580m gtx vs 6990m

which is better. on notebookcheck the 580m gets 24fps in crysis maxed and the 6990m gets 28fps. which one is faster without an overclock. i own the 6990m and was wondering if a 580m owner would benchmark his card for fun at stock to compare it to the 6990m to see who really is stock king

 

You can see some benchmarks in my sig.

General wisdom is that the 580M is faster, but not by much.

 

I think that for the money the 6990 is more worth it. Anyway do you play on b.net, I think I saw you playing dota once.

 

i ask because the 580m scores 3100 in 3dmark11 and i score 3400 with my 6990m does this mean the 6990m is faster

 

It goes down to which game and which drivers. In some games, the 580M is favored because of the often better nVidia drivers but there are games that the 6990M is favored more. However the consensus tends to lean to the 580M if we are talking about pure raw stock performance with latest drivers in mind. However, the advantage of the 580M over the 6990M is at most 5-10% and the price cost for a 580M is pretty ridiculous to justify that gain to most.

 

there are both on par, the bottom line is the driver support which differs from both gpus

 

There is no clear winner. It depends on which game, which drivers etc. They trade blows. At some point the 580m is faster by 10%, or more, and at some the HD6990m is baster by 10% or more... it just depends on which games you choose to bench.

there is no definitive winner. Though even if they have similar performance, the 580m add their nvidia features like CUDA and physx. Thats the main difference.

 

the 580ms are better until ati sorts out their drivers.

 

This is similar to a "Ford vs Chevy" debate.
I would go with whatever you can afford and/or like.

Good luck

 

There are some quirks on both sides. From what I observed, most of the people that are having problems(BSOD, lockups) when it comes to mobile driver is the Alienware M18x. I was getting BSOD left and right with the previous drivers from nVidia too.

 

Price to performance, the 6990 wins hands down.

 

580m's had a price drop weeks ago.

 

Well then pick your favorite color, green or red

 

this really is a ford vs chevy argument, and on another note; how many more threads do we really need about your 6990?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/search.php?searchid=6321511

 

580m or 6990m, the thing here is not the power of these cards itself. Is more how well they are used, in the likes of Drivers.

Its always the old same thing. AMD still struggles into keeping a "smooth" driver performance, ive seen and still seeing peoples forced to roll back to previous drivers with a mixture of newer caps to get a decent performance in some games.

Most of the newer drivers lately introduced BSOD's on boot, or fixed a game and broke other 10. AMD has been always like this. Ive had a crossfire system for alot of time (desktop) and just lately ive switched back to nvidia, and i must say their drivers are awesome, specially when it comes to general performance.

They have their issues, granted, but not that ground-breaking like AMD.

Most of the AMD fanboy's would say that im talking crap non-sense but they dont realize that their gpus are not used as they should. You can get a decent performance out of a 6990m thinking that its the best your card can do, only to realize that a stock gtx580m does better usually with a good margin. I would like to see peoples commenting on the fact once they used and own both cards, instead of spanking one for the other without a "real" experience in hand.

None the less, the 6990m comes really cheap compared to the 580m, that is the main reason to think about it.

Or - if you want to stay "green" - just get a gtx485m, oc past gtx580m clocks (and further) and be happy. Beside the newer core, 580m is just a rebranded 485m.

 

only on aw, on sager there wasnt a price drop at all

 

the very reason why i bought alienware i don't want to waste my stash on something ordinary if i had to pay more on the same specs. if i could've bought sager, it will be waaayyy overpriced (just saved 650usd on 580m sli plus some sweet deals)

of course alienware is generally pricey compared to other high end products like sager.

not this time.

 

everything in bf3 maxed out (but 2xAA) i get 40-45fps tops using a single 580m. dual use is fluid.

because these two cards perform on par, in some games red is the winner, the other games green is the winner. given that both 580m and 6990m without any issues but clocking on stock.

why people went to crossfire systems? that's a good question, because they want to tax out metro 2033

try to update your drivers and see if it will make a difference to those games you mentioned.

 

Given that 6990m is significantly cheaper, it wins!

 

Price to performance the 6990M wins... Driver support the 580M wins...

If you really want to max everything out best to just buy a desktop computer.

 

580m's had a price drop already.

 

Yes, but it's still $250-$300 more than the 6990m.

 

Dont want to get into scuffle with a Alienware owner but...

Lowering the price for one component on an Alienware does not make up for how overpriced they are in terms of other upgrades. Don't get me wrong you've got a fine machine there, just not a very economical one.

