As I went to nvidia's website to download the latest driver, I noticed there was an option for 700M cards? When did those come out..haven't heard anything about them.
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chewbakaats58 Notebook Evangelist
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this is stupid.. just looked up the specs and these cards are nothing special..
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Yup. I wouldn't expect anything thrilling this year. They came with a big bang followed by a cloud of sulfur smoke last year introducing kepler line. This year's 780M will prolly be like 10-15% faster than 680m, if there will be a 'new' hi end card at all. 680M still very much kills, especially with over 300Mhz overclocks and with every new driver versions it gets faster. Its undying stock potential is proven by C3 beta, for instance.
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We will get GK114 a power tweaked GK104, how many shaders are unlocked and how fast the memory is though will all depend.
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Well obviously there will be nothing special about the first low-end card specs...
I can imagine the next flagship being awesome, and no matter how much "faster" it is than the 680M...... You realize how many new and AWESOME drivers have been coming out in the past few months.. Imagine a 780M after a couple months, will definitely be a beast. -
I almost thought this was about 780m, disappointed
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
What time was it last year that the 680m was first announced (with details of course?) Just wondering how long Nvidia will keep the lid on their new flagship.
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I say until the 680m starts to dissapear from the supply pipeline. $$$
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Computex 2012, the first few days of June. Computex 2013 might even be better this year. Haswell is gonna be released then and maybe the high end 700M series. Too bad its 4 months to go though
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
Thanks Cloud, didn't remember it being so late in the year. Guess that means it'll be a while before any concrete details emerge. -
I feel like the 680M hadn't even been out that long and everyone is already bummed about the wait for the 780M.
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LOL yeah, a year flies by so fast. A year in hardware is pretty long
Yup. I hate waiting for things. Tired of this notebook, want a different model.
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
lol I just got my 680m, but I'm still excited to see what's next, although I'll be pretty bummed when my 6 month old $2.5k laptop becomes obsolete
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680m came out in June 2012, but largely not available until end of June for Clevo machines. I know because I got one of the first GTX 680m's just before July 4. It has only been 6-7 months now. People shouldn't be bummed at all with 680m even if they bought it recently. It is a great buy, top of the line still, and even with the 7xx nVidia series, the new top end will likely only be 15-20% over the 680m *at best*. With overclock, performance is pretty spectacular. I would gather to say it will be at least a few months more before the flagship 700m series GPU is released. I don't see any game being released in 2013 that the 680m won't be able to perform admirably with. 700m series isn't a die shrink or new design, just improving the existing tech.
Unless AMD comes out with a 780m killer, I don't see nVidia doing much more than 15-20% over the 680m for this year. If anything the 680mx showed us that even with more shaders and faster RAM clocks gained no more than 10-15% so not sure that we'll see anything that much more substantial if they maintain the 100W TDP max requirement for MXM 3.0b -
This year will be nothing special. But next year will be as awesome as last year if everything goes according to plan and we get 20nm GPUs.
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I'm waiting for GTX 880M, GTX 780M can stay aside.
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Me the GTX 990m. I guess I am just more patient than you guys.
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LOL. There is rarely an x90m, usually x80m or x85m, and reason for wait for 880m is that it will be Maxwell tech using 20nm tech which will be cooler, use less power, and drastically improve performance in the same package size (or smaller).
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TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
If all goes well a 100W Maxwell mobile will perform like a current 180W card.
You can expect 10000+ gpu scores in 3dmark11 on a single gpu.
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
No doubt about it, probably much higher than 10k with overclocking. Just look at the performance between the 580m and 680m. My conservative guess is the 780m will pull off 7k-8k in 3Kmark11, the 880m could easily improve that 50% with stock scores over 12k. -
TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
Nvidia is aiming for an 80% improvement in performance/watt. If you do the math that would mean an 880m would get about 10800pgpu in 3dmark11 at stock. Now imagine how well such an efficient gpu would overclock.
We could be looking at 14k gpu score with an overvolt. Maybe even higher.
This is why I'm waiting for maxwell. It'll mop the floor with Kepler.
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Yep, that's what I'm expecting too. 680m should suffice until June 2014 when I plan on going Broadwell/Maxwell. Saving my pennies now.
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Wonder how good the heat sinks will remove heat from the chips once we get down to 20nm. The die will be very small
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TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
Yup. Same here. I want an m18x with two 880m's.
Another good thing is that Maxwell will eliminate cpu bottlenecking thanks to Project Denver.
The entry level broadwell quad will be overkill for gaming.
Hope it's not gonna be the gpu version of ivy bride. -
I think I am going to try and wait for the 900m series. It looks cooler than 800m. Like the 9800 GTX looked cooler than the 8800 GTX, (ancient history by now)
At that point hopefully I won't need 2 computers, one for power and another for battery life. but 2.5+ years is a long way off... Heck I might not even be playing games at that point
I wonder what the prices will be. It is amazing how much cheaper top end units are now compared with those from yester year. A top end SLI system being "only" $2500. that is almost a grand less than the M1730's from 4-5 years ago. And a unit that can outperform those old $3250+ units and have great battery life being only $600... Exciting -
failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
Crossfire setups can be had for around $2.5k, but they still get a whole lot more expensive than that unfortunately. 680m sli notebooks can easily get above $5k. -
TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
Yeah and they easily humiliate AMD's cfx setup for that price.
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
lol no comment
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I have a feeling that the fate of the 700M series will be determined by the release of Titan. If GK110 is going to be used as the basis of the 700 Series high-end, then expect the 780M to be around a 770 with a GK110-derived core. Otherwise, it will be based off of a Kepler GK104 refresh of sorts.
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If the 780M is going to be the GK110 with some cores disabled and still has Hyper-Q enabled, then I'm surely switching from 680M to 780M lol.
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So sad and so true.
I purchased a laptop (w110er) last week for about $1100 to get the 650m card after a significant period of time where I couldn't make up my mind between that or another laptop with the 680m for $2200. I ended up deciding that I can wait about 2 years or more until the Maxwell cards are well-settled into the market. And THEN, I will get a top of the range laptop as I will be working.
However, this is my final year of med school, and in 2 years time I will probably be applying for registrar positions with 60-80 hour work weeks. I may not be as poor a student then, but I doubt I'll have the time to play all (or any) of the games I want.
It's sad. Perhaps I should have just gone with the 680m and enjoyed games this year with the best possible graphics. -
TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
No way. The 780m will be a fully unlocked gk114 with somewhat faster ram. Two 780m's in sli will have around the same performance as the GK110,maybe sligthly slower but we all know that OC potential will be huge.
With some oc magic a 780m sli should be about as fast as a 690 in most cases. -
failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
680ms in sli can already reach stock 690 levels. 780ms should do well. -
TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
It's so damn tempting to jump on an m18x this year but I know I'd regreat it when Maxwell comes and blows Kepler out of the water. lol -
failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
Dude, that's an entire year away. There's always something better around the corner bro, especially when it comes to tech. You should just upgrade now and enjoy it! Resale value is good on these machines, so you can always sell it after a year and upgrade to Maxwell
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TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
If I actually buy something it'll be a 780m for my gt780. Hope they add hyperq to the new mobile cards.
700M cards?
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by chewbakaats58, Jan 30, 2013.