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    7970m...how high can it overclock?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HopelesslyFaithful, May 9, 2012.

  1. DumbDumb

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    well i ment your 3dmark11 run.. that was stable at those clocks
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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  3. DumbDumb

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    yea see this a huge difference in what you said for clocks and what your test show.. show me a stable 1020/1650 bench of any kind and ill be a believer..

    but right now your core is at 860 and memory is 1650.. not the 1020 you said..
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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  4. Mr. Fox

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    Both of my 7970M are over-volted and it's working real nice. Nice benchmarks, bro.
     
    Mr. Fox, May 31, 2012
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    at what your claiming the driver for me on 1 card just repeatedly crashes the driver.. let alone trying to bench..
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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  6. HopelesslyFaithful

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    ....slickdude gets 1000 in some stuff otherwise runs at 995 and i think he said thats stock voltage.....1020 is not hard to believe with overvoltage

    edit: dumb dumb you got 7970 in crossfire? i thought that wasn't done yet
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, May 31, 2012
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    it always shows 860 in the benchmark cause it wont kick my clocks in till it starts. Many 7970m have this in the benchmarks, look at other 7970m 3dmark links ....(dot dot dot
     
    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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    Is it really necessary to overclock the 7970m? Isn't it more than sufficient for any game out there at 1080p?
     
    HTWingNut, May 31, 2012
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    every 7970m OC 3dmark shows the core clock as lower cause for some reason it wont kick in till the program starts and 3dmark doesnt scan your system clocks during benchmarking, im using afterburner. It shows my clocks always at 860 and the vram at max, as soon as i stress, boom 1020. Do you really think i could hit those high scores with the core at 860? seriously?

    EXAMPLE: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3489699 this person ran at stock clocks, but notice the core clocks are at only 300
     
    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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    yeah and it shows ur core at 860 as well, do you believe me now? btw sick score

    im using 1075v vbios 900/1300....then i overclocked to 1020/1650

    my card at stock voltage wont even overclock to 950, but bumping it to 1075v made it OC very well.
     
    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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  12. DumbDumb

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    P6375 is what i was able to get one 1 card and 1ghrz and 1400 memory..
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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    on stock voltage you can do 950/1350 all day long..
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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  14. HaloGod2012

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    sounds right, me being able to jack up the bandwidth helps a lot, hence my 6800k score.
     
    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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  15. DumbDumb

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    1m believing every thing except the 1600 memory.. not saying you didnt do it.. but i tried at .75 and 1.1 and it just crashes... if you did hit that high congrats dude..
     
    DumbDumb, May 31, 2012
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    ill make a video soon, like we said earlier maybe different manufacturer of vram. Ill be upping the memory to 1675 and maybe further soon for benchmarking
     
    HaloGod2012, May 31, 2012
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    You will see larger differences in mem clocking because the chips themselves play a part. Before it was the IMC which is pretty similar on all chips.

    The hynix chips are rated for 1250mhz and there are 8 of them and the slowest will set the max clocks. So you could see a large variation.

    You could also see an improvement if you were brave and found some higher rated hynix chips.............
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 31, 2012
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  18. HopelesslyFaithful

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    U mean replacing the RAM on the gpu? That is more work then it is worth LOL
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, May 31, 2012
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  19. Gater

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    I'm thinking of buying a 9150 with the 7970m. Would it be worth getting the IC Diamond upgrade for better OC'ing?
     
    Gater, May 31, 2012
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  20. HopelesslyFaithful

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    depends how much and if you are willing to do it yourself to save the money. Always better to do it yourself but if your lazy or can't do it yourself then buy it
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, May 31, 2012
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  22. jaybee83

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    hm doesnt mention the 7900m series in the changelog tho. :( or did i miss it in the description?

    Sent from my GT-I9001 using Tapatalk 2
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  23. long2905

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    It isn't included. You can try to run the setup file but it will install everything except the display driver. I tried to mess with the inf files but failed. Installing via device manager works.

    And the brightness issue is still here.
     
    long2905, Jun 1, 2012
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  24. SlickDude80

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    Mr fox...tisk tisk...i was wondering how long it would be before you joined the party lol

    Cool thnx! For guys with 7970's, use these:

    http://benchmark3d.com/amd-catalyst-12-6-beta-7900-mod
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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    will these work no issues at all for my 7970m? anything to warrant installing these over my dell stock 7970m drivers?
     
    HaloGod2012, Jun 1, 2012
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  26. SlickDude80

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    if you are on the 12.5 beta modded drivers, don't install the 12.6's because 3dmark11 and Vantage actually went down.

    Skyrim did go up a few frames though
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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    im on the stock dell drivers. Should i install 12.5 beta? Is there a link for a working 12.5 beta for the 7970m?
     
