8600GT play crysis?

will the 8600GT be able to play crysis on max settings? i dont think it would but i really hope so. lol, i know it will be able to run the game but .....whats everyones opinions

 

not on max, it will play it, but no way on max

 

If that's what you want, I think you need a desktop

 

no



stop fishing for a yes because all you do is set yourself up for a bigger fall

8600gt will run med or low depending on what res you play at and what version (gddr 2/3) you got

 

Hell ima be hoping to play this game on my x1600, 2.0GHZ AMD Turion, 1gig RAM, on med with dx9....Hopefully....

 

k that sucks cant get it then, only have enough for a laptop and im goingt o get the asus g1s, need a laptop for most of my classes or else i would of just bought a desktop.

 

Get a cheap small and portable laptop for 800 bucks and invest the rest in a desktop for gameing. Even the G1s wont be able to play crysis at max settings. Also I dont think you will be happy carrying a G1s around to classes, too big too heavy and too hot.

 

seriously people, to play crysis max settings you can build a fast $1000 gaming PC equipped with a 8800gts (assuming you don't to buy a monitor)

 

Yeah, it should be fine at medium settings or at worst low settings.

 

i think you will be pleasantly surprised with crysis.

i expect medium settings mostly, maybe some things on high.

but games from good developers that actually care about performance tend to run really well.

think about how worried people were over half life 2.

crysis is the same story imo. its going to run better than people think.

 

Thiers no point in running crysis at low settings.

crysis is a pure EYE-CANDY game. its not going to have amazing gameplay, its not going to have amazing storylines. its going to have amazing graphics.

 

But you can blow up TREES MAN! TREES!

If that isn't gameplay, fun is dead to me.

 

But how can you achiebe max seetings without a monitor do display them?

Hah...but yea most PC makers have to take this stuff into account, which is why Crysis should run well on the 8600m. They know that most gamers don't yet have Vista, DX10, or an 8 series Nvidia card, so they will prepare for that accordingly. They have to because selling a game to a small portion of the market does not equal profits. And laptop gaming is a growing segment now.

 

It can run Crysis. You'd be better off playing it on Medium settings.

It can play it on high, it's just that you'd get very poor FPS.

 

well theres always OVERCLOCK!!!

i just overclocked my 8600 GT ddr2 to 490/420 and it works fine. it heats up another couple degrees (75) from factory settings (73)

 

True, but I reckon it'll still look amazing on medium details. You don't need to max resolution for that, nor do you need to max AA and AF, which always -seem to be the real GPU-killer effects. I'm expecting med low - med settings on my G1S, and for it to still look spectacular.

 

http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/

latest crysis min requirements

looks like the 8600gt just missed the recommended system specs

 

Are those desktop models though? Isn't the 8600m GT not even near that quality? or do i have no clue what i'm talking about(most of the time)?

Edit: when i say not near, i am talking from a real gamers perspective, not casual(me).

 

heres what i found
http://www.crysis-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=746.0

Minimum Requirements

CPU: Athlon 64 3000+/Intel 2.8ghz
Graphics: Nvidia 6200 or ATI X1300 - Shader Model 2.0
RAM: 768MB on Windows XP or 1GB on Windows Vista
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 256k+
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP


Recommended Requirements

CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7600 or ATI X1600 Pro (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5GB+
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX9.0c with Windows

 

Not to rain on the parade, but Crysis is not out yet,and nobody except the developers know how Crysis will run on certain systems. I know everyone here is just giving their opinion on the matter, and that is fine. I just don't want people taking all this as written in stone, bona fide facts.

My opinion on the matter is that the game is going to scale extremely well. Even on medium settings in DX9 it's probably going to look spectacular. All the extra eye-candy is for people with extreme high end rigs or to increase the longevity of the game. FarCry, which Crysis is using an updated engine from, looked great when I played it back on my GeForce 4 at medium settings. Now I play it on my GeForce 8800 and it still looks like a modern game with all the "future proofing" the developers did to it. Seeing as how successful FarCry is, I see no reason why they would do anything different.

That's just my $0.02, not fact though.

 

I'm not an expert but I've got shader model errors in the past when my card was dated. A 8600m has like shader model 4.0, so keep that in mind. That exceeds the recommended requirements. And most games that come out the next year won't even be as demanding as Crysis anyway. It's more of an extreme example really.

The 8600m seems like a solid card. The 8700m should be really good too.

 

The recommended specs actually use a 7800gt as an example. The 8600gt would probably be in the recommended category rather than the minimum. I’m saying this based on the fact that the g1s 8600gt performs on par with a 7900gs. I don’t’ now the exact amount of power lost in a mobile card so I could be wrong. I’d assume if it performs as well as a higher end laptop card it should at least be comparable to the desktop step down.

