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    8600GT play crysis?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by kevin25, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

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    Uhhh I don't blame her especially since the price of dual sli 7950s is :eek: .
     
  2. StormEffect

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    Yes, but if the DX10 visuals in Crysis include the optimizations that DX10 is supposed to bring to the API, then the 8600GT will suddenly look a LOT less whimpy compared to the 7950.

    Also, if you are getting this computer for school consider getting a 1520. The decreased resolution will allow games to run at higher settings because it also uses the 8600GT.

    Agreed, be thankful that you get any laptop AT ALL!
     
  3. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    lol so you HATE your mom because she ONLY wants to buy you an 8600m gt?

    spoiled brat.

    get a job and supplement your mom's cash and get a 7950 dual sli system if you want it so bad. you work a few weeks and you will cover the cost difference easy.

    8600m gt will be powerful enough to run fear at decent settings- especially when you consider you are dealing with about half as many pixels per frame (1440x900 vs 1920x1200)
     
  4. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

    TH3D4RKKN!GH7 Notebook Consultant

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    I am working I usually pay for all my stuff PS3/360 my games and sneakers but I really don't have the cash though to buy a laptop which is why I'm giving her a 1,000 dollars towards the PC. I'm not really getting it for school I'm 15 I just need a new PC because I'm on this old thinkpad which BLOWS NUTS! Do you guys think the 8600GT will be a good enough card because if so I'll just go with the 1720. BTW I really don't hate my mom, she just doesn't really get tech at ALL. I'm learning Maya and such and this PC just blows for high end stuff of that nature.
     
  5. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    nahhh i didn't really think you hated your mom. i was just giving you a hard time.

    if you are getting a pc just get a 320 meg 8800gts in there.
     
  6. StormEffect

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    With 1000 dollars I could build a darn sweet gaming desktop. One that would certainly play Crysis. Are you sure you want a laptop?
     
  7. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

    TH3D4RKKN!GH7 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah I've had a desktop before the thing I do like about this stupid thinkpad is that you can carry it around if your going someplace you can take it with you. It's less of a hassle but to get a great one ITS AN ISSUE! The DELL PC she wants me to get is alot like the PC in your Sig Storm the one that says newest the Macbook. I think it might be the exact same besides the Ram.
     
  8. StormEffect

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    Well then, you'll be getting a pretty top of the line mobile system then. If you don't play at really high resolutions (I.E. Get a 15" screen), then it'll perform pretty darn well.
     
  9. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

    TH3D4RKKN!GH7 Notebook Consultant

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    So you think I'll be able to play Crysis at like medium at 1280x1024 or like lower resolution or lower settings?
     
  10. hmmmmm

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    notebooks are wide scree

    which is 1280x800, 1440x900, 1650x1024, 1024x768

    8600gt will definitely run crysis, at med or lower depends on what resolution and settings

    a ps3 and 360 when you're just 15 = spoiled

    if you really want to game at lan parties or what no, why not get a shuttle box?
     
  11. Matsu

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    If I had a mom that would even consider buying a laptop for me I'd be thrilled....I've waited for 5 years constantly wanting a laptop but my mom would not even buy one for me....had to wait till I was old enough to work and get one. As for the 8600GT I'm pretty sure the 8600 GT can run the game smoothly if you adjust the settings a bit...if you have met the other reqs of course. Although the 8600 GT might not run the game all maxed out and such I'm pretty sure it will still look very good. I play F.E.A.R on my laptop on low settings and to me it still looks great.
     
  12. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    the first two are widescreen 16:10. the third one i assume you meant 1680 x 1050. the last one you mentioned is not a widescreen resolution.

    also, he said that he worked and payed for his own xbox and ps3. give him the benefit of the doubt. (why you would buy them both is beyond me- but its your hard earned money - or at least thats what you said - and so its your choice)

    anyway, to your gpu, 1440x900 should be slightly less taxing than 1280x1024, just counting the number of pixels to render per frame. i think the 8600m gt will handle crysis at that resolution or below with slight modification.

    also- tweakguides.com is a really great tool for gaining performance while giving up only minimal image quality.

    i will probably play around with that when it comes out.
     
  13. StormEffect

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    I fully intend to play Crysis on the MBP in my sig below, the same one my friend (I hope I can say that, I see him around on all of the same forums) masterchef341 owns.

    An 8600m GT WILL play Crysis, and it WILL play it at 1440x900 on a laptop. The question is whether it will play well at medium style settings or medium-low style settings.

    Oh, and if you play FEAR on an 8600GT you get to experience much higher settings than your current setup.
     
