5870m and solidworks

can anyone confirm that solidworks '09 or '10 with a 5870m runs glitch free? I've read radeons can be a bit buggy with the software and am thinking about pulling the trigger on a 860cu with the 5870. It doesn't have to run solidworks well, just has to run it decently (i'm using a go7950 right now and it runs it fine, but struggles with newer games).

 

Solidworks will work fine on the 5870, but you do know sorks is designed and works far better and glitch free on the FirePro/Quadros and not the Radeon/G-force cards?

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html

 

it will run it in but if you wishes for more


if the model of the fire pro using the 5870 core is out you can probabily use the same work around that was used for the 48xx serie

you download the fire pro driver install it in place of the radeon standar one some functionality are missing but if you don't push to hard the should eb no issue
(an other work around is to drop a specific dll of the drive in the aplication folder if the aplication suport it it will rrun on that dll wich connect to the underlying part of the driver seamlesly)

these work around are for the 48xx serie and not confirmed for the 5870 but look them around who know

 

will not work in the 5000 series yet or the newer Quadros, I love to softmod when I can

 

What was changed to not work? I worked with Solidworks long ago with a Geforce 1 without problems, i am surprised almost 8 years later there are issues that make it not work with new cards.

 

ATI and Nvidia got smart onto us and disabled some of the functionality right on the die, so even moreso the desktop crowd gets a nutered GPU.

the GF cards with driver mods can get a little bit more acting as a Quadro but nothing too substancial

 

I didn't converted my Geforce to a Quadro and i think i was with Solidoworks 2002.

 

which Gf???, we have been trying to do a 260 and a 280 with no sucess, we can get the drivers to load but not get ther performace of the workstation card.

 

Any update on this?
Im using the same 5780m and using solidworks. It renders only on the CPU which is not so fast in comparison to the 5870m.

Any way to boost performance by means of a driver update.
It's a pain in the *** , that I can't put my graphics card to work with this program.

Any work around?
I'm using Solidworks 2010 Student edition.

 

Not sure I understand why if SolidWorks etc is important to you, you would buy a gaming GPU rather than FirePro/Quadro?

Not exactly sure why you think companies like AMD and Nvidia that charge premiums for their pro line, would let you get free features with a far cheaper consumer GPU?

If I was Nivida and AMD I'd do the same, put in measures to prevent you from getting options you didn't pay for.

 

And I'm not sure why your making the guy out to be bad guy. If you buy a 5870m its still got alot of power, if want to use that for far cry 2 or solid works I should be allowed to. If they want to offer expensive cards they should offer better performance not merly nuetter existing cards.

 

Agree with you rippeer.

Let me explain the story to you Ruckus.
I BOUGHT a laptop , MSI GX740, for school.
We have to work with Solidworks 2010 for our technical drawing lessons.

So I thought a graphics card like that would support programs like solidworks.

I really am not looking for a workstation graphics card with the same specs as my 5870m.

And they probably won't even have them in the mobile graphics market?
Already looked at firepro cards, prices are outrages for a few features.

I thought I might get this 5870m to work with designer programs, but now it is just sitting there eating dust.

Solidworks is for school, and rendering parts is an extra feature in solidworks. It renders off the CPU now. But I hope there is a solution (like cuda or so) to assist the CPU with the GPU.

 

I also worked with Mobility Radeon 9700 for a shorter time with Solidworks. There is no reason that a consumer card can't work with Solidoworks or any other 3D application. In beginning of this decade i worked with applications that had code ported from SGI/Unix with geforces 1 and 2.

 

I don't agree. You get what you pay for. Optimizations for professional work is not free and AMD or Nvidia aren't obligated to give it to you. I see no reason why AMD or Nvidia should give you something just because you are unwilling to pay for it.

 

They would not have to give me the optimizations. I would buy a (fictional) license that would enable the HD5870m to work with solidworks.

But that's not the problem, you have to buy a whole freaking card. And I'm sure that they don't even have a damn 5870m replacement for the mobile sector.

I agree that it maybe should not be free, but it's not what you call relatively cheap. Instead those prices are simply outrageous.

Say you want your car on a racing track sometime, it wasn't design to do that. But still you can.

it's like buying a fast car and have a speedlimit of 70MPH thats controlled inside the car.

I want to do more with less. Not less with more.

Kind of like, to just accept everyone to screw you over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and again.

 

Actually they do: ATI FirePro? M7820 Product Features . But your analogy is incorrect. It's more like comparing a BMW M3 and the M3 GT2. They have the same engine and pretty much the same chassis, but there are several parts that have been added that make the GT2 eat the regular M3 for breakfast on the track.

Yes the FireGL are based on Radeon but that's where the similarities stops. Yes you can race the regular M3 but it wasn't really made for that so it won't be as good as doing it as the dedicated race car.

 

A graphic card is for viewport drawing not for rendering unless the render engine suport it with CUDA or OpenCL.

Are you sure solidworks 2010 own render uses CUDA or OpenCL?

 

But it's still a car, and it can be used on the track Ayle.
Thanks for the headsup about the mobile 5870 counterpart!

I wonder where I can find the mobile firepro in stores online.
And if it is swappable with my current 5870m

@bullit,
I have no clue whether it supports CUDA or OpenCL

I just want to take advantage of the graphics card on Solidworks Student edition. And gather some info.

 

If you don't know why you are complaining?
Why do you fault the card for something that maybe the application can't give?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the card or application. I'm just finding ways to make the 5870m more useful

 

Okay, send a mail to Solidworks and ask if render engine have CUDA or OpenCL acceleration.