59hz refresh rate in windows 7

I know there are lots of threads covering this issue, and i've tried every single possible way including forcing upon a new edid or inf driver and haven't had any luck that persisted. But i did find that 100 percent of the time the new version of rivatuner allows an easy way to change the refresh rate and keep it that way even through a reboot if you just add it to the launcher. Not sure if this is covered but i couldn't find anything on it here, figured i'd let everyone know.

 

Some LCD panels are only capable of 59Hz to begin with. Are you sure that your display is capable of more, let alone that you need a greater refresh rate?

 

I wrote a small app (NV only) that sets the refresh rate from a command line parameter, you could use it with a batch file in startup to set any rate you want. It's crude, and comes with no guarantees whatsoever. Want it?

 

no offense, but don't call me an idiot. If it was capable of only 59hz i would know that, but the asus g71 in my sig is capable of 60 and so is my westinghouse. on top of that it's a widely known issue with windows 7 that the refresh rate is in fact being rounded down by the algorithm that win 7 uses instead of up like vista and every earlier os did.

 

sure i'd love it

 

That's ironic, considering that you're the one taking offence over a routine question. I'm asking because it's a routine mistake that people often make.

 

taking offense doesn't admit being an idiot, however the issue doesn't appear to be a limitation of the hardware i have hence why i posted in the first place. Personally i wasn't asking the question of why i can't get it fixed, more or less stating that i've fixed it. On top of that, i do have my hardware posted so that an educated reply can be created before you make the statement you did.

I'm not mad, nor offended, hence the "no offense" that you ignored from my post. I only felt that the reply didn't serve the original post in any way other then to further you ruse that somehow we all are unaware of the capabilites of our monitors, which you by stating such presume to know all about. No you have 3 computers listed and 2 are notebooks, neither have a 59hz refresh rate, and i know you know a decent amount about the g71 and it doesn't have a 59 hz refresh rate. In fact.. there is almost no modern lcd screen that has a default 59hz refresh rate. 60 was the given standard during it's inception simply to make the mathematical and physical composition of a monitor simple in nature and design. I only stated that i felt that your were making a condescending statement only because you've made the assumption that more often that not people are retarded, which is simply poor faith in mans intelligence. However that conversation is neither here nor there, you've made your point i guess...

 

Have you ever actually seen a LCD that doesn't do 60hz?

 

Eurm I have some that do 59hz and not 60....

 

So i guess im not the only one with this problem? Can it be fixed?

 

O NOES!!!!!! i losts my 1HZ refresh. now i cant get 60fps, i need it....cuz i can actually see the difference

...................................if it was maybe 45hz or even 50hz vs 60hz then i would see a point in making this thread, but srsly???

 

exodusprime1337. Which Nvidia driver are you using. If you are using the 190 drivers, then that may be the problem. They are notorious for not being able to detect over 59Hz.

 

mine runs at full 60hz and im using win 7 pro rtm and dox 185.85

 

some apps/games only allow standard refresh rates like 60Hz

 

i am using the 186.81 or whatnot, i've had this issue since i started running win7. it's fixed with the rivatuner settings, but it wasn't without.. i tried a lot of things.

 

SRSLY.

Some games just won't run with a 59Hz refresh, BF2 comes to mind, and there are others. So just go away, please.

 

You can still play fancy pac man with 59mhz im having the same pob and bf2 still works.

 

enough of the flaming about whether you need it or not. The fact of the matter is that all the lcd's and even my 120hz led tv is at least 1hz lower then the rated spec that quite frankly, i paid for. In my personal preferences, i like everything to work at or better then its rated spec, hence overclocking, and payin high premiums for state of the art equipment. So if it was meant for 60hz, it needs to run at 60 hz, end of story.

I'm really not sure why this thread went this way, i'm kinda new here but not new to forums, and the type of arguments that ensued after i simply wanted to post something informative to help those whom were looking for an answer to a long standing problem with windows 7.

As far as whether or not it's nessessary to have 60hz i have a sensitivity to lcd refresh rates and i'm one of the supposed few that can actually tell the difference. I also use the lcd's to render large photos and 3d models for work and the refresh rate does in fact bother me not only because it isnt' running to spec but also because i noticed anomalies in the work i was doing with some of my more refresh sensitive programs such as maya and solid works. I sit for long hours in front of the pc not only gaming but working, and having the things i buy work right is a key feature.