  14. lordofericstan

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    Ive never noticed a terrible decrease in quality to play at non native resolutions so if my notebooks struggles at 1440x900, i'll just tune it down a bit.

    matsu has such an unoriginal avatar :p
     
  15. masterchef341

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    yeah interpolation doesn't bother a lot of people. it bothers some more than others, and for me it depends on the game.

    just make sure that if you have a 16:10 widescreen monitor, you are running in a 16:10 widescreen resolution.

    1680x1050, 1440x900, 1280x800, if you want to keep going down: force a custom resolution like 1024x640.

    but honestly if you dedicate some time to tweaking, not just lowering settings, but actually tweaking. maybe doing a little .ini editing and simple research, i have no doubt you will get crysis up and running and looking really good at 1440x900. smooth.

    its like rainbow six vegas. out of the box, everything patched up and up to date, 1024x768 on low, hdr off, no motion blur, is playable but sluggish. its only playable at all because the game is slow paced.

    after .ini optimization and other tweaks, i can run 1440x900 smooth at medium settings (with hdr and motion blur).

    of course: rvs vegas is a horrible port just begging for some optimization. crysis will likely be very polished when it comes out. tweaking probably wont take you as far as improving performance drastically, while also increasing the resolution 1.5x and increasing the image quality itself considerably, but it will still help to smooth things out, maybe just enough to go from 1280x800 to 1440x900.
     
  16. lordofericstan

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    sounds cool, where can i get some more info on how to tweak it to play better?
     
  17. masterchef341

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    crysis? nowhere. its not released yet.

    go to tweakguides.com if you are looking for tweaks for some of the more popular games

    otherwise, google.com for rainbow six vegas, which doesn't happened to be covered there.

    also, tweakguides.com has specific information about setting up your system for gaming.

    there is a long guide for optimizing your operating system for gaming (one for vista and one for xp). those guides are long but they go over a lot of basic stuff you already know, and probably touch a few things you don't.

    there are also guides for graphics settings for both amd and nvidia. they help you to set up, optimize, and tweak the forceware (or catalyst driver for amd folk) for your gpu.
     
  18. Scottyboy99

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    Sounds like the Alienware 7950gtx sli is the way to go - should make the game run pretty decently. However I am sure I read somewhere that Vista does not yet support sli - maybe the drivers aren't available yet? Is that correct?
     
  19. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That is correct - Vista does not support SLI yet (officially). There are beta drivers out. I heard the drivers should be out by winter.
     
  20. hmmmmm

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    opps

    you're right about the res

    my bad
     
  21. ZeyOrk

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    They have spent months doing optimiziation, and the game takes full advantage of dual core proccesors. Your 8600 gt will play crysis nice, but not at ultra or max, maybe medium-high. They have optimized every single texture, so polygons doesnt wander around like in bioshock(poorly ported game). Crysis will use all the devices in your pc, dont worry mate :)
     
  22. Magnus72

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    Bioshock poorly ported? Don´t think so. Get the facts the game is too demanding for your 8600GT. Bioshock runs very very fast on my 8800GTX, so it is without no doubt an poorly optimized game in no way.

    Now we can´t compare a desktop 8800GTX to a 8600GT mobile, but still I say bioshock is very optimized.

    It is funny to read about all 8600GT, like they are supposed to be a high end DX10 card when it is only a mid range DX10 card. Now to think DX10 will run fluently on a 8600GT must be a joke. Bioshock has a very good optimization in DX10 and DX9. The game isn´t ported from 360, they were developed simultanously. Lost Planet on the other hand is a poorly optimized game.
     
  23. AppendixMan

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    I agree, before the game was released I was expecting to play low-med settings. Turns out I can play the game maxed on my 8600m gt and it remains very playable.
     
  24. Magnus72

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    Also I highly doubt that Crysis will run better than Bioshock, in Crysis you´re running outside in a huge environment, meanwhile Bioshock is merely a corridor shooter. So I expect Crysis to be more demanding than Bioshock.
     
  25. Mimino

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    yeah, bioshock is mainly inside(from what i can tell playing it for 10 mins), but what about the explosions and flooding in the beginning of the game? isn't that a little graphically intense, so to say? i run the game on high and haven't had a glitch yet. knock knock knock
     
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    Ive got £550 to spend on a laptop,which would be the best one to buy to play crysis at a reasonable level?Any help would be appreciated
     
  27. Mimino

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    550 pounds that would roughly translate into 1100 dollars. i say inspiron 1520 w/1.6-2.0ghz, 8600gt, and 1 gb ram from dell(something i should've done). u can buy ram from newegg or comparable site for a lot cheaper. put in a hard drive, etc, i think that would meet ur budget. u can also try configuring vostro 1500 w/8600, might be able to get it cheaper than the 1520. i'd go for a 1280*800, that's what i have right now, i like it a lot. it's a non glossy version tho, but the res it's really up to u.
     
