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    680M Low 3DMark 11 score?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by EddieHarris, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. EddieHarris

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    Did you have ThrottleStop 5.00 running in the background, your combined test score is low. You'll need ThrottleStop 5.00 to prevent the laptop from disabling Turbo Boost while running combined test or games that use CPU and GPU heavily at the same time.
     
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    I would uninstall you drivers via add/remove programs. Restart. Then fresh install 306.02 beta drivers from nvidias website
     
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    That seems about right for a stock score.

    You can overclock to increase it.
     
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    Just wondering, how are people getting scores like 6100 for stock drivers?! Another thing, my afterburner doesn't show the MHz numbers it simply tells me how much I can add which isn't very helpful when it comes to checking how high I can go, anyone know how to change this?
     
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    Combined test score 6100 is with core clock 900+ or 3720QM and the reason it's not showing the real MHz is because that result is captured before testing.

    Edit: In ThrottleStop 5.00, make sure you tick Set Multiplier and set it to Turbo, this needs to be done for ThrottleStop to work.
     
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    just to confirm. you only have EIST and C1E checked and set multiplier turbo checked? BDPROCHOT needs to be unchecked... then you need to hit turn on in the lower right
     
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    Hi Eddie
    i dont OC or use throttle stop or anything like that.
    readings will always be different and sometimes by 100 marks but i have no idea why its lower with TS than without TS
    just for example my scores in the last couple of weeks are:

    3dmark06
    21866
    23081

    Vantage
    P21475
    P21379
    P21464

    3dmark11
    P6109
    P6125
    P6122

    ive got 3720QM and 16gb ram so they will be slightly higher than yours.
     
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    Yea.. yours is a little weird, this is mine before I RMA'd mine. Only have the comparison for Core 915 because I was kinda late to find out without ThrottleStop running the Turbo Boost sometimes gets disabled.

    Look at the combined score, the difference is huge, and both are using the same driver.

    Without ThrottleStop 5.00:
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7276 3DMarks

    With ThrottleStop 5.00: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7373 3DMarks

    Notice the difference is only on the combined score because that mode relies heavily on both the CPU and GPU, it's the moment the P150EM will disable the Turbo Boost temporarily.
     
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    Hey yeah I have all of that set, I really cant understand why.. The thing is if you look at the bottom on my results you can clearly see my MHz being almost double. Really would like some help on this ^^

    Cheers for the info MrDj, see, I don't have an issue with having around 5900 on stock clocks, in fact I'm very happy when I'd compare it to my old desktop (4500) however, I would like at least the OPTION to overclock if i'd like to by using Throttle Stop and Afterburner as I've seen some peoples scores go pretty high with Throttle Stop alone.
     
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    I dont see why you are making a problem, dont experct miracles from a stock clocked gtx680m, if u start overclocking/overvolting the scores skyrocket, but your score is right I had the same with my 3610qm
     
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    I said I haven't got a problem and in fact I'm very happy with the stock scores. However, after trying Throttle Stop to "skyrocket" my scores like you put it, I get WORSE scores. I'm only trying to find out why.
     
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    Anyone got any ideas?
     
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    throttlestop is not giving your CPU any boost in those scores. its actually lowering your GPU scores which leads me to believe that it makes your CPU draw more power from you GPU. Check to make sure you have your power plan set to high performance. In the nvidia control panel you need to make sure you have power management set to maximum performance, not adaptive, and make sure you set it to prefer the nvidia card

    i could be wrong with my technical terms here, but im at work and dont have my laptop to reference for you :( if you havent solved this by the time i get off work tonight id be happy to follow up with better info for you
     
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    Cheers for all the help mate, I just changed my power plan to high performance and I'm about to give it a quick test run. Thanks so much for helping me from work mate! +rep
     
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    did you change the power management mode from adaptive to perfer maximum performance in the nvidia control panel? thats the only other idea i got. There others that are far more wise than I. hopefully they will see this and have an idea for you if that doesnt work.
     
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    Yeah I have, Cheers for all the help tho mate!
     
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    Yeah, that seems a bit low, my desktop 7850 gets about 5800 on 3Dmark11. Check your drivers and Throttlestop.
     
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    Oh! Make sure Vsync is off in the nvidia control panel!
     
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    Yeah its off haha, wondering if anyone else with the 680M has experienced this?
     
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    Do you guys think it would be worth flashing the vbios? I'm not really sure how to and don't particularly feel like bricking it.
     
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    my score flops around by +/- 200 which is normal. Its just not consistently 100 or so less with TS. It is usually the same or 50ish points higher with TS. the combined score is always 100-400 higher with TS on for me. I also have a 3720 though. your card is within acceptable scores. Its just odd that TS consistently lowers your GPU score. Its like it isnt able to pull enough juice from the wall or something (TS will increase power consumption some). Maybe try a different outlet?
     
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    Could you post a screen shot of your ThrottleStop setting?
     
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    I'll do better, I'll post a screen shot of everything I have up after doing a 3D mark test.
     
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    But it doesn't make much sense as the west with it off shows a lower processor clock speed that with the test and it turned on
     
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    Sent you a PM. Let me know how it goes.
     
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    Hey that wouldn't work on my clevo p170em would it?
     
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    Can you go to your Intel graphic panel and go to power tab and check if the power plans set for plugged in is Maximum Performance, this will affect the CPU's idle clock as well.
     
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    Yeah, I set that to maximum performance before the recent tests. I might flash it but I'd rather not if its something simple
     
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    fyi i have the 3720qm and 680m and getting the same score as you. I am not overly concerned. as long as my gaming is not affected. I don't have a problem..
     
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    Yeah I don't really have an issue but it would be nice to know that if I wanted to OC for a future game then I at least have the option. ThrottleStop SHOULD give better performance and it doesn't. Its the only reason I want to get this sorted.
     
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    You are making a big deal of nothing, u concerned about your stock scores, and spamming the forum really hard, I suggest you chill, I have the same on stock, but overclocked mine is a beast so dw.
     
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    I'm sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes, I really don't mean to. you said it yourself "but overclocked mine is a beast so dw", its nice to know your card can overclock because at the moment, with this ThrottleStop issue, it doesn't look like i'm going to be able to. So thanks for letting me know your card performs as expected when OC-d.
     
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    try punchin in +135 for your core clock and +400 for your mem clock and post your 3dm here... ill post mine on my lunch break for comparison

    with TS running of course
     
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    Since you two both got P170EM, and TS doesn't seem to make any differences on you two's P170EM. I think this Turbo Boost being disabled while dGPU is active only happens on the P150EM. Because with the P150EM the boost I'm seeing on combined score is pretty huge. TS also helped both the GTX675M and GTX680M on mine.
     
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    hack you took the words out of my mouth. i was just thinking the same thing after several 3dm runs.
     
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    Yeah deffinately +135 and +400... I might try a re paste but I really cant see that helping my score. I dunno man, guess my card just isn't all that great :(
     
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    It's a little low. This is mine with +135 on core and +400 on Mem.

    854/2200: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7098 3DMarks

    Max temp 73C. But that time when I testing it I was using a 3610QM, I bet with 3740QM it'd get into the 7180 zone.
     
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    I know I might be WAYYY off however, could it be possible that I'm lacking results due to my HDD and RAM? I have almost half as much RAM as you and I haven't got SSD. I am planning on upgrading both and if that does it... Im going to be shocked.
     
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    The RAM I'm using is 1600 but CL9, but not sure if this affects that much. If you ever (ever ever) want to game on the Intel HD4000 while using battery, 1866 RAMs will help a bit.
     
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