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    7600 or 7900??

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by fizzyflaskan, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. fizzyflaskan

    fizzyflaskan Notebook Guru

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    Hi, I'm going to get a laptop , however I want the computer to be as small as possible but still be great at games. Therfore It will be 15.1"-17", but wich card is more worth the size and preformance ( the 7600 will be a littel bitt cheeper) so what should I choose?? ( Want it to least a few years to....) :confused:
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    If you want it to be small and powerful, you could look at a 14.1" laptop with a 7600 in it (like I have). You will only find the 7900 in 17" or larger notebooks, but it's much, much faster than the 7600. So it's really a choice you have to make. I personally went with the smaller, more portable but still pretty good at games (I can play Far Cry with all effects on with no slowdown at full res), rather than the larger, non-portable gaming beast.
     
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    if you want small, then i suggest the 7600 because its supposed to be a great card. 7900 is more for hard-core gaming, so unless u are doing that i suggest the 7600 because it should be enough
     
  4. Leshii

    Leshii Notebook Evangelist

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    7900 and 7600 are worlds apart in terms of performance. However, I doubt that you'll find 7900 in midsized notebooks.

    So if don't want a 17" notebook then you don't actually have any choice. But, I must say, if you get 7900 you will not be disappointed!
     
  5. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    If you really want a mobile computer go for 14.1/15.4 with 7600/7700 these notebooks are powerful enough.

    Otherwise, you can get a 17" with 7900+ but this is not a mobile computer but rather "small desktop" so better buy a desktop.
     
  6. sublime

    sublime Notebook Evangelist

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    That makes no sense. Last I saw nobody can take their desktop, throw it in their backpack, and use it in class. I do all the time with my laptop.

    The choice you need to make is size. Personally, I think 17" notebooks are VERY easy to carry around, others would disagree. If you want something below 17", get the 7600. If you want a 17", get the 7900. I'd go to a store and compare sizes to see what you'd like
     
  7. rickster

    rickster Notebook Evangelist

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    like others said, the 7900 is in 17inch laptops and the 7600 is in 15.4 inch laptops

    if you want your video card to last then obviously you're going to want to get the 7900, right now it can play the latest games with good settings with no problems. Another factor you may want to consider is resolution, wxga verses wuxga. If you want to play future games in your native resolution, then wxga screen is your best bet.

    going from the 7600 to the 7900 is worth it for gaming, especially if you find some nice deals/coupons
     
  8. Blake

    Blake NBR Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    The 7900 is roughly twice as fast 7600. If you want to play games on that laptop for awhile, I would advise not getting WUXGA, so that you can play games under your computer's native resolution for longer.
     
  9. Zellio

    Zellio The Dark Knight

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    You want it to last a few years?

    All the pro 7600 people don't get one thing...

    Take one look at this game coming up in a few months and tell me it'll run on a 7600...

    [​IMG]

    I thought so.

    If you're gonna get this for business, you'll be okay with a small laptop. But you want a powerful one for games. YOU WILL NEED A POWERFUL LAPTOP.

    I'd personally suggest a 17" sli laptop...
     
  10. Dustin Sklavos

    Dustin Sklavos Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    You overdo everything, don't you?

    A 7600 will be plenty for Crysis. Will it render it quite like that screenshot? No. But keep in mind that's pretty close to a bullshot. I've seen video of Crysis running in realtime and while it's amazing, it's also pretty clear that the game is fairly optimizable (hey, just like Far Cry was!)

    I game fine on my Go 7600 and my 7600GT, and for what it's worth, the Go 7900 isn't terribly faster than a desktop 7600GT. 256-bit memory bus and 20 pipeline design notwithstanding, its clocks are somewhat crippled.

    Yes. It will run on a Go 7600. There isn't a game out right now outside of that badly coded hackjob Oblivion that won't run at 1280x800 on a Go 7600 with good settings (AA doesn't count, it's a frivolity).

    An SLI laptop is a waste of money, especially given DX10 parts are around the corner. This guy's clearly interested in getting something at least marginally portable, not a 12 pound land monster. Frankly I think his best buy would be an ASUS A8Js with the Go 7700. That's a healthy amount of GPU power in a very portable package. It's certainly not worth making the jump up to a 17" notebook for a GPU that's:

    a. 50% more powerful than the Go 7700, if that.
    b. Just going to offer an unnecessary surplus of processing power on all but the most recent games anyhow.

    My recommendation is the A8Js. I can say with certainty and experience that you really don't need more power than that in a notebook right now; more than that is just gravy.
     
  11. fizzyflaskan

    fizzyflaskan Notebook Guru

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    thx for all answears, I think it will be a 15" when I'am going to use it at school to and don't want to carry a ig clumsy notebook
     
  12. Zellio

    Zellio The Dark Knight

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    You game fine on current technology.

    Quake 4 runs bad on my laptop which has a x1800 for crying out loud...

    [​IMG]

    And Crysis more then quads the use of textures and polys.

    [​IMG]

    In fact, the e3 version of Crysis was running on a x1900, which is far more powerful then a 7600 go.

    http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=409&card2=377

    Yeah, um... Good luck with that...

