3DMark11 on the upcoming GTX 780M!!!

Well here you have it guys. We are in for a real treat. :hi2:
This GPU spanks even the GTX 680MX. Im upgrading, no question about it

First offical 3DMark11 benchmark of the GTX 780M. Enjoy



Look at the "Graphic score" and compare them for a correct comparison:
GTX 680M 3DMark11:
http://i.imgur.com/2JMdj.jpg

GTX 680MX 3DMark11:
http://i.imgur.com/sQoMv.jpg

Mods: Please merge this thread with the 780M thread after a day or two so that people can see it. Just let this thread stay for a while so it is easier to find instead of having to browse through a thread with 40+ pages.


Source: http://dell.benyouhui.it168.com/thread-4036757-1-1.html

 

"Official"? Where's the link? Looks like Kepler is continuing to push the GPU score while sacrificing the Combined and attributes it conveys. Another pure gaming card from Nv which is what most want.

Graphics score on my reasonable well OC 7970m is 7309, Combined is 7104, I'm only using a 3610qm so my Physics score is usually around 8000 AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P7377 3DMarks. Stock clocked 7970m is GS 6329 and CS is 6763 AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P6576 3DMarks

Not sure what all your excitment is about, but I like happy people, so enjoy

 

Oh please, GTX 780M just on stock clocks will spank your OCed 7970M to submission.
Yes Nvidia have made a gaming card, is that wrong? The combined score you keep talking about means nothing for most gamers, its a test based on Direct Compute.

Since mobile Kepler overclock like a champ, and even at stock the GTX 780M laughs at both 680M and 7970M, whats not to be excited about? For those who does GPGPU work, they already know about GK104s disadvantage with computation and 7970M will fit their job better.

 

And imagine that the drivers are not mature for the 780m.
Very impressive results:thumbsup:
I think that with nice drivers,it will hit 8000 gpu score.
I want one!!!now!!!!!!!!

 

I`m also very interested in seeing how it will perform on increased voltage.
Haswell + 780M + 1500MB/s Raid0 SSDs. Yes please.

 

Me too! Scared of the price tag though used to AMD prices!

Cloudfire. Do you reckon it will work in my trusty but old M15x

 

Woooo now if only there's a 1:1 replacement rate in price, the P370EM I plan to buy will change nicely into a P375SM with SLI 780Ms and I will not have to upgrade until the PS6 is ready to come out =P

 

GTX 780M is most likely undervolted further from the 600M series like the rest of the 700M series to compensate for the extra cores. It is still on the MXM 3.0b 100W card, the notebooks it ships with still have the same PSU as the 680M notebooks (180W). I know people are using 680M inside M15x. So yeah I think it will be ready for your M15x.

 

7698 vs 7309 is not a spanking, much less submission, but way to agree with (actually just repeating) my points while sounding like a kid in an elementary school yard doing it

I guess I should have known better to say something to the #1 Nv cheerleader, god forbid actual comparisons take place, where's my pom-pom's :thumbsup:.

 

DirectCompute is something that runs on video cards, is it not? And AMD has always been proven to have better DirectCompute ability too, if I remember right. So the 780M beating a 7970 in DirectCompute AND having PhysX and CUDA and better game performance at the same heat/power drain of a 680M.... I think there is a reason it's called a spanking.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, though. I dislike being wrong XD

 

Provide link to results then it will be official. Blurry photo means bunk. I don't doubt that it will be at least 7000 stock though. 7600 seems a little overly optimistic.

 

7970M score better in 3DMark11 than GTX 680M but is beaten in game performance. GTX 780M stock 3DMark11 score better than his OC 7970M in 3DMark11, and in actual game performance its going to be bigger than that.
I also reported you Quagmire. That you resort to calling people a fanboy and "sounding like a kid in elementary school" is totally unacceptable and uncalled for. I haven`t called you anything nor attacked you. Its so sad that you get all personal on a GPU.