So, no matter, say or type whatever you will. I simply wanted you all to be aware that it works and it was easy that's all.

 

I didnt know that 59 and 60 looked different, i can understand what your trying to say though..You payed for 60 not 59 so you expect to get exactly that.Its probably just a bug in win7 and youll get flamed alot here by some.When i ask questions and stuff about my gpu then i really get flamed with some uncalled for things.

 

OoO..sorry i didnt know that. so srsly if you have <60Hz it wont even work or what?

also, how do you know u are getting 59Hz? maybe the bug with win7 is that its showing 59Hz when its actually 60Hz...idk like you said, BF2 runs fine and the other guy said BF2 doesnt work at 59Hz, so thats my guess. Liek when you see it saying 59Hz, you want to believe its 59Hz vs 60Hz, thats why "claim" to see a differnce. just spitballing, sorry if this is completely off as an answer.

 

there are many different ways to find out, my monitors on screen displays will tell me the actual, it is a known bug with windows 7 that in some instances it will round the actual refresh of 59.94 down instead of up to 60. thus setting it at 61 or so lets it actually set 60hz

 

OK, here's the 411: I'm transitioning to a new laptop, so time's getting lost shuffling data around and so. NVidia's publicly available NVAPI support custom refresh rate adjustments, it'll take me a couple of days to sanitize the tool I wrote and post it here. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

ahh, well i thoguht maybe you do have the 60Hz refresh but the glitch is win7 showing it as 59hz...

 

It is a Windows 7 "bug".
Some screens are true 60 Hz others are 59.94 Hz. In previous versions of Windows, it was rounding the number up. Windows 7 seams to round it down.
If you check your monitor settings, there should have info page, and you will see it says 60 Hz, despite having the Windows saying "59 Hz".

Sadly, there is nothing that display drivers can do if they want to be certified.


Here is what you can do:
- Buy a true 60 Hz monitor (or higher)
- Hit on Microsoft to release a patch.
- Hit on game developer to release a patch to support 59Hz screen resolution.
- Using a VGA cable, many displays will only allow 60hz minimum via VGA cable.
- Disabling DDC/CI in the monitors controls.
- Pulling the Pin responsible for EDID (DDC/CI) from the VGA cable. And then installing a modified inf, to make everything work (I don't know any inf)

 

Refresh rates are all about CRT monitors anyway, LCD's simply don't refresh like they once did they are progressive panels and not interlaced. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate

So to the OP trying to fix a 00.03Hz shift is not going to do ANYTHING, and even less of anything on an LCD.

59.97Hz was used to add color to NTSC TV signals an eon ago and that is the leftover number used for syncing some TV's. It's not a W7 bug of rounding down differently at all.

 

Sorry to disappoint, but wiki is partially wrong (well, miss leading would be the proper term), LCD 100% need refresh rate.
When we say that LCD refresh rate doesn't mater, it means that it is of no real importance. The image won't flicker on you and cause you headaches.


Why do you have monitor computer monitors at 120Hz, or TV's at 240Hz+. Higher the refresh rate, higher a moving image appear "smooth" and precise onto the screen.

Here is a video explaining it all (jump at 10:00min in the video)
http://gizmodo.com/5314510/whats-the-deal-with-240hz-hdtvs

If you STILL don't believe it... Look at Nvidia 3D Vision. It require a true 120Hz LCD display if you don't want a headache while you use it. Nvidia 3D Vision, works by drawing 2 images at the "same" time, of 2 different angle (one for the left eye and the other right eye) in the game, and the glasses (which are LCD screens) blocks one of your eye from seeing the wrong image perspective when teh perspective of the other is being shown, then it switch eye and shows the other perspective. This is performed continuously at a 60Hz level. So as you can understand, your true 120Hz TV turns, when using Nvidia 3D Vision, down to a 60Hz per eye screen from your end. True 120Hz screen is required, else the glasses will be out of sync with the TV.

More info, explained a little better on the technology:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA-GeForce-3D-Vision-Glasses/?page=2

Here is a video for Nvidia 3D Visio if you have it:
http://http.download.nvidia.com/video/3d_Video/Heidelberg_576p.wmv
On the above video, you see 2 perspective angle of the video, like what each of your eyes sees. If you have Nvidia 3D Vision, both images "superimposed", or more like switching between either angle at a 60Hz level, 3D Vision glasses will hide your eye that is not supposed to see when the wrong perspective that that eye is shown.