 

no

the 7800gt is more powerful than the 8600gt because they are saying the DESKTOP version of the 7800gt

while here, its the 8600gt for notebooks

check out 3d marks for rough reference


the 8600gt is under recommended but greater than min

 

well if the desktop 7800 gt = notebook 7900 gs (may or may not, i dont know)

then the 8600m gt should approximately equate a desktop 7800 gt in horsepower.

 

My opinion is that it will be a bit difficult for the card to handle the game..

Maybe with low settings that will make it look like far cry...

(don't forget 7800gt/7900gs use 256bit bus..)

 

the 7800gt desktop > 7900gs

okay?

get it?

8600gt is UNDER recommended but OVER minimum

it will run at low - med

 

Well the difference between 7800gt and go 7900gs is very small..

7800GT Core Clock:400MHz Memory Clock:1GHz Pixel Pipes:20 Vertex Pipes:7 Memory Bus:256bit

Go 7900 Gs Core Clock:375MHz Memory Clock:1GHz Pixel Pipes:20 Vertex Pipes:7 Memory Bus:256bit

Just 25Mhz difference..(that can be gained with oc...)

 

but notice the mem freq

most people will have the 8600gt with ddr2 which is 200mhz below

and lets not forget the 256 bus

that means it has a bandwidth of 25.6gb/s

and you can't compare these core with the 8600gt core

the unitfied core of the 8600 is a lot less specialized than the old cores


people who dream of playing crysis on 8600gt at 1900x1200 are dreaming

1680x1024 (i think) will have to play on low

1440x900 will probably be med-low

and 1280x800 on med

with good FPS framerates (at least 25fps)

 

@hmmmmm

Yeah,as you can see I just talked about 7800GT and 7900gs.
I'm not getting in the trick talking about 8600m GT vs these cards.
Why not?Because of the memory bus as you said..
In my opinion after pipelines,shader units,rops,etc. the most important thing is the bus.

 

I was under the impression that a 128 bit card really only becomes limited with more than 256mb of ram. The sites recommended cards don’t include memory, but I believe 256mbs was fairly common on a 7800gt (may be wrong). Owing to the fact that the more powerful gddr3 version has 256mb it shouldn’t present a major issue. I should have been clearer and said the gddr3 version would be in the recommended category. I know the gddr2 even at 512mb takes a major performance hit. Plus, crysis will be designed t take advantage of direct x 10 and better utilize the 8600’s stream processors. I’d take an idle guess that it would be playable at medium setting with a resolution of 1680x1024. I’m not saying you will be able to set the game to its maximum level. I realize that high AA settings present the 8600 with a little more than it can handle. However, with reduced AA I’m relatively confident it would play on medium (perhaps some high) settings.

 

According to that link the 6600 would still play the game. I think people are being overdramatic when it comes to its playability. If it can truly run on a 6600 the old Junker in my brothers room could play this game. This cards is two generations beyond the 6600, even if it’s a notebook card it should play fine. Supreme commander plays flawlessly on max settings using the g1s; I don’t see why crysis wouldn’t at least play on medium.

 

Don't forget Supreme Commander is not fps..
The game is more cpu demanding..

 

i think my 8600GS can play it 1280res on med...hopefully coz i liked farcry alot

 

It was the most advanced game I have. It while being cpu intensive is also hard on the gpu. Anandtech said, “ We chose Supreme Commander as it is both a GPU and CPU hog when it comes to systems resources”. The only relatively intensive fps I have is fear, and obviously it can run on max. I was using the most intensive game I have just to illustrate that modern games don’t necessitate obscene rigs.

 

i disagree with that crysis is a purely eye-candy game, yes it looks amazing but i am excited for the actual gameplay. i love the concept of having different suit powers and it is up to you to allocate which you use, and having the upgradeable weapons. It really gives it a nice rpg type feel, and i am extremely excited that you can use those powers in multi player, its going to be so fun to sneak around invisible and let off a couple shot gun rounds in some unsuspecting person's face.

 

i don't think anyone who has an 8600gt also has a 1920x1200 screen resolution, for one.

some might have 1680x10 50 but i think most people have even lower than that.

i plan on playing it in 1440x900, and i think i won't have anything ticked below medium.

you mentioned that the unified core of the 8 series is less specialized than the 7 series. less specialized = more parallel. you are just abusing english to make an argument. more parallel sounds good. less specialized sounds bad. see how manipulation of language goes?

the reality of the situation is that each 8 series shader unit is not as good at an individual function as each 7 series shader unit.

however- there are a ton more of them, and they are ALL being used, ALL the time, whereas about 50% of the shaders are being used at any given time in a 7 series card. 8 series pushes about 100% shader utilization from what i can tell.

if parallelism was a bad thing, nvidia would not have gone that route pretty simple.