The picture is obviously taken with a phone. The units are still not shipped to resellers and they are still in MSI factory, included the Alienware I reported about earlier, which was a prototype. So it might not be so easy to get a hold of benchmark results yet and have time to do a screendump.
The link to the result is in the OP.

 

even if the score is real i dont care much for stock results, i want to see what voltages this thing can handle and overclocks, my 680m hit almost 9200 gpu score in 3d11 so stock 780m is nothing. Cant wait to see what it can do

 

I meant link to 3DMark results website.

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They are in the factories. They might not be connected to internet there, let alone someone might not want to take that risk.

 

True, but either way it's not technically "official". It's like someone saying they can throw a 110mph fastball while doing it in their backyard with some rigged measuring device.

 

Its a lot better than "some asian guy said it would score xxxx" right? I called it official, because this is the first benchmark from 780M ever posted in public.

The score is exactly what someone said it would score just a few days ago. Its perfectly in line with a 680MX with GPU Boost. I don`t understand the doubt Mr HTWingNut

 

i think that score is very possible, 7000 would be too low for a new gpu thats only about 800 points above a stock 680m. If dell releases a 780m I wonder if there will still be a vbios issue throwing this in to a m17x r4

 

Well you know you can count on SVL and the gang to patch that vbios up

 

Doubtful, but possible I suppose.

I'm assuming we will see 8K with optimized drivers, in time. Thanks for sharing, Cloud.

 

1536 shaders & +800mhz core clock & +1000mhz mem clock & 4GB vram & smiley face on top of the die!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

 

Hmmmm the thing is, due to physical limits of the GPUs, all 680, 680mx and 780m will most likely reach a similar max level. Obviously 780m and 680mx will have a higher chance due to extra shaders, but I think that the max scores we will be seeing, will be similar with OC.

Now, if they remove the thermal and power constraints, 780m will have more headroom.

In the end, 780m will be quite stronger from stock. I need to OC a lot to get stock 780m performance.

 

It's common practice in Chinese forums to use pirated versions of 3DMark Advance/Pro which are unable to generate links. You can dig around in there for hours without ever seeing a Futuremark link. I guess if you're honest about being a pirate, people would just take your word for whatever score you say you have?

 

Considering that the 680MX beat 680M by 20-35% in games, and that 780M will be even more powerful than 680MX, there might be places where 780M is +40% faster. 7970M and 680M gonna get their transistors whopped.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/710409-new-details-regarding-upcoming-gtx-780m-22.html#post9137563

 

Of course, at stock clocks this is a nice increase in performance. But OC'd we have 680ms which reach 9k or even more like Meaker. In the high OC arena, I think we will see similar performance. While on stock, we will get our asses kicked.

 

I agree with your last two statements there...

Also, the 780M has more VRAM and is more efficient altogether. Hope it runs cooler also!

 

780M has the same VRAM on the MSI and clevo models It's only alienware that went with 2GB on them.

 

Yeah, that's what I meant.

 

I'd like to know where all these "facts"are coming from. 680mx has 22% higher TDP than 680m, but the 780m is more powerful than 680mx at the same TDP as 680m?


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It would be possible if they use 1ghz low voltage ram and undervolt the core a bit, the 680M can overclock 32% on stock voltage which is pretty silly and activating another cluster is not very power hungry.

I would expect the difference to shrink a lot when both are tweaked.

11 P scores could be just a couple of hundred of points apart, but 1080P gaming would get a huge benefit from faster ram.

 

Since both 680M and 780M is 100W GPU, the power requirements AND thermals is the same. We already know this because both GPUs use a 180W PSU. So shouldn`t they both have the same overclocking potential? They draw the same power, they produce the same heat. Whats the catch up here? More cores you say? That is fixed by running on lower voltage than 680M.
HTWingNut did a power consumption measurement on the 680M. Max power draw from the machine was 150W and it was under BF3. Now imagine that 780M runs on same voltage. The difference between 680M and 780M is 15% more cores (1536/1344) and 1250MHz on the VRAM instead of 900MHz. Is it safe to assume atleast 15% higher power consumption? 150W * 1.15 = 173W. Thats really close to the PSU limit and nowhere near what the OEMs would allow to ensure better llongevity on the PSU. So is it safe to assume that the GTX 780M will run on lower voltage?

