7150m VS 6150m VS X3100 vs X1200

I'm looking to get a bargain Black Friday notebook, and I'm trying to find out which integrated mobile graphics processor is the most capable for a game like Team Fortress 2. Please, any help would be very much appreciated.
nVidia 7150m
nVidia 6150m
Intel X3100
ATI X1200

 

Hmm.. not sure, but what I am pretty sure of is that the 6150 is the worst of the four.

 

Their all pretty much the same. There isn't one card that will perform above and beyond the rest.

If you really had to rank them, it would be x1200, x3100, go 7150, go 6100. But like I said before, the differences between them are not great. They will all pretty much do the same in games.

What you need to watch for is the power of the cpu. Since IGPs are dependent on cpu power, you want to get the most powerful cpu that comes in those 4 machines. That's what's gonna make the most difference between those 4 cards.

 

if i had to rank it

x1200
x3100
7150
6150

 

i got the 7150 in my hp and i think its the best of the list you mentioned.

 

Why do you say that? Have you benchmarked it against the others?

 

I'd go for the X3100 they're all pretty much terrible at gaming anyhow.(DX10 support?!)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-X3100.2176.0.html It is the most powerful among them also.

 

am i missing something or the article that you pointed to does not even have benchmarks for the Nvidia Go 7150M

 

You are missing something. Look at CLASS 5, to check the IGP board...

 

The notebook check is not really good site to see the performance.
look at nvidia 8600gt.... they don;t really have it

 

They used to have the 8600m GT stats, but for some reason were deleted a while back.

 

Notebookcheck is not very reliable because they use only 3DMark scores. 3DMark isn't very reliable because the GPU manufacturers cheat in it to get abnormally high scores. Take for example how the GMA 950 scores about 500-600 in 3DMark05, about the same as the RADEON x1150. But you'd have to be insane to recommend the GMA 950 over the x1150 for any games. Among the cards you've listed, in terms of theoretical power, I'd say the order is roughly:

x1270
X3100
GF 7150M
Go6150

as many others have said. But with the current state of Intel's drivers, you can expect the X3100 to be outperformed by two slices of buttered toast held together by a string. Essentially, the rule with IGPs is to go with whatever system has the best other specs and doesn't have "Intel," "SiS," or "S3" associated with the graphics card. They'll all be pretty abysmal for even semi-modern gaming.

 

I have an x3100 with vista. When i run 3dmark05, i get 915. However, that is because the devs programmed the x3100 driver to run in software shader mode by default for 3dmark05 (very deceiving). If you FORCE 3dmark05 to run in HW mode (this can be done by editing the reg), I get 625 points.

x3100 is absolutely crap. Don't believe all the talk that its just the XP drivers. this card is simply not powerful enough to utilize hardware shaders. Compatibility without the performance.

 

The x3100 has good hardware. Once intel polishes the drivers its going to kick butt.

I used the x1270 and benchmarked it and its NOT faster than the x3100 actually it benched nearly the same.

The 6150m is absolutly at the bottom of the list. It does not compare to the the other three.

All in all it does not matter. The x1270, x3100, and 7150m have nearly the same performance. The only benefit ATI and Nvidia based IGPs have over Intels x3100 is extra features like AA and AF ect....

 

I will post a video that how my system runs, and I will also show you that games like Farcry runs much better on hardware T&L. It seems that so many people are not believing Intel's claims that some games run better on hardware T&L.

Oh well, time to prove them wrong.

 

I can confirm Command & Conquer Generals runs WAY FASTER when hardware T&L is enabled. Night and day difference! Noxxle99 does not know what hes talking about.

 

This guy posted in another thread that Crysis is PLAYABLE on the x3100 because he achieved 10 fps. LOL

 

Xp or Vista? and did you test SW and HW modes by editing the registry?

 

Man, that's just one game. I have told you the frames per second on other games and they get 30-50 fps. Believe whatever you want.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html Just had to click another link for it...
LOOK AT #26 on the list.
And also, 3dmark score IS VERY relevant, it give you an pretty good idea of the GPU, and system, for that matter.

 

3Dmark is not very consistent, just look at the GF8600/HD2600 Bungholiomarks versus the X1950Pro/XT. The new mid-range cards get awesome 3D mark results, but their actual performance, not so stellar.

It's a good quick reference for general idea of performance, but not for more precise decision making.

 

Some benchies of the GMA3100 ad GF7150 chipsets (in desktop form) doing real world work;

http://www.sysopt.com/features/mboard/article.php/12027_3707051_5

http://www.hkepc.com/?id=176&page=6#view

 

That's G33, which is basically based off a GMA 950. GMA 3100 and X3100 is different.

