5870M and GTX 560M question

Is a 5870M harder to cool than a GTX 560M? Both cards have 50 W TDP I think.

 

the 560m will run cooler...it isn't close. We are talking about cards from different generations

 

Actually both are from the 40nm generation.

 

Maybe Slick meant different segments. 5870 should match GTX470/570 instead of 460/560.
I remember struggling battling the 5870 laptops with my old 460.

 

^I think you're talking desktop cards??

40nm isn't a generation...

ATI has been getting the smaller die shrinks before Nvidia for a while now... Still they tend to run hotter compared to Nvidia cards of the same power/performance/nanometers.

Also if you just look at the numbers, 560m is 1 generation newer than the 5870m, the ATI cards are ahead in the model numbers, what with the 600 and 7000 series. Meaning 560m and 5870m are not equal or released around the same time.

 

Well i don't know what he meant but i do remember the gtx560 being easier to cooldown than the hd5870. And the 560 was the overclock the 460 needed to fight the hd5870 easily on stock. Amd did not counter this as it didnt need to and only fought back with the hd 6970 and hd6990 for the high end. Considering the hd5870 was released when thr gtx260 and gtx280 were around, it is interesting how much it has been on the market offering such performance that took nvidia the next two gens to properly address in price range.

 

Do not compare the Asus version of the 5870M to any others (OP) that was Asus failure that led to such high temps not the card itself, people commonly use this as an excuse to buy Nvidia over Ati in the Asus forum but unless you test both cards in the same setup it is hard to compare them.

5870M was released as a high end card in Jan 2010 and the 560M released as mid-high in May 2011 and both have different architecture but still the 5870M matched the 560M at stock so you would kinda expect the ATI to run hotter. In Jan 2010 it was a blessing I still miss mine.

 

The correct answer is that neither card has ever been difficult to cool.

 

I don't think it is a question of which one is easier to cool, as each laptop has it's own cooling system. If an OEM decides to have a cheapo cooling system, then X card will run hotter than Y card. 5870M was top line 5000 mobile series card, while 560M is only entry level high end 500 series card.