 

Bottom line: it's better. Let the benchmarks do all of the talking.

 

Crysis tends to be the most power hungry by the way.

You add about 20W for clocking up the memory from 900 to 1250.

 

Amen. I`m actually interested in the new GPU Boost 2.0 too. It let you pick a max temperature on the GPU and the system will change the clocks accordingly. That will give me a much better room to fiddle around with the fan settings on the GT70 or just let the GPU OC itself up to maximum whenever I desire

 

Well you can get 1033mhz in cysis3 with a 680M at the moment, it will be interesting to see what we can get

 

Well that means that the VRAM is running on lower voltage as well or they have a lot of voltage room to play with on the cores itself right?

 

And even better is the fact that using vsync or other frame limiting techniques, you will have full GPU boost glory. That's one of the advantages of using the GPU OCd and actually having lower temps, since the GPU works less to produce the same framerate.

 

They could have tested to lower voltages to their limit while ensuring full 100% performance. Some GPUs use a conservative voltage to ensure stability. Further improving the architecture allows smaller tweaks and lower voltages with the same stability. It's similar to the HD5870m where some manufacturers were running at 1.15v and others at 1.05v, naturally showing lower temps with the later.

 

Exactly. Prema gave us some numbers on how Nvidia tweaked GT 740M compared to GT 650M. They are both GK107 and the same GPU with 384 cores but the 740M is higher clocked. It looks like Nvidia is using this across the entire 700M series. Not a small voltage reduction either. Pretty big reduction

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX score: 9655 3DMarks

I think that's with stock voltage...


The extra shader create more heat and consume an extra bit of voltage... for example, both overvolted, the 675MX with its 960 shader can reach higher clocks than a 680M with it's 1344 shader, so we will see...:hi2:

 

ok, that's it, with what Prema posted, I am getting a 780m (bound to be better from the leaks), period

 

Yes.
Yes.
Wrong.

The fact that Kepler sacrifices the attributes of the Combined Score (aka DirectCompute) to push the Graphics Score is what was mentioned and the scores show it as posted, 7104 7970m vs 6126 780m is a larger deficiency than the Graphics Score of 7698 780m vs 7309 7970m. The AMD generational comparisons have balanced these more, just like Fermi did. This is what I mentioned about Kepler and that it's what most people want anyway. Cloud took offense to the way I presented it apparently and decided to restate in his fashion lashing out.

My simple question also, but I don't get answers, just lashout to simple statements and observations.

That is just pathetic Cloud, if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and responds like you did...well. Since you don't read what I post with an open mind...

...what in there was so bad that caused you to respond like this...

...was I supposed to see maturity there? Is it wrong that Nv made another gaming card? No. Where do I say it was wrong, I said "Another pure gaming card from Nv which is what most want."

Get a grip man, and yes, I find it hilarious the schoolyard mentality went and told the teacher. I'll just leave you to your threads then and never make another post in your direction since it's too easy for you to get bent out of shape.

EDIT: BTW, as you try your history revision and attempting to turn the table with "Its so sad that you get all personal on a GPU .", try using the quote feature of the website; you're not very good at quoting without it. I didn't call you a "fanboy", you're word, I said cheerleader and "yard".

 

This is it? 7500???

Isnt worth a upgrade, you barely even notice the increase in speed.

 

Lets see whats on with the red and the OC potential and I may (or may not) jump ship

 

Seriously, what is wrong with you? You are truly one pathetic individual.

