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    3d visual effect in games?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by stonesrubber, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    I kinda am unsettled on this ... does a 3d laptop, lets say a envy 17 3d, mean that anything and everything seen on the laptop screen produced 3d visual effects, if you use your active shutter glasses? For example, if I insert a normal dvd to watch a movie or a normal dvd to play a game, wil the both of these applications produce 3d visual effects????
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    No. Only if the application or media has 3D information of some sort will it appear in 3D.
     
  3. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    I see. So in order to render 3d visual effects, you need a 3d capable lappy, plus a 3d capable application, right? If this is true, I wish to know, what the difference is in the 3d applications, as compared to non 3d applications. Is it the format? the Command files or something else?
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    The format, and the application to display it. If the two views necessary to make a 3D image aren't there or can't be generated, you're not gonna see anything in 3D. 3D games can just render from slightly different viewpoints, so almost all games will work in full 3D. But remember that that will basically cut your framerate in half to do so.
     
  5. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    ok. So basically all normal games I run on a 3d lappy will render 3d visual effects?
    And how about movies???? all normal movies too will render 3d visual effects ona 3d lappy?
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    No. No normal movies will be in 3D. They might be able to do some kind of processing to make them appear pseudo-3D, but it'll look weird.

    I think you need to do a little reading on how 3D works: 3D TV FAQ | Crave - CNET

    All of those are pretty much straight applicable to 3D laptops, too.
     
  7. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    Pita, thank you so muc for the guide, solved a lot of my problems, relating to 3d and its concepts. The only question that is now left in my head is, if it is worth, going for a 3d laptop? just for the games that will render such effects and a few movies, that may be able to render such effects.
    I ask you this specifically to be advised on what the scenario in the future market will be. Is there a market for a lot of 3d movies in the future? are there gonna be 3d only games made?
     
  8. Ruckus

    Ruckus Notebook Deity

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    The current 3D tech is crap. The 3D Effects so your eyes won't be straining and so fatigued require a massive screen. That's why 3D TV sales are still sucking and really if you want a 3D Movie experience, go to the theatre. The other part is 3D still requires glasses so if you wear glasses, you are screwed. And also even the Nvidia 3D Vision has no compensation for if you have a dominant eye. So for those who have dominant eye, when viewing this fake, 3D Effect, the dominance will be even more prevalent and you'll just be very angry at the end of it.

    But for 3D to actually work here are the recommendations. 50" 120 HZ TV. A laptop screen is way too small, even a 22" desktop screen way too small. The 3D Effects cause your eyes to strain even with 50", and with smaller screens, straining even more. So even if you don't start barfing are have a massive headache in 10 minutes, your eyes will still be extremely fatigued. The smaller the screen, the more your eyes strain to see the 3D Effect on a small screen.

    Also be prepared for your gaming scores whether you are car racing or playing an FPS to drop significantly. For most competitive players, 3D is just distracting and has no advantage at all, in fact disadvantage.
     
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    If you really want a 3D with your laptop. IMO it should be just for BluRay watching in which all you need is a HDMI 1.4a port and connect that to a 3D ready massive HDTV. Otherwise, just say forget it.

    If you actually look at how 3D is being used, even the developers and industry are indirectly saying it's a gimmick. The movies that have used 3D including Avatar are terrible, with terrible acting, terrible dialogue and scenarios that make no sense. For example, if humans are capable of traveling to distant worlds at light speed, why do can't they just beat the crap out of the surface with tactical, accurate orbital attacks? Through and through, Avatar IMO was terrible, the only thing that makes it even worth mentioning is that it has 3D effects. So overall, 3D is being used as a gimmick to get people to spend money on a movie knowing how terrible everything else is.

    In general, where the budget is spent to make something 3D, everything else suffers and really what makes a movie or a game etc immersive and compelling is the dialogue, story and well everything else that is not 3D...
     
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    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Kind of off topic, but I think the movie industry has been pushing 3D because of their lackluster sales at theatres. People prefer to sit at home and rent a movie, or get video on-demand instead of going to noisy, crowded theatres. I think that was a scheme to bring people back, and it trickled down to 3D ready televisions and laptop screens.
    It would be really cool though if that was implemented in video games. True 3D 3d games. :p
     
  11. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    3d is still gimmicky in all of it's implementations, even on larger format devices than laptops. Don't get a 3d laptop.

    It should also be relatively straightforward why 3d video games are easily adaptable to 3d and why 2d movies are not.