 

according to the OFFICIAL minimum system requirements, the 8600 gt should be able to play crysis at reasonable settings i.e. mostly medium, maybe some high, maybe some low at a good resolution.

crytek is doing the same thing valve did with half-life 2 and id software did with doom 3; basically, someone with an average gaming rig should be able to play it on medium settings with good frame rate and some higher settings like anti-aliasing. if you want to get the most out of crysis, you could spring for 3-4 gigs of ram and a desktop version of the 8 series from nvidia. however, if you just want to play the damn game with decent settings, the 8600m gt should be fine.

on a final note, crysis on medium settings WILL look better than anything out today and for at least two years to come. us 8600m gt users haven't really seen much out of our cards, but with dx10 games like crysis finally coming out, i think it will perform pretty damn good; maybe not 7950 gtx good, but with all the cool dx10 particle effects good.

 

the dell 1720 can be configed with 1920x1200

well i guess it depends on what you define as "playable"

uh, i was saying you can't compare the cores of 8 series to 7 series because those are entirely differenet architecture. its just like how you can't say the 2900xt has 320 stream processors vs 128 (i think) on the 8800gts. they're different.

don't really know what you're getting at here...

the 7800gt has 20 pixel shaders and 7 vertex shaders, the 8600gt has 32 shaders. you can't compare them directly

yes, but each unified shader are less efficient.

yes, it is comfortably over the minimium requirements but it still doesn't have as much power as the desktop version 7800gt

AA with 128 bit bus with ddr2 ram (which the majority of 8600gt are) and only 256mb of vram

thats going to be fun

how the heck can you be so sure? what about haze? bioshock? alan wake?

you can't say that it will be the best looking game for 2 years

thus far, there is no proof that dx10 runs better than dx9

if you look at dx10 lost planet, the minimal dx10 effects improvement over dx9 brings even the 8800gtx to its knees.

 

this is the older minimum requirements

look at the dates, the link i posted is the latest one

 

Do you guys think that the new Alienware M9750 I plan on getting equipped with Dual 7950GTXs, 2.33GHZ and 2GB or RAM will be enough to do the game its justice. Do you think those are high quality settings for DX9 because I sure as hell know I won't be getting any DX10 stuff out of this laptop even though I figure with all that power the cards could probably pull off some of that stuff.

 

With those stats, your system is currently the most powerful gaming laptop setup available. Even without DX10 enabled, you are going to be able to make the game look fantastic with that SLI setup.

 

It'll look great, no doubt. That is power.

Just remember though that DX10 enables certain features that your cards do not support. There are certain eye-candy effects that you won't be able to experience in the games coming out with DX10 bonus material.

They will no doubt run on DX9 cards though and your system will handle them with ease I think

 

The desktop 7800gt 3dmark06 scores I have seen have been from 3700 to over 5000 overclocked. A ddr3 8600gt should be able to play crysis since stock scores are around 3600 and an overclocked ddr2 8600gt should be able to get in on the fun also

 

those 7950 sli will *likely* max out the game in dx9 mode with smooth 30+ fps (not sure if you add in AA though)

and i doubt that the 8600gt has enough power to draw any special effects the sli 7950 can't do...


EDIT:

tegman, you can't depend solely on 3dmarks to test a card
the desktop version on 7950 gt vs 8600gt in 3dmarks = around the same. in ACTUAL gameplay though, there is no doubt, the 7950 dominates (benches here: http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_8600_GTS_and_8600_GT/?page=7).

thats what i'm saying is happening here too. though the 8600gt may have similar scores to 7800gt, the 8600gt has a 128 bit bus that will scale worse than the 7800gt as resolution goes up, AA is turned on, etc...

 

Don't think so...

Just a while ago,I saw some Crysis ingame videos and the framerate gets very choppy at sometimes...
Especially when the player is at the top of a hill and the whole level is visible,the framedrop is visible..
And you all know what hardware the companies use when showing their new games..

 

^^ Sounds like framerate issues in and of itself, and likely to be cleared up before the game goes gold. lol

 

yea, they're still in the process of optimizing the game code

the earlier builds were notorious for needing dual 8800gtx's just to be able to run it smoothly at maxed out settings and high res

now a single 8800gtx will do the trick running (including AA) at 60+fps according to their posts (on the website a while a go)

 

So what desktop gpu would the 8600gt be equivalent too?

 

I'd say around a 7800 GT desktop is roughly equivalent in power to a mobile 8600 GT.

More likely the 7600GT Desktop = 8600M GT laptop.

The 7600GT desktop cards often gave the 7800GT Desktops a run for their money. A 7600GT Desktop I had almost hit the same FPS (about 4-8 FPS slower) as my 7800GT Desktop in FEAR. I think it was because the 7600GT desktop used a newer core, similar to how the 8600GTS includes updated core features compared to the 8800 GTX.

 

Yeah I want to get the Alienware SLi but my mom wants me to get the 1720 which only comes with an 8600GT. I hate her sometimes. I know the 8600GT won't be able to run Crysis as smooth as say those dual 7950s were.