run the bench again tomorrow, and will post the results.
And having p2000 points is already good, I guess

 

Really , that doesnt seem very good, maybe for a lower specs rig but my specs are really good lol (AW in Sig)

 

Then I ain't OC'ing. I'm happy with my 150-200 FPS in TF2 and 80-120 FPS in L4D2

And my fans are hitting my whole PC. it's a tri fan : hitting the vent, the CPU/GPU/RAM, and hitting the optical drive.

 

Result

lolwut

P541? I think something's wrong here.

 

Scores are ok. Laptops don't stand a chance.

 

Jesus Christ. You never miss a chance to bash nVidia, do you?


Anyway, downloading right now. Since I'll probably be distracted before this gets finished downloading ("Ooh, shiny!") I'll post results when I can.

How are temperatures? Does it run hotter than an equivalent 3DMark06 or 3DMarkVantage run?

 

You might have good specs for a laptop but compared to desktops it is weak.

 

Something is I got P1210 on HD5650 OCed to 670/900 paired with Core i5 430M

 

Does it need to have Aero on to give proper results or something?

Seriously, it's weird. I just ran it again to make sure, and I got P538. I don't think it was even really pushing the GPU since the max temp was 66C; 10-12C lower than when gaming. The CPU reached 89C, but thinking about it, it usually goes to 95C when gaming if I have Turbo Boost on.

 

It could be the GPU was locked in UVD speed...

Btw with Acer 7740G with stock i3-330M + Mobility HD5730 it is P1038 marks.

 

@ City Pig

Check it the freqs are proper gaming ones or maybe power-saving ones.
You may be in power saving mode in PowerPlay settings.

 

But that can't be it, since I've never messed with those settings.

Oh, I forgot to mention that the screen was letterboxed, and only about a third of the screen was used during the test. A glitch perhaps?

 

Same for me- I still don't know how the benchmark really looks Cramped for all I know.

 

Ah. So weird.

Did you have your driver set for performance in all settings under 3D in CCC? I had some set for balance, and I wonder if that was it...

 

No I didn't change driver quality settings- that wouldn't be fair.
Mine are set like they were by default which is probably balanced.

 

Of course a desktop is more powerful, i didnt say anything about that.

 

Hm. Well, maybe it's HP's driver.

On another note, look at the clocks and the graphics card it says it is. lol

Result

 

P1180 was what I got with my i5-520m and 5650 (OC'd to 650/950) with catalyst 10.11.

I used basic edition so could only have default quality settings.

- Result -

 

Hm. Since I'm on stock clocks, maybe my score is correct.

... Then again, I did just notice something odd. I haven't used GPU-Z in a while, and I just used it to look at my clocks. Here's what's funny: it's picking up clocks for my GMA HD in addition to the 5650's clocks, which it never did before. I was using an older driver last time I used GPU-Z. I think that some type of glitch with the switchable graphics is causing the GMA HD to run, bottlenecking performance. I think I need to reinstall the driver.

 

Here is mine:
Result

 

Your physics score is very low.

 

My Sig Rig's results.

I am running Forceware 263.09

With out GPU OC
675/1350/1250

With my GPU OC
810/1620/1450

If you exclude the laptops with desktop procs at the moment I have the highest GTX 460m score .

But it looks like the ati m 5870 wins so far, I'm excited to see what a 470m can do!

 

Not that bad, but I expected a bit more. hmmm... specially from the OC'd result.

470m should be around my score then, and 480m should be a bit higher.

Oh well, lets see what Barts brings to the tables when Hd6900m launches.