750M vs 765M

I'm looking at laptops. I'm going to want to game on it on the future, although I'm okay with medium/low settings. If I get something with a 750M, is it going to be able to handle most new titles on Low in a few years? What about on 1600 by 900?

I like the XPS 15, but I'm hesitant on pulling the trigger on it over something like the Razer Blade, even though the latter has a horrible display and the QHD+ display is beautiful and a major selling point.

 

750m will not be able to push games that long, card is too weak to hold you few years.

Go with alteast 770m if you want to play new titles.

 

Imo, when shopping a laptop for or partially for gaming, the main consideration shouldn't be how much detail you're able to get, or how much is possible to push on the platform. But how much grunt you're able to get, while still having good cooling, on a reasonable powersupply. As well as how much battery-time you're likely to get, and if it's at all possible to run games while on battery.

In that sense, the 750m is a really good choice in a reasonably well-cooled slim chassis. Specially the automatic upclock towards the limit of the card is very convenient, since you can shave off some of the frame-drops without actually increasing the tdp envelope.

Since when moving to a 770m, you also increase the watt-drain to some 75w from 35-40w on the 750m - and there's still miles and miles up to a desktop card. That also would be cheaper to get and keep upgraded well. I.e., you could put an i3 and a radeon card, or something similar, into a mITX cabinet, and get massively better output even on air-cooling. And then buy a 750m laptop, and still have money to spare over the 770m setup. The 750m setup also won't melt the table, that sort of thing.

In fact, a 750m is on the upper end of what current chassis can comfortably deal with, because of the way it edges up towards 45w drains on peak. Alternatively, going up towards a 70-80w card, you're looking at something like a 4kg chassis with dual exhaust, that essentially is married to the wall-socket anyway.

Just my 2c.

 

765m at 1600x900 should be fine for a few years, but I don't know if the Razer is really worth the money. You can find better priced options with 765m, but I guess you want something thin. What's the price of the Dell with the 750m?

 

well if you are planning to play @ QHD res, there is NO laptop able to do that
about the XPS with GT 750M, it got a stupid ULV CPU by the Dell (the only manuf. who doesnt sell mainstream laptop with normal Voltage CPU's) i don't think it will stand long with the games and all of that stuff.
the razer isnt very $/perf worth. you can get easily a clevo/sager 15.6 FHD 90% NTSC screen with GTX 780M with a comparable price
if i was you, i would go for the clevo/sager

 

the cps 15 can be configured with standard voltage cpus

 

yeah go for clevo/sager..i heard that some model i think P150sm?has a gpu which you can exchange in 2-3 years after it becomes weak

 

The nifty thing with the QHD is that it quite easily drops to 1600 x 900 if you scale it down. That's why I'm asking. Gaming on the XPS 15 and the Razer will have equivalent res. The major difference is that the former won't look horrid while doing other things.

Cleo/Sager is just too heavy. I'm going to be travelling a lot. I want something light. The only laptop that's thin and light and has a 765M is the Razer. If only it had a slightly better display.

The Dell with the 750M is $1900. It also has twice the RAM of the Razer Blade 14. And Ports.

 

Sager W230ST then

 

The 750M is for multimedia laptops, laptops that mainly do video editing and light gaming (XPS 15, N550JV, rMBP, Y510p, V7-482PG) whereas the 765M is a lot more gaming-oriented, and will almost exclusively be found in gaming laptops (Clevo W230ST/MSI GE60/Razer Blade).

 

MSI GE40/GE60 are an idea. The GS70 is light as well, but it has a 17,3 screen.

 

A 750M really needs to be in SLI for serious gaming above 720P IMO. In the next couple years it's going to fall behind quickly and you'll be stuck running things at less than native resolution or at very low settings. It's a great multimedia card, but really isn't designed for heavy gaming.

 

As an owner of GT 650M I can attest to how the GT X50M series is not very future-proof. It was only a year before I was desperately looking to upgrade from my GT 650M, evcen though I was happy with it when I first bought it (which is why I now have Clevo laptop). I would say minimum is anything with GTX prefix, there really is no point in going lower as they are outdated much faster than the GTX series. This is mostly due to the GTX series using GDDR5 while GT series primarily use DDR3, even X50M. I think the GT 750M is a GDDR5 GPU so it shouldn't be anywhere near as bottlenecked as the GT 650M was. I would still say go for the GTX 765M, it will last you longer guaranteed.

 

gtx 660m = gt 750m

 

Minimum is anything with 192-bit RAM bus width.

 

Actually GTX 660M < GT 750M.

So you have below minimum then? OK...

 

To get any longevity out of it, yes, or you quickly get relegated to 720p. If that's ok with you, then that's your prerogative. Just the wider bus keeps the FPS higher and higher res for longer is all. I don't play that much any more so it suits me just fine.

 

Not really, go check some latest notebookcheck tests of CoD ghost, batman, BF4 and you will see that GTX660 beats 750m in everything.

 

The thing about NBcheck is that they use the DDR3 version in their benchmarks.

They even stated on the 750M page:

"Depending on clock speed, the GT 750M with DDR3 memory is about 10 - 15 percent faster than the GT 650M. The very rare GDDR5 version even beats the GTX 660M. Most current games (as of 2013) can be played fluently in high settings. In older titles, there are also reserves for additional quality features like AA and AF. Detailed benchmarks can be found further down on this page."

And Octiceps is right.

 

indeed, the 69xm and 580m/675m is pretty good @1080p, though they do get hot

 

Yes they do get hotter. But those are 256 bit gpu..

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