3DMark Performance

Hi all,

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5207079

This is the 3DMark score for my gaming laptop. All CPU and GPU are all base clock. But I noticed my combined score is very low and that during the combined test, I had low FPS like approx 15FPS. Is there a problem?

Thank You very much!

DenNarwhal

 

Everything is fine.

 

does your computer function okay for you everyday? If so why would you let some score tell you if your computer is okay or not?

 

I would say you are power throttling because your problem is only in the combined score where both of your GPUs and CPU are being taxxed.

Maybe your PSU has a problem

 

I have basically the same machine... For some reason combined test tanks even with our 330W PSUs. Your score isn't bad...its about what I had with 880Ms. Run a real benchmark like 3DMark11 and come back physics is a big mess in 3DMark14...

 

I know right?

It's really weird

 

I didn´t know about the Physics in FireStrike (3DMark14). Is this why some are still comparing 3Dmark11? I guess graphic score in Firestrike is ok?

 

Your best bet is to use 3DMark11 period. But ask @Mr. Fox he's the one who pointed it out to me.

 

3DMark Fire Strike is a great test for assessing GPU performance alone, but the overall scoring formula is problematic. The CPU (physics) performance has little weight in the overall score. The physics score itself is useful, but you can easily get a false impression of overall system "beastiness" by looking at the overall score. Sky Diver is actually a more meaningful holistic system test than Fire Strike is.

But, yes, 3DMark 11 is still the best, and Vantage behind that IMHO. Both of them give a more accurate holistic view of how stout any system is because CPU performance weighs heavily in the overall score calculation, and both are more strenuous system-wide tests. You cannot get an impressive-looking 3DMark 11 or Vantage score by having a cheap computer with good GPU(s), but with Fire Strike you can. That's why I call it a "fluffy, feel good" benchmark.

Fire Strike results can also be deceptive because it is engineered to favor Windows 8.X (perhaps for marketing reasons). 3DMark 11 casts a huge spotlight on the fact that Windows 8.X has significant CPU performance-crippling issues. If you have any kind of issue with proper CPU, GPU or memory overclock tuning or system stability, 3DMark 11 is far more likely to freeze or crash, or cause a BSOD. It has a low tolerance for errors, whereas Fire Strike might successfully complete and give you a nice number to look at.

 

Also 11 is the ultimate test for power draw. I remember when I ran 11 with 880Ms at 1100 core and freaked because the system shut off and the light on the brick did too. Thought I killed it for sure. Again the Fox made me realized I hit the over current and calmed me down and it worked after a few minutes.

Long story short, 11 just does everything better. I did a test on the 4K fire strike and it peaked at 350W... Regular 720P 11 peaked at 389W

 

I have actually seen a max of 675W in 3DMark 11 Test #1 on the Clevo P570WM with 4930K and 980M SLI overclocked. With the M18xR2 3920XM and 780M SLI I have seen peaks of 625W in Test #1. In both cases, this is with the systems pushed to the edge of their overclocked functional limitations using AC cooling.

 

Well I haven't tested since I switched to Prema again... But I haven't overloaded the one brick so I'd imagine draw is the same... Especially since the voltage is the same. But I also got tired of fighting with Burnswell and just decided to do a -80mv undervolt instead of worrying about temps... So full load is 3.6-3.7... And that's fine because I have a 4.7 desktop. Cards are at +100/+100 on stock ASIC voltage...

 

3DMark 11, Furmark, Cinebench.

That's how we bench efficiently

 

Wait a minute. Since when did you guys go Clevo's.. I clearly remember Alienware team here (most def. you Fox!)

(sorry for off-topic, but had to ask)

 

I replaced my M17xR1 with a P377SM-A because when I went to order the Alienware 18 I ordered an M290X CF system, came here and found out what the M290X was, and then spent two hours trying to talk to dell's outsourced customer service to get it cancelled... Went to a well known resellers site and saw that I could get the machine I wanted for about 1200 cheaper with more storage and a 120hz screen. Didn't look back.

 

Yeah, not any more. I still have an 18, M18xR1 and M18xR2. The older machines are the best laptops in the world. The 18 could have been amazing, but they crippled it and have refused to fix a few problems this model (and Alienware 17) have had since day one. Now, all they sell is trash with BGA CPU and GPU and seriously crippled on top of being BGA trash. So, yeah, switching to Clevo was a fairly easy decision. To described it more accurately, I would say abandoned and left for dead, but found a new home in Clevo. There are not many places to go unless you're a compromiser, traitor, or just don't know any better.

Alienware is not alone in being masters of garbage. With very few exceptions, just about of Alienware's direct competition is selling exclusively worthless feces as well. ASUS, MSI, Lenovo, Aorus, Envy, Razer, and even some of what Clevo sells... just about all of it falls under my category that begins with the letter "S" but cannot be posted due to forum rules. Many of the enthusiasts you know in this community have gone back to desktops because laptops have turned to such pathetic over-the-top sucky trash. I think there may be 3 Clevo models worth buying today, and one of them I find unacceptable because it is not dual GPU.

 

Well this turned grim fast.. and here I thought Alienware would keep improving, oh well.

But I know, still sitting on my MSI 1762 (customed by @pau1ow) and Clevo W860cu and not going anywhere for a very long time due well reasoned decisions.

 

I predict Alienware will either figure out its trendy ideas are flawed and undesirable, and go back to making awesome machines like they used to, or they will be gone in less than two years. They crapped on the people that loved them most and spent the most on their products. Not a good business plan. Even the new Area 51 desktop was screwed up with proprietary design crap. Chassis is nice, but crippling hardware and controlling enthusiasts is never acceptable. Thought they might have had some business leaders smart enough to know better, but apparently not.

 

I vividly remember back when Alienware wasn't owned by Dell... good times until 2006.

They had some pretty cool laptops. First of a kind 15" colored keyboard, with their one-of-a-kind unique AlienFX software IIRC and Alien stencil with bold outline on the back. Those were selling like hot bread early WW2.

EDIT: Formatting

 

Dell actually made them better than they ever were before. The M17xR2, M18xR1 and M18xR2, and even the 18 in spite of its serious flaws, are the best laptops ever made in the history of computers. They are superior in almost every way to my Clevo. The 4930K, quad channel memory and factory dual AC adapter are what make it a win for me, but it's inferior in every other measurement. Even the new Haswell Clevo SLI machines cannot stand up to an 18 in overclocking performance, thermal management or build quality.

Now, just in the past 16 months, they rapidly became worse because they have lost sight of what matters. Reductions in workforce, Michael buying back Dell again, retards getting promoted, forcing Alienware to fit the new Dell model... they have lost focus and may never recover.

 

The funny thing is that before Dell bought them and I believe Compal became their ODM, Alienware machines were nothing but overpriced Clevo...

 

Yup, in a nutshell. That's all they were before. Kind of like FalconNW... fancy paint job for an ordinary Clevo at twice the normal price, LOL.

 

Don't forget Wprime

 

I should be ashamed