 

Hm, I see they finally fixed the link...

 

I'd say(in order of best to worst):

Intel x3100
ATI X1200
Nvidia 7150
Nvidia 6150

 

no way is intel x3100 a gaming card what good games can you run on full detail with an x3100? and still be smooth and playable.

its ati or nvidia if u really had to play on an intergrated chip,. dont even think about intel ^^

 

I can run Half Life 2: Max settings, 1280x800, no AA at 25-35FPS
UT 2004 Max, 1280x800, 40+FPS
NBA Live 03 max 1024x768, 40+FPS
etc.

Besides, I bet you just hate intel cause you're a AMD/ATI user.

 

ol ive got friends i listen to whining about their intel cards gma950 or x3100, ive heard enough bad experienes alredy, + everyone uses ati or nvidia for gaming anyway, never heard anyone praise intel for their video card capabilities.

btw command and conguer tiber\ium wars keeps crashing an runs as slow with the x3100 =/

if i want to play pre-2005 games il go with my geforce4 64mb

 

Tell them they need to uninstall the driver first, then install the new one. I haven't had any problems with my x3100.

What are you talking about? It works on my 3100. Guess I just have better specs than you.

Pre-2005 is all you can you can play as well. Xpress 1270 sucks, same with a GefoRce 4 series

 

The x3100 is faster than the ATI x1270. I had the x1270 and now have the x3100 and can tell for for sure games run faster on the intel x3100.

 

Perfect lineup!

 

lol i really never got the laptop for gaming anyway. just to do my graphics

im happy with my gaming line up heck i can play halo2 here and cod4 (not of max of course lol)

whats the new drivers version? il pass it on to them might help.
lol ur the intel fanboy you know they never did mark intel in minimum requirements only ati and nvidia ^^ ati and nvidia PWnz0r xD i bet the 1270 would smoke the x3100 anyday any game.

 

We have 3 notebooks in my household my brother has a toshiba w/X1200 and it runs half life 2 very good, Guild wars about avg. Fps 22, Team fortress 2?not good there's alot of graphic clip in and breaking invisible walls. F.e.a.r actually ran Better i tried on low setting and medium and decided to set it on medium you'll have most of the effects with decent FPS at 38 at a low 800X600 resolution. is X1200 good? Maybe for some games from 2005 and down but not for newer games.

My wife owns a HP Dv6500 with the x3100 and at first i was impress with half life 2 but when i tried to play f.e.a.r. i could'nt get it to run so i didn't bother with but it would most likely due to the beta drivers i woud think you'll get 30 FPS or so...i have not tried TF 2 i will try later now Guild Wars avg.8-22 Fps.

I can not comment on the other cards cause i don't know about them unless i've use or seen actual footage i can't give you an opinion on them...

the Third notebook is mine M550 7600 2.0 ghz runs everything pretty good newer games Medium settings older games like F.e.a.r almost maxed out and i say almost cause i can get the resolution to 1280X800 i gotta play it in the highest option witch is 1024X768X32. Now keep im mind my brother owns the notebook w/X1200 but doesn't really play games, same thing with my wife its usually for Pics and Videos and mostly web surfing for the X3100.

 

Keep in mind that you'll see a lot of CPU and RAM limitations when comparing IGP's. ATI 12X0's are only commonly found on AMD laptops, so while the video may be comparable to Intel X3100, a better CPU on the X3100 will make a big difference. Obviously the amount of RAM, speed and latency also effect IGP performance.

The orginal poster was looking at Black Friday specials, but I'll expand to overall low-end laptop pricing since Black Friday is long past us.

If you are looking at a Celeron with X3100 vs a low end Turion with 1200, then I'd go with the Turion. If its a Pentium Dual Core with X3100 vs a Turion X2 and 1200 then it'd be close. If its any of the Core 2 Duo line with X3100 vs Turion X2 and 1200m then I'd choose the Core2. Keep in mind that RAM differences can still make a big difference and if any of the above CPU's are at the extreme high or low end of their segment that can make a diffence too.

Still I'd say the list is something like this:

X3100 tie X1270
7150
6150

 

i ran COD 4, on lowest settings on a 2gb ram 1.8 ati X1270. and got like 8 fps

i ran COD 4, on lowest settings on a 2gb ram 1.9 nVIDIA 7150 and got about 20 fps...

the 1270 has 384 dedicated memory and 575 shared

the 7150 has 64 dedicated memory and 535 shared. Why would the 7150 run it so much better ? .. both on vista. Both on out of box computers.

is the 7150 just better ???

 

or is COD4 just nVIDIA friendly ...

 

It maybe like you said Nvidia Friendly but...? i doubt that's the issue here...

