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    6150 Go or X1100 mobile

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by PitbulI, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. PitbulI

    PitbulI Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now I know that no integrated graphics chip is intended for gaming but between the two:

    Nvidia Geforce Go 6150
    ATI Mobile Xpress 1100

    Now I know my old laptop with a ATI Xpress 200M could play NHL 07 with high level graphics with very little slowdown and that the 1100 and/or 6150 will do better than the 200M, I'm wondering out of the above two chipsets, which would be the better choice for just everyday browsing and a small amount of gaming when I'm bored.

    Now, I see two laptop for the price, one has the 6150, the other, the 1100. It is one of these two laptops I will choose from. I noticed on a few tests that while the 1100 has more pipelines, the 6150 has higher scores by a small margin in 3dmark tests.

    So the games I would play are Madden 07/08, NHL 07/08, Flatout 2, Star Trek Legacy and such.

    I know, I could spend more and get more but I'm not. I have a fast desktop and this laptop is hardly used for gaming at all.

    Thanks to anyone that can help.
     
  2. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    I believe the 6150 does GPU assisted HD decoding, but I'm not sure whether or not the X1100 does it.

    Even with that point aside, I'd still go with the 6150.
     
  3. Kdawgca

    Kdawgca rotaredoM repudrepuS RBN

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    I would say the xpress 1100 becuase
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568
     
  4. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    moved to gaming..
     
  5. HavoK

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    I would go with the X1100....I'm quite sure it's a slightly better performer although both are fairly bad at modern games.
     
  6. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I don't think you can go wrong with either GPU; they are both decent performers for integrated cards.

    If you mainly play OpenGL games, then go for the Nvidia card as it will be much better at that. ATI integrated cards are not good at OpenGL from what I am hearing. However, if the games you are playing now run fine on an X200M then I would just go with the X1100.

    What laptops are you looking at?
     
  7. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    That's the X1150 reporting the speed increase, becuase it's clocked higher. The OP is looking at the X1100, pretty much the X200, but running with DDR2 ram.
     
  8. moon angel

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    I dont think that's quite true... my x200m uses ddr2! Are we talking about dedicated ram here?

    If this is the only point of contention I would suggest the 6150 over the 1100 as the 6150 is the higher clocked version of the 6100 wheras the 1100 is the lower clock varient of the 1150... if that makes sense.

    Any way of finding out if either card has any dedicated ram?

    Also, does anyone know if the driver issues from the x200m apply to the 1100/1150?
     
  9. PitbulI

    PitbulI Notebook Enthusiast

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    The Compaq V6215 which is a Futureshop exclusive. Or a Acer 5102.

    Both have the exact same specs except one is nvidia, the other is ati.

    The 1150 would be a good choice perhaps but the 1100 is what is in the laptop.
     
  10. HavoK

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    What driver issues where there?
     
  11. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    I'd go with the 6150. If you were looking at an x1150, that'd be a different matter, but the 6150 should outperform the x1100, by a bit.
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

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    ATI dropped official driver support for the Radeon X200M integrated GPU, though there is a way to get the newer drivers working, it is detailed in the updating video card drivers guide:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=64910
     
  13. PitbulI

    PitbulI Notebook Enthusiast

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    I got the Compaq V 6215 with nvidia 6150 graphics. Thanks.

    I installed Madden 07 and NHL 07.

    In NHL 07, I max out the settings and it plays great, no frame rate issues.
    In Madden 07, I max everything out and for the first minute of gameplay, it looks like I get some slowdown but nothing terrible. I'll probably just lower the sideline detail and hopefully will get really smooth rates.

    If either game took advantage of a dual core CPU like I have, I wonder what the speed would be like of the game. It's too bad that I have this X2 but nothing that can take advantage of it. By the time it does, the graphics won't be able to power it.

    I also installed Star Trek Legacy, I can play at low settings and it doesn't look that bad. I know Half Life 2 worked with my old Turion ML-34 and Xpress 200M so I don't see a reason why I won't get better from this new laptop, just have to let Steam download it onto the laptop first.

    I wonder if I'll be able to run Supreme Commander or perhaps C&C 3 with this thing.

    I know, I know, spend more, get more but my desktop is my gaming machine. But, if I can play certain games on the laptop, that's cool too. I uninstalled Star Trek Legacy though.
     
  14. HavoK

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    The 200m is actually better then the 6150 in some benchmarks, so you won't see any 'improvement' if that's what you're looking for...

    Speed wise, utilizing two cores can sometimes help out somewhat, but to be honest those games you've mentioned are not demanding at all and any sort of x2 will tear through them without any issues.
     
  15. PitbulI

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    Yeah, the 200M is sometimes faster on older games but not the newer ones.
     
  16. R4000

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    This is interesting. I have had no problems installing any of the Radeon drivers on my 200M laptops, and currently have the latest release (7.2).

    Granted, I have not been installing the full packages. I just pick the "Individual Driver Download Packages" link and take the display driver from there. Has worked nicely every time, and without having that hoggish Catalyst Control Center. :D
     
  17. PitbulI

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    So, the 6150 would be the better choice then?
     
  18. Set

    Set Notebook Enthusiast

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    has anbody any idea if I can play CSS or BF2 with either one of these cards??
     
  19. stamar

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    You know a turtle can beat a snail in a race. But it doesnt really matter because they are both too slow
     
  20. Set

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    even for css, because pitbull wrote, that he played half life to on his old Laptop with an x 200 m
     
  21. Dustin Sklavos

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    6150 over Radeon.

    nVidia's drivers have fixed aspect ratio scaling, letting the assuredly low-resolution game still be played in the proper aspect. When both parts have the same performance, that gets my vote.

    Of course, it did. I got my HP. ;)
     
  22. moon angel

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    I have to use Omega drivers because ATi's own wont install on here, it says it cant find a compatible gpu! I've tried many different versions, all do the same.

    These graphics are ok for what I do but I'm not really very impressed. Their handling of openGL means some games are unplayable (city of heroes runs badly, WoW runs really well, go figure!), I have to have flash disabled on my main browser as it doesnt recognise my gpu and hands over gpu tasks to the cpu which then becomes maxed out and i have to start killing apps, there is of course the driver problem... the x200m has it's fair share of problems.