3d rendering on a Gaming Graph. card 260m GTx 4650hd

I have spent a couple hours reading up, and searching things pertaining to my questiosn but have not reached a conclusive answer.

I needed to ask if the 4650hd and the 260m gtx cards are capable of 3d rendering via Cad solidworks etc.

I dont know if its worth the 200 dollars extra when im jsut starting college and may not need a real workstation card until my last year or grad school.

I know they have labs...bu ti want portability and the ability to do my assignments on my terms.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

I am looking at Sony fw, sager 2098 sager 8662
If anyone knows: for 3d rendering would 6gb really help (for ddr2 sony only)
Processing power, i need a p series for batt life what is the optimal processor speed for 3d rendering for low to mid renderings. i cant tell if 2.53ghz is fine or i need 2.66, 2.8

 

- Yes, they can process CAD, but I would definitely choose the GTX 260M. 256bit bus + more processing units + 1GB of vRAM.

- The amount of RAM depends on how big your projects are. 4GB should be sufficient.

- I would bite the bullet and go for the Q9000, but if you must, the 2.8Ghz P9700 will suit you well

 

hey thanks a lot!. so th 8662 sager would be better than the sony fw or sager 2098 in gaming/3d rendering hybrid?

would the 2.53 and 2.66 ghxz not be able to handle it? i was thinkign that since i wont start rendering until my 2/3rd year i may buy the cheaper one and upgrade later...what do you think?

 

All configs will be "capable"...it's just that the faster your processor is the faster the rendering will be. The different video cards make a difference when using the program and rotating in viewports and such but not at render time itself.
I agree 4gb will be enough for most rendering, only when you use loads of HQ textures will you need more.

 

How much would i need in a harddrive does anyone know the avg space needed for one 3d rendering? i was going to look at the 320 gb...but i may need the 500gb...i am just worried that it would run burning hot.

 

320GB vs 500GB will not make a difference in temperature.

 

ok so let me wrap this up

the 260m gtx is ok for hybrid of gaming and rendering...much better than the 3650hd gpu

if i did not have enough money to get everything the 4650 would be ok?
2.53 ghz would be ok? slow for rendering but i can upgrade it if i got the 8662 sager.

320 gb vs500gb 500 wins? but worth 110$?

what is the more worthwhile upgrade more warranty from the default, more gb hdd space 500, more processor speed (2.66,2.8,2.0 quad [and what is the performance % increase roughly])

 

$110 more for 500GB over 320GB? You can get a bare 500GB drive for half that price if you're lucky and catch a sale. The quad core will be easily twice as fast in programs that can utilize the power. Speedwise, it's not worth upgrading to a faster dual core for the cost. And the 260M GTX is on a whole different playing field compared with the HD 4650 and the HD 3650. It is far better, but if you can't afford it the HD 4650 will still be noticeably better than the HD 3650 (assuming all using GDDR3 and not DDR2).

 

i meant 4650 in the first place sry for the mistake of 3650. I will look up the price to buy a 500gb notebook hdd to see if its cheaper.

 

Just a suggestion, Get yourself a laptop with the best graphic card you can have.
RAM's , CPU , HardDisk are all upgradeable and by the time you need CAD (2~3 years from now) you would be able to buy CPUs,RAM and Harddisk from ebay for cheap.

What you need to consider now is the the GFX card and the upgradablity (CPU socket , RAM (DDR2 or DDR3) , etc ...)

I hope I didn't make you more confused than you are , Also remeber waiting never hurts

 

no im not confused but i think it is not even more important that i get a laptop that is easily upgradable and wont void my warrranty..so sager or asus for price per performance. and the 2.53ghz processor good gpu. 4gb ram, 320 gb harddive-500....the asus G51 seems comparable to the sager 86662 bu ti have to go to the asus lounge to see about its problems. I cant wait to long maybe until september?
http://techreport.com/articles.x/17010/14
can you guys looka tthe benchmarks and conclusion...they say the 7200 does not actually show real world increas all teh time. not to mention high power consumption etc. So I ahve to decide on 320, 7200 vs 500, 7200 vs 500, 5400

 

Depending on your budget and if your notebook can hold two hard drives, I'd consider a small SSD for OS/programs and a 500GB 5400RPM drive for data.