 

Nvidia friendly hehe its they way its meant to be played

 

After all this BS I came to one conclusion:

Don't get a X3100 based laptop if you are gonna use the integrated graphics for ANY gaming.

No, just don't get it. There are better options. Get Nvidia's 7150M, or ATI/AMD's X1250/X1270. Hell, even AMD X300 integrated is better(Xpress 200M chipset). Actually you might even want to skip Santa Rosa and get a GMA 950 if you want a Intel CPU and Intel chipset. Even though the GMA950 is technically inferior to the X3100, at least the drivers and the hardware were stable.

 

WOW. I think games run fine, as long as you can accept Framerates ranging from 10-30 on modern games at low settings. Older games run fine at high settings and high resolution.
Santa Rosa Ftw!

 

yeah i still dont get it ... i had aero and all memory hungry display options on vista off ... and some scenes from COD4 got me 8fps .... (on the gateway t-1620 which uses 1270)..

Im going to measure the hp dv6636 for fps tomorrow ... but when i ran it, it was about 20 fps atworst (all based on the lowest settings possible) ... vista aero was on too .... wtf

spec wise, the 1270 should be better =( ... i hate to give up the gateway .. its got HDMI =( ...

but i like COD4... #$@#$$##

i wish someone could just tell me the 7150 is better ... aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ...

and tomorrow is my last day to make the decision ..... (return policy will be up) ...

 

Don't even bother trying to run games on those IGPs, they are all terrible. However if you have to choose, I would go with Centrino Duo... Core 2 Duo + Mobile 965 Chipset (X3100) + Intel Wifi 4965AGN because it's a great platform with great energy saving features. It's much more reliable than AMD's terrible budget platform. Intel has a lot of experiences with mobile platforms because they have been doing it for so long, unlike AMD.

 

Do all of them consume the same about of power?

 

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3117

Well from the Anandtech test, the Intel platform lasts longer with smaller battery than the AMD one.

You are satisfied with what you got. Good for you. Except that with X3100, it doesn't really catch up to the competition. It can do that with XP and X3000 in desktop, but not only the G965 in the X3000 is getting old, the OS is getting old too. Plus laptop users are stuck with the IGP.

 

Yup. It's best to use FPS on games to test performance rather than 3D mark. Remember the nVidia FX series and how they cheated? The quality rendered by nVidia during the benchmarks are no way near the ones rendered by ATI. So yeah, they cheated.

Just play something like DOOM 3 or FEAR, and check the FPS.

Though, the best combination is to get an integrated laptop and a power desktop.

I bet a laptop with the x3100 has a much longer battery life than one with a dedicated graphics card. And it's also lighter and more mobile.

 

Ok guys i need help. Ive seen loads of posts around the net about people playin games like h2 on a 7150m and gettin up to 30fps. I hav the 7150m (i kno its bad! you dont need to tell me ) and h2 but havnt managed to get more than about 4fps.. Where am i going wrong?
Ive got an HP Pavilion dv6915nr and...
My specs are:
AMD Turion 64 X2 2Ghz
200gb hd
3gb RAM
nVidia Geforce 7150m
Vista home premium 32bit

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

I'm not sure about the 6150 and the x1200 but the 7150m in my dad's compaq v3715 outperformed my x3100 in almost every games I tried.

I've got more than 30fps in HL2 with the 7150 with only 1gb of ram BUT in XP, I think why don't you downgrade to XP, you will get a lot of performance.

 

Ok thanks, i had a feeling it might have something to do with the memory hungry vista as i have a 2-3 year old toshiba sattelite that can play h2 better on XP. However, i am quite content with vista and anyhow i don't have the funds to buy xp so if anyone else has any helpful info or tips on how to combat this problem they would be much appreciated.

 

to put this topic to rest.

I owned a 7150m and a x1270..the x1270 is quite a bit better than the 7150m..

3dmark scores were about 1000 points higher in 05 with the x1270, and from a review of the 7150m vs the x3100 i think in this forum, the 7150m clearly gets better framerates in all games, and in some is even getting betterframertaes with a higher res..

the rank

x1270>>7150m>x3100>6150

thats that, if you dont agree i suggest you do what i did and own the two laptops and see for yourself, or visit futuremark.com and look up each cards 3dmark05 results..

I know 3dmark isnt very accurate when it comes to games, however in ccs stress test I got 5 fps more than my overclocked 7150m. and in cod4 It was playable with high textures and lowest rez, all other settings low.

 

Wow you are an annoying person arent you. Its not a topic to be "put to rest" as you so wonderfully put it...i just require some help so if you would just button it and take your big head somewhere else we would be grateful.
So thats that and if you dont agree i suggest you shove it up you a**