I didn`t attack you at all. I said GTX 780M would beat your 7970M to submission. That you took that as offensive speaks volumes about who you really are. You talked about Combined Score to try to talk yourself out of the fact that a 780M on stock beats your OCed 7970M. Combined score is based on DirectCompute, which is a part of the benchmark where the GCN does better than Kepler. That only matters for those who run GPGPU applications. The rest, who game, couldn`t give a rats behind about that score. You couldn`t take it, so you acted like a 5 year old and called me a cheerleader and "kid in elementary school". If you truly are that lost that you can`t understand that "cheerleader" isn`t perceived like "fanboy" you truly need to work on your lack of social IQ.

You wanted proper comparison, I said that a 680M BEATS a 7970M in games despite scoring less in 3DMark11. So while a stock 780M beats an overclocked 7970M in 3DMark11 by 5-7%, thats only gonna increase in games. And you have a deeply damaged logic. Why buy a GTX 580 when you can just buy a GTX 570 and overclock it to 580? Its not like the GTX 580 (780M) can overclock too right?
Once the 780M is overclocked and maybe overvolted, that 10-15% difference gonna increase to 30-40-50%.

So yeah your 7970M is beaten to submission. But nice try with your first reply "Not sure what all your excitment is about" and that you try to cover up that your 7970M is beaten by coming up with the BS "Its still not good in combined score".

You still can`t take it, so I don`t expect you to discuss facts, but rather continue the attacks against me

 

This makes me laugh hard, I think I would use that term if the 780M would have a score of like 10000-12000 (non overclocked)......
A stock 7970M (the card doesnt really matter, wanna take the 680M?)
That makes a score of 6300 stock (I don't know for sure because mine was never stock).

Then 1 year!!! later the 780M arrives and can make 7500 - 8000 3dmarks and you call it beaten to submission.
I think you won't notice a difference.

And 1 thing more, a overclocked 7970M and 680M can deliver the same punch as a 780M, I mean, you cannot call it a new generation @ all, it just got a new name tag...


But first see if this screenshot is real or fake.....

 

An overclocked 7970M is nowhere near an overclocked GTX 680M. Why should an OC 7970M be anywhere close a OC 780M?

Its overclocked GTX 570 vs GTX 580 all over again...

 

I'm seeing a similar rinse and repeat lineup to the last round like some other comments read in various threads: 780m > 8970m >= 680mx > 680m > 7970m. Probably within that 5-10% stuff again depending on your game choices. Ohh to live in the clouds, things are so fluffy. AMD questions are if/when there will be another 12.11Beta like boost for the 8970m or can the driver team launch with the goods like Nv usually does and is there a 8990m.

Off Topic: Did you see that scene in "The Campaign" where Zach's character's family is at the dinner table for the announcement of running? I lost it when the wife spoke out

Here it is, nobody watch this if you are planning to see the movie, you'll thank me

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wow, I think you cannot read well.
I don't care about overclocked, yes or no.
It's about the difference
The difference is so small, that in my opinion you cannot call this a new generation @ all, it's more like a Geforce GTX 690M or something that.

And I the 7970M justifies it's performance by it's very good price overclocked or not, I am getting 8300 Score in 3dmark11 so I don't know where you referring to in worse overclock performance.


And besides the 7970M.

680M 3dmark score: is like 6300 I think, maybe little bit higher, maybe little bit lower
780M 3dmark score: 7500.......

I think this should be pretty clear, it's not worth to upgrade from 680M > 780M or you want 10-15-20% more frames on your schreen what I think isnt worth is.
And either from a 7970M if it's working proper, this doesnt give a difference that give a wow effect lol.


It feels like I already mentioned it...

Have a nice day

 

Wow 8300!! What speed are you running at senshin!? 1100mhz?

Why the shouting match guys! What would people prefer happen? AMD go out of business and NVidia have a monopoly and have no competition.

What is silly is that neither 8970M nor 780M official specs are out yet. Also we have therefore to yet see a side by side comparison of the two cards (and the 7970M and GTX 680M to add interest) all using EXACTLY the same hardware and software. Essentially there is no point at all to vent at one another over information that isn't even remotely solid yet!