 

Sager NP8662 (Built on Clevo M860TU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050) - 8662
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8700 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- nVidia GeForce GTX 260M 1,024MB PCI-Express DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Sager NP866x Spare 8 Cell Battery

- Sager 2 Year Parts & Labor Warranty w/ Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Customer Support

1800$

would that be good? or is it better to get the 2098 sager with a more powerful cpu, or the sony fw with more ram and cpu power....

they say teh sager 8662 is upgradable...but would the warranty be void if i did later on..and is 2 years worth it or can i get buy with the 1 year. is there a way to extend the warranty [postpurchase] i could not find a way.

I was not going to buy this for another month but I was blessed with cash, but i only have 1700$ and need a gps/phone for my move to college. so should i lower the warranty or hdd gb space? [not sure how much the rendering programs take on space to save files.] Student discounting anyone?

 

You've got an excellent laptop here but ur processor isn't so good. I'd try to get a P9500 or above at least or a T9400 or above or a Q9100 at least

 

i dont think ill need that untill the 2nd or 3rd year so i was thinkign to get the stock undervolt it, and upgrade in two years to a quad.

anyone agree that is the best plan or should i just go the 2.8ghz route or 2.66ghz.

 

While there is a benefit with a faster processor, it is very small and definitely not worth the cost. The only worthy upgrade would be to a quad core (even the Q9000).

 

For rendering the Q9000 should be better and for gaming, it will do just as well as a Core2Duo. The Q9000 is a great all round processor and add to that Windows 7 with the X64 OS version, you really have a winner here.

 

the only reason im not going the quad route is that i need to squeeze as much batt life and b/c of price...im trying to get that pricetag to go from 1800 to 1600 since i still need to buy a sleeve and cooler. so stock cpu, 320 hardrive i do need the extra battery.

Is the cooler necessary right now or can it wait?


but i jsut saw that alienware has updated their m15X so now

its 3870 hdvs with smart bay bat 260m gtx spare 8cell batt
both have hte same processor speed 2.5 abd same hd and same warranty. alien has illuminated keys and batt saver. Same price +- 50

http://www.alienware.com/customize/...Code=PC-LT-AREA51M15X-AI1&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

so which wins out if alien updated their laptop and the prices are the same.

 

How much is the upgrade to the Q9000? That processor shouldn't be much more than the P8700. On battery, if you're just doing day-to-day tasks, you won't stress the processor and idle power consumption isn't much different than the P8700. If you undervolt, the difference would become even less.

 

after talking to my mother she does not want me getting a desktop and laptop or spend so much on one laptop so i may get a asus g71 about 1150$

she does not feel good with me gettin ga sager and a reseller she's does not trust businesses. but how is the asus? is it upgradable also I was thinking about getting the bestbuy version same specs as sager but with 6gb ram ddr2 500gb harddrive. what do you all think? after the extra battery and warranty its about 400$ less.

i know this is a sager forum but I am just wanting to have some money left over and to make my mother happy. what do you guys think of the g71 i need to research it more. heard it's better than the g51

 

This isn't the Sager forum Check out that forum for better info on Sagers/Clevos, and the Asus forum for more about the G51/71.

 

will do, graphics question i hear that he 260m on the asus is clocked down is that true?

 

Yes, I believe it is to accommodate the lower cooling capabilities of the G51 compared w/ 17" models that have more room (and thus better cooling capabilities).

 

so g71 is not underclocked? thats the one im comparing tto the alienware m15x and the sager8662

 

Drake: Seriously, why dont you consider a desktop pc + netbook? you will get a nice desktop pc and a netbook with good battery time for less than $1000 or probably I am more than sure you missed our discussion about viDock mod (Being able to use a desktop GFX card with a laptop for cheap, but you can't use it on laptop screen (anther monitor is required))

anyway check it out: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=397667

 

the reason is my hands are too large for a net book and I would need a dual core for multi tasking when traveling etc so in the end a good desktop and a very cheap laptop still is over 1000 not to mention two warranties. Any my mother put a clamp ion that saying no. She doesnt want me worried about safeguarding my desktop when i travel.

 

The G71's GTX 260M is underclocked relative to those of the M15x and Sager 8662 but you can overclock it to the supposed stock clocks relatively easily.

The G71, however, will definitely get more bang for the buck.

 

Tevash has the heating problems been corrected? any thing I should know about the cons? I am look at the bb model G71 and the sager8662 nvm alienware. the sager is about 1450, best buy is 1150 before warranty.

 

The G71 heating issue has been fixed by a BIOS update (1302 IIRC). The Best Buy versions to come with that update so you will have to flash it yourself.

As for cons, there really aren't any big ones that I know of.