    HaloGod2012, Jun 1, 2012
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  28. jaybee83

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    its in slickdude´s install guide :)
     
    jaybee83, Jun 1, 2012
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  29. SlickDude80

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    there's a link to the 12.5 beta 7900 modded drivers in my 7970m guide. Without disabling the integrated graphics, they may not work for you. You can try FN+F7 to dedicated, do a custom install and see if the "display driver" is an option to install.

    They will increase your scores over the stock dell drivers.

    EDIT: jaybee beat me to it lol
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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    HaloGod2012, Jun 1, 2012
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    ^that's good :)
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 1, 2012
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  32. StZu

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    @Halo

    How stable is it at those clocks? Temps? Did you overvolt?
     
    StZu, Jun 2, 2012
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    play battlefield 3, tera online, crysis 2, and dirt showdown for hours and no artifacting or crashes so far. Im using the 1075v vbios. temps idle are 43c, load is 66c
     
    HaloGod2012, Jun 2, 2012
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  34. ObserverJLin

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    Hi dude. Does OC damage the card in anyway??? What did you did say the max stable clocks for gaming was again?
    Should I set MSI AB to apply OC on startup or should I only apply the OC clocks when I start the game? I presume the latter will protect the card more right? Or does it matter? After all I just want to protect my card. Oh and the 7970m will be in a Clevo P170EM if that makes any difference.
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 2, 2012
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    temps are pretty much the only thing that will damage a GPU. You need to monitor your temps. 105C is thermal threshold and will ruin it. GPUS running at 80-90C are fine but the temps are still higher then you would like. If your gaming on and off those temps are not that bad but 24/7 that will reduce the life significantly. I like to keep it below 80C if i can but I fold on my gpu so its that way 24/7

    Can you post temps? use speedfan/afterburner/gpu-z/hwinfo
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, Jun 2, 2012
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    observer, hopeless mentioned soemthing important...temps. Temps are a good indicator that you've overclocked too high.

    Another indicator is stability. If you clock too high, you will freeze in games, 3dmark won't finish its run and/or get bsods.

    My rule of thumb...as long as you don't overvolt, overclocking is harmless. Worse that happens is that you will freeze or bsod, so you restart and set the clocks lower.

    From my experiments, 950/1400 is very reasonable for a 7970m. There are some that will go higher for the best bench scores, but at 950/1400, you essentially have a desktop 7870 / gtx 570. There is no need to really go higher. I would try to go higher only to see what the upper limit on your card is and then set it lower...this way, you won't over stress your card. My upper limit at stock voltage is 1ghz core, so setting it to 950 is reasonable for me
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 2, 2012
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  37. ObserverJLin

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    What temp monitor software would you recommend as the best?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 2, 2012
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    Okay dude. So I only touch the Core Clock & Memory Clock then it'll be safe? Core @ 950 & Memory @ 1400 I confirm.

    Sry for noob question but what is bsods?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 2, 2012
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  39. SlickDude80

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    yes, that's all you have to do
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 2, 2012
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  40. widezu69

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    I haven't been around here much but I'm sure someone has mentioned my 1035/1560 3DMark11 benchmark? Anyway that was as high as my GPU could go although I expect it wouldn't be as stable in gaming.
     
    widezu69, Jun 2, 2012
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    nice core clock, the most stable i have been for a benchmark is 1020/1675, my memory is special lol
     
    HaloGod2012, Jun 2, 2012
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  42. harmattan

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    St

    Afterburner is still locked at stock speeds for me on my p150em. I'm using catalyst 12.4...

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  43. DumbDumb

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    no.. these suck ..
     
    DumbDumb, Jun 2, 2012
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    erm arn't you supposed to change all the 000, 001, 002 etc to zero in enableulps?
     
    ObserverJLin, Jun 2, 2012
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    Yes, but I only have to 00x (000 and 001). 001 is the only one with an enableupls key in it.
     
    harmattan, Jun 2, 2012
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  46. HopelesslyFaithful

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    ummm what are you talking about? never heard of these things -_-
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, Jun 3, 2012
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    I have two reg folders in which the enableulps key may be found, 0000 and 0001. Only 0001 has the enableulps key in it.

    Any case, I figured it out: there was an extra cfg file hanging out in my msi folder. Pushed up to 1010/1500 no problem yesterday (is a 3dmark11 score of 6662 about right for this speed?) Will try for higher today.
     
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    Glad you figured it out, nice ocq
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 3, 2012
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  49. HopelesslyFaithful

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    what is enableulps lol?
     
    HopelesslyFaithful, Jun 3, 2012
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    ULPS stands for Ultra Low Power State. You want to disable this if you plan on overclocking in MSI Afterburner
     
    SlickDude80, Jun 3, 2012
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