    I respect you as a writer, but I think it's a grave mistake to get a 7600 if you want to game nowadays... If it's business it's fine... Light gaming, fine... But if you want to keep it for a few years, might wanna think about something else...
     
  13. Zellio

    Zellio The Dark Knight

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    The problem of course is directx10... to be quite honest, I'd say you picked a bad time if you were wanting to upgrade and wanted to keep it a few years. I'd honestly wait a few months and see what happens, see if dx10 cards DO come. Some people may rep me bad, but you may find you win in the end.
     
  14. fizzyflaskan

    fizzyflaskan Notebook Guru

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    Okej, don't have any rusch to get one so I think I'll wait until least a few month like you say...
     
  15. Zellio

    Zellio The Dark Knight

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    It's for the best. They may or may not have directx10 cards (I doubt they will, but who knows, they could, I would honestly wait and see, I've been wrong before)... At the very least, considering the way 15" laptops are progressing, in a few months when dx10 cards DO come out you'll either have lower prices, 15" cards with 7900gs's/1900xt's, or a combination of the two... or dx10 cards. I think you'll be a happy camper.

    One final thing, if you find a sale on a 15" laptop, I'd say go for it. Just make sure it's a good one :p
     
  16. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    It's relative. However, I personally don't think that 17" notebooks are easy to carry around considering the size, the battery life (important for mobility!) and the space that they need (on the desk, cafe, plane ? ...)
     
  17. sublime

    sublime Notebook Evangelist

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    Well of course the bigger they are, the harder they are to carry. But to say you should just get a desktop if you want a 17" laptop is asinine. A desktop is just that, a computer that sits at your desk. A 17" laptop:

    Size: I carry may laptop around almost every day. I was in the Army for 2 years, and carried a rucksack all the time. Even with my computer in it, I don't find my backpack heavy

    Battery life: What is wrong with 3 hours?? My 17"er gets the same battery use as my wife's 13.3" Asus W7J. You're still living in the 90's, batteries have come a long way

    Space: I use mine at my desk. They aren't THAT big. It's no wider than your lap, so if you can sit in a seat, it should fit on your lap.

    I agree 17" isn't for everyone, just like a 12" isn't. But there is no reason someone should just go buy a desktop because they want a 17" notebook. That's just stupid
     
  18. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    I said that it's relative means personal preference and I said what I personally think.

    As for the desktops, I said that because I know many people who regret buying a 17" laptop...just because they expected something different but yes if someone really want a 17" notebook and know what exactly it is. I agree no reason to go for a desktop.

    Battery life, I've seen notebook like your to last up to 2+ hours, but the most of the 17" have no more than 1,5 bat. life (check it). I live in the 21 century and I prefer at least 4 better 5 why not 6 hours with 15.4 (all that possible)

    Size: most people have problem with carrying even a 15.4" notebook (check "what should I buy", make a survey)

    Space: Have you tried it on a plane? A 17" is bigger than some people...

    but all that is relative .... I'd carry a 19" with no problems but that's not a reason to recommed it or to say that it's "VERY easy to carry around" as you did, so it's just stupid to say "VERY easy" or I have to say that a 15.4" is "extremely easy" and 14.1 "incredibly easy"... 13 or less ?? "unnaturally easy" :)

    OK, I think we do not need to start a pointless argument about relative things...

    I would recommend anyone looking for any kind of laptop to check it in person.
     
  19. sublime

    sublime Notebook Evangelist

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    That last sentence is probably the best one in this thread. I never said anyone should get a 17", I am just making readers aware that your "If you are going to get a 17" notebook you should just get a desktop" comment is completely innaccurate.

    You are just making stuff up now anyway, as I never at any point said a 17" is very easy to carry around. I specifically said I find it easy, and that others would disagree. Also, my computer does not get 2+ hours of battery life, it get's more like 3+. 3 exactly to be perfect.

    I am not trying to sell anyone on any computer, and never had. YOU said that people should buy a desktop if they want a 17" notebook, and I am just letting people that this comment may potentially effect that this statement was completely untrue
     
  20. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    OK. Sorry. I did not say it in the best way. Yes it's not correct I agree. Actually, it's definitely wrong. OK?

    By the way, something quite funny was said just before a while in a similar discussion:

    the original poster is not important but obviously my words are not the most extreme case

    However, that makes me wonder... have you tried it as a tent? :D (I'm joking)

    deal?
     
  21. Notebook Solutions

    Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer

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    Guys please keep it clean on this forum :)

    17" is portable, but you do not really want to bring it to school unless you are a professional bodybuilder :) Just a joke, but 17" is hard to walk with I think. I once took my 15.4" to the University and man my shoulder was hurting after 2 hours (notebook = 3 kg, books and bag = 3 kg). A 17" can be 4 kg at least.

    But if you are a real gamer and if you bring your notebook once in a week to school, then go for the 17". Much better GFX, great screen.

    I recommend you to go and see the notebooks for your self. Hold them in your hand, check their weight.

    Charlie :)