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    5870x2 vs 285m sli

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by wickerman, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. wickerman

    wickerman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Whis is faster between geforce 260m sli or radeon mobility 4870x2 for playing crysis, gta iv, and 3dmark06?
     
  2. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i get 10166 in 3dmark06 using a single 260GTX so all we need is someone to post with sli and who uses a 4870
     
  3. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Firstly you dont need a 4870m in SLI to be able to play those games one would do especially GTA as thats more CPU intensive in fact its extremely CPU intensive.

    The 4870m SLI would destroy the single 260 GTX hands down as long as the game utilized SLI properly. Personally pick yourself up a single 5870M or 460M GTX machine as on their own they run more powerful and cooler, and cheaper than SLI. If you want to compare the 3Dmark06 scores for them read it and weep

    4870M SLI: 14495.8
    260 GTX: 10177.2
     
  4. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    he mentioned 260 sli above so they would wipe the floor of the 4870 sli wouldnt they.
     
  5. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Opps my mistake he did indeed but nothing changes it would still get beat by the 4870m crossfire as the 260 GTX SLI only hit 11989 in 3Dmark06 because again SLI cannot produce fantastic results unless the program/game that runs it can utilize it to maximum potential, which most cant. The 5870m would also beat the 260 GTX SLI as its one place above it and that is by benchmark standards not by gaming which most games only see a 40-50% increase at most by having 2 mobile cards. My 5870m with my clocks below would leave it on the floor covered in blood and wimpering :D

    Im not an SLI hater by the way I loved my 8700M GT SLI to its last moments until I sold it :( I always wanted it to be as good as 1 8800M GTX but no matter how hard I tried it was not and never will be because memory bandwidth running through one single powerful card plays such a vital role in a GPU's processing power.
     
  6. wickerman

    wickerman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which one is more powerful to play crysis and the latest games?
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Guest

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    They are pretty close, but the 5870 is the way to go. It is newer overall. (DX11)
     
  8. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Yeah. Latest games means you'll want DX11, and the 285 won't give you that. The 5870 is better performance/watt as well as typically being less expensive, too, even if it loses in a few benchmarks.
     
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    Sir_Gawain Notebook Consultant

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    Care to back up that claim? Don't just say Nvidia has better driver support if you can't back it up. AMD WHQL drivers are rated more stable than Nvidia, by WHQL labs... and for most users, stability is more important.

    So far in less than a year, Nvidia released two drivers that caused cards to spark and smoke. One of which was packaged with the release of the GTX 590.

    Even though Nvidia paid 2 MILLION for Crysis 2, their drivers still had flickering issues with SLI. And a lot of the new games are not Nvidia branded games any longer, in fact many of them have the AMD Gaming Evolved tag now, like Dirt 2, BC2, DA2, Stalker COP, Civilization V, Shogun 2 and Predator v Alien. Nvidia only has Metro 2033 and Lost Planet 2 for DX11 games...

    Nvidia having better drivers in the past few years, 2009-2011, is an absolute myth and a fallacy. Both companies have had issues with drivers, neither are perfect. Overall for majority users, both Nvidia and AMD provide easy install and play drivers. Drivers shouldn't be a reason for anyone buying, UNLESS we are talking about professional grade products. There Nvidia still has a bigger presence and an edge.
     
  11. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    He's talking about Crysis 2 that is still flickering on my 470M SLi with the latest 270.61 drivers.
     
  12. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Phistachio A. Scriabin

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    I have to say : that statement is getting very "old". Yes, AMD drivers WERE bad, but now with the Mjolner project ( 11.4+ ), they are amazingly made. Boosted performance like no other drivers can. I believe not even nvidia did this.
     
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    Sir_Gawain Notebook Consultant

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    Why do I need to back up an opinion with proof? I didnt say that NVIDIA flat out does now did I? Based upon what I read here, and other sites, I have formed my own opinion. If you dont like it sorry. Many review sites preach the same all day as well still (wrong or not). Im not trying to start a pissing match... I like them both in fact, I may be making the switch to 2x AMD 6970M with the upcoming M18X I am planning on purchasing.
     
  15. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Actually hes right about the statement there.
    Nvidia has had time to properly test out that card since its not the newest offer in the tech world, but a setup of two ATI Radeon HD 5870m in Crossfire should scale better.
    Also AMD is really stepping the game up with its new project to maximize performance on their Catalyst driver suite.
    (Bonus with DirectX 11 support.)
     
  16. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Check my scores in sig.
    I own a sli 9800m gtx which is basically a gtx260m in sli, same cards.
    My scores are with the x9000 @ 3,8:
    Windows 7: 15,259
    Xp: 16,640

    It scales well depends on the game, as an example im able to run crysis 1 veyhigh 1200p 2xAA with 32fps in benchmark with no tweaks.
    Crysis 2 in extreme 1200p with average of 32-35 in multiplayer, 32 in single.
     
  17. Yiddo

    Yiddo Believe, Achieve, Receive

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    Your scores are that high because of the 3.8ghz Extreme processor that you have with a normal CPU as per notebookcheck the result is 12719 which is below the 5870M single GPU not to mention the GTX SLI does yield a good 3DMark06 score because that program was created 5 years ago, try out vantage and check your results against a CPU/GPU breakdown.

    The GTX cards are very good. The 8800M GTX proved that but modern Directx 11 high memory bandwidth requiring games running with your GDDR3 wont run as well, and SLI is very dependent on the program being able to utilise it which not all can. Benchmarks are made to run SLI at its maximum capacity.