On sagers its still a $330 premium for the 580M. Dollar for dollar, the 6990M still wins. But don't get me wrong, I'd rather take your lappy over mine, I just don't got 3 grand to burn If my next programming project is successful, then maybe.

All I'm saying is if you are a true power user best to put that same money into an SLI desktop.

 

Yeah maybe in the USA but not in the UK or Europe so the 6990m is still cheaper

 

yeah i feel you guys no means of anything.

this is just my upgrade after 3 years and in those 3 years i have been saving some cash for this, and yet i got good discounts and at the same time the 580m sli price drop.

 

NP8150/NP8170 has so many options of screens, including the 95% gamut screen. Unless the M18x is IPS, then I'd have to say the Sager ones are the best.

 

yeah...but i rather have the unplugged 6 hours battery life compared to that...

 

its different, i got 5-6 hours of battery saving in alienfusion, sometimes when i surf the web on the go yeah i travel most of the time. my brother has sager np7280 and he can't even reach 1hr limit with battery saving also. im not concluding but that is based on my experience.

 

good for you son.

try metro 2033 on that one.

 

I lol'd. Hard. =)

 

that makes the two of us

 

I'd much rather have the m18x with 580m than the np8150 with 6990m, that's for sure.

 

lmao... here we go again.

for the price of an m18x with a 580m (single gpu)... i would rather have a 6990M np8170 with a 256GB SSD and also my laptop makes me feel beautiful... im a one laptop man FOR LIFE.

 

You won't be maxing out the newest games 3 years from now. Maybe on a 580M sli, but not on a single 6990M.

Oh well. Most of the games I play are from Blizzard anyways, not the most demanding games. I must program instead of gaming so I can get rich and then I can buy whatever lappy I want!

Sagers are pretty cool though. Yep luv meh SSD drive, its a good buy! Also have to say.. 2012 sagers might FINALLY be giving Alienware a run for its money with backlit keyboards and such.

Buuuut... next purchase will not be a laptop. Unless you really need portability, its best to put the money into an i7 SLI desktop. Then upgrade the GPUs in a couple years to stay current with the newest games.

 

Bah, just buy the Sager np8150 with the GTX580m. That's what I would do. My desktop has a nVidia card and I love it. I don't feel like getting 2 different brands.

 

yes yes, nice excuse boy. very predictable.

you said your 15 inch elite can run games to the max? is DX9 max for you? now you are pointing out the difference that is obviously off. you have seen the tessellation in dx11 eh? i dont think so.

and no. i didn't spend extra, i had discounts. dell discounts, doesn't mean you have alienware you spend more. its smart buying kid.

maybe metro is too much for you?

Crysis 1. crank up the details to max and all AA. native res.

you should obviously see the difference.

don't give dx9 and same same excuse if you have the best 15 inch laptop son.

diggity.

 

lol... this thread devolved quickly. I had discounts too on my Sager. Assuming I had the best Sager discounts and you had the best Alienware discounts I would still say Sager wins on price to performance.

But lets not kid ourselves.... do we really care who got the best deal? I mean, its your money spend it as you wish. I'd never go dual gpu in a lappy, I still need something that is small / light enough to move around.

I think the truth is its just darn cool own a fast laptop so we get very emotional about it. We are all brothers in the same clan of elite gaming laptops. Unite my brothers... UNITE!!!!

 

Yes, and I plan to join you when the next refresh comes out. I am a future Sager with backlit keyboard and possibly GTX w/ optimus owner. Either that or Alienware M14x R2 depending on my mood and value at the time.

 

i hope they ban this guy again.

what is your point in this thread, seriously. what answer are you looking for? you asked originally which is faster. than when someone gave you facts you said, "i don't care I can run games maxxed out at 60fps in dx9."

/le sigh

edit: than you posted your metro screenshot, and picked the absolute WORST area to show any details on both dx9 and dx11. way to fail. crysis came out over 3 years ago and it has some of the worst a.i i've seen, not to mention they take close to 30 bullets to kill at a distance.

 

I dont understand the flooding of these threads...There are sooo many threads about these two cards.'
@OP, was the picture necessary? That just shows immaturity.

 

says the guy who has posted ten threads about his 6990. there is a search function you know? you could have easily searched for the info you wanted. but its not the info you wanted, you wanted to create yet another thread to 'look at me' and post about your laptop.

exactly why I said what I said, its pretty obvious from all the other threads/posts he's made.

 

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/clapping/citizen_cane.gif

Someone had to say it.

 

Obviously, this thread has come as far as it can.