4k res not viable for mobile for some time?

I am 100% with you on being an early adopter too and going out of my way to watch some classic or semi classic films but the stuff is out there for the people who need to have the latest tech just like us people who buy a new laptop every year even though they did not need it.

I will say though a TV regardless of the price tag is a very solid investment for many many years to come unlike pretty much every other tech we buy today that becomes outdated much faster then it should TV is thankfully not one of those.

 

For web browsing, movies, picture editing etc? Yes

For games? Some few ones, mostly no.

 

So true.. I've had my Samsung 1080p since spring 2008, aside from having to replace some caps which was a $10 trip to radio shack and about 40 minutes of my time, it's still like new. I would like a slightly larger one at some point since I'm getting older. can't justify it right now though.

 

...whoosh!

That's the sound of the point going right over your head.

The point is that most of the stuff that's currently available is just upscaled to 4k. It's not 4k source material.

The fact that Ghostbusters is a classic film is irrelevant. 4k upscaled from a 30 year old master is not going to look any better than the 20th anniversary DVD you might have.

2-3 years from now, yeah, it'll probably be a different situation, but we're talking about now.

The only thing that's "too darn funny" is that you missed the point so hard.

 

How did i miss the point when all i was doing was showing that there is stuff available regardless if it is up to you're personal standards of perfection ?. I never once said it was from 4k source material did i ? does that mean it wont look amazing upscaled to 4k like so many Blurays have done to 1080p ?.

Seems too me that the point went right over your head not mine actually because i am fully aware it is not 4k source material.

And yeah it is too darn funny because you are looking for a challenge/argument and i was not.

 

Do you understand that upscaling something doesn't really provide benefits to picture quality?

 

Why do upscaling exist if there are no benefits to it?

Im sure the picture is better, but not like true 4K content

 

Upscaling exists to fit a 1080p source in a 4k display. It doesn't magically make the picture better.

 

Its not just 1080p content that is upscaled to 4k. There are DVD res being upscaled to 720p, and 720p to true HD 1080p. I have read a lot good user reviews that the picture quality does indeed get better. Also i have heard the opposite.

Same with Sony's 4K TVs that is capable of upscaling non 4K content, and a HiFi magazine here in Norway praised it because the clearly saw visual differences.

I think it brew down to that quality of the upscaling hardware. General rule seem to point out that the more expensive equipment you buy, the better upscaling picture you get.

 

When it upscales it basically applies an algorithm, somewhat like AA so that it doesn't look so grainy. But it can look weird depending on the source.

 

Here's as close to 4K res as I'll get any time soon. 6660x4140p

3x(1920x1080) + 1x(1600x900) all from the 7660g (sure isn't SLI Titans lol but at least it works).



I need a bigger desk.

 

Based on the existing progression of mobile graphics cards, I would estimate roughly 6 years until current games can be played in 4k resolution at maximum settings on a notebook.

 

We will be looking at upscaled content the rest of our lives is the point of all of this .

Our favorite movies from childhood to adulthood have been created without 4k in mind many years ago.

Does that mean i will not buy them again when they rerelease them in 4k ? Heck no i bet they will look great . Maybe not like the source 4k material and even far from it but that is not going to stop me at all.

Also television/cable you name it will take many years to adopt to that standard if ever. Does that mean i wont buy a TV that does 4k because everything is not native 4k ? Heck no .

There really is no argument here especially considering how bad most movies are today and most of our fondest memories from films will more then likely be from past stuff we have seen and might want to see again which means upscaled or you aint gonna see it because its not native 4k.

So it might be Ghostbusters or The Godfather or Animal House... Not saying its going to be amazing but it will be good .

 

Not sure that is necessarily true. I believe many movies are recorded above what our tvs can show us already. The public version is prepared for 1080p?

 

If it was actually recorded on film it can be reproduced almost indefinitely to any resolution. Film is analog therefore fidelity is much higher than a fixed pixel count. Most modern digital films are recorded with 2k technology or 2048x1080. Obviously you can't upscale higher than what you filmed it at digitally, well not without algorithms and best guess improvements and tricks like AA that only marginally and improperly improve an image.

TV shows filmed digitally are primarily 1080p so that's really the limit.

Personally I think any professional filming should be done on film or at obscenely high resolutions so the fidelity isn't lost over time as technology advances. But the problem is storage of the media that is prohibitively expensive. Imagine a two hour feature film with raw audio and 10k video, 30fps. That would be ENORMOUS in file size.

 

Current movies are starting to be recorded at 4k. There are a few companies producing 4k cameras for movie production. It's by no means widespread.

But my point is that upscaling an old movie isn't really going to look any better on a 4k Bluray than it does on a 1080p Bluray. There's just no way to restore the missing detail.

 

actually 4k is stil lower resolution than film.

 

I do understand that we will be missing the certain something that true 4k brings but we will not have much if any choice when revisiting so many movies or shows we loved in the past because upscaling will be the only choice period.

Either way it will not stop me from buying a 4k TV and enjoying new source content along with the upscaled/remasted stuff as well. I am sure its all going to look fantastic.

 

I'm sure we'll all have 4k TVs at some point, just not now.

 

65mm film is way better than 4k and more comparable to 8k

 

Actually 1080 is the TV production norm. And its the first time in history that the recording medium and display capability have matched.

In the past, the record medium was always far ahead of the display. That's why movies are moving to 4k. They will reestablish that gap and give consumers an incentive to move up when prices fall and the opportunity arrives.

But also very rare. Due to obvious high costs of production and the limitation on presentation. Much like that of today's 4k dilemma. Super 35 is today's theatrical norm.