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    thanks ill check it out
     
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    why is this thread still open, lol
     
  30. mike 878

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    yeah i cant belive bioshock works on max on my 8600M.
    And most people said it would never run max on this card.
    I think we'll all be amazed how well crysis runs on it so long as we keep the res and aa low.
     
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    Why is this a joke?

    NVidia is strongly marketing their DX10 capability of their 8600M series cards like no joke.

    They even "in-your-face" market the use of the cards with the Company of Heros dx10 game in their official website!

    With these kind of marketing, they should expect user expectation of at least a fluent game play with DX10 games.

    If not, nvidia had better come up with a better firmware and driver to flash our cards soon!!

     
  32. alkaeda

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    i doubt a 8600 can run bioshock on high? What res are you using? Most people have been getting 25FPS with medium settings...

    and an 8600gt is meant to be bad for crysis i hear
     
  33. mike 878

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    im running it on 1024x640 res with everyhing set to max. i get about 30-40 fps on average.sometimes may drop to as low as 20 in huge battles.
    Im running it on the msi gx700 which has the 8600M gt 512m
    yeah i was supprised how well bioshock ran on it which is why i think crysis should run fine on it if you keep the res low. considering crysis is being designed just for pc would mean that it should be designed to use max power of your pc to give you great performance.
     
  34. planet

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    I think the new 163.67 nvidia drivers just released improved bioshock by up to 10+ fps from some user reports in other thread.

    So if you are getting 30-40 fps on average, the new driver could improve it to 40-50+ fps for 8600M GT!

    Yeah!!
     
  35. alkaeda

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    ahh 512mb 8600gt that explains it, most of us have the 256mb version :(
     
  36. planet

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    256mb shouldn't make too much a difference since the core is basically the same...?

     
  37. mike 878

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    well im using the 158.4 drivers and have overcloacked the card to 550/450.
    i tried the new drivers and there is not much difference plus u cant overclock on the 160 drivers. The 512m version is really no differnce to the 256 version though. I reccomend overclocking your card, it seriously boosts performance. just watch your core temps when gaming, ive never gone higher than 80 celscias.
     
  38. Thorne

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    There really ain't such a big difference in power between the 512 and 256 MB 8600M GT's. For the card to be able to use all that 512 memory, the bandwith would have to be more than 128-bit... And you'd have to play with higher resolution than 1680 x 1050.
     
  39. Mimino

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    512mb version of 8600, as far as i was told, is 256 dedicated + 256 shared....

    and as far as for bisohock, play it maxed out on 1280*800, not to brag or anything. i get around 25fps, but it's a smooth play, it doesn't freeze or twitch, or anything like that...
     
  40. oresteez

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    i'm with you Big V..i played Bioshock on medium with 1680x1050 resolution and it runs real smooth..i dont know what the FPS was...

    i also didnt experiment with any other settings..i've only had the time to play it for about 30 minutes so far this week :(
     
  41. wundergreg

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    so bioshock runs fine with your 1gb ram oresteez?
     
  42. Mimino

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    yeah, i feel u, this week been too long...don't have time for anything...
    but yeah, back on topic, i'm really happy with my 8600(had a choice of getting a 7900gs) so far, we'll see once new games come out...
     
  43. miladesn

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    I think 8600m GT can max out crysis in DX10 at 800x600 with 30+ FPS. what do you guys expect form a mobile gpu?! it' pretty good IMO.
     
  44. Mimino

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    it is not so much for the ram these days, mainly gpu and cpu...first being more of a factor... a lot of ram is always a plus, though.
     
  45. Mimino

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    i think it would run decent 1280*800 on my lap with medium, some low perhaps...as i said b4, 8600 handles current games real nice
     
  46. alkaeda

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    LOL are u crazy? if this is true then i am truly amazed :eek:
     
  47. miladesn

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    I think you have no clue. running crysis at 800x600 max out is not surprising.just wait for the demo and see it yourself.
     
  48. TH3D4RKKN!GH7

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    Who wants to play the game at such low resolution I mean what the **** LOL.
     
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    whats wrong with it (apart from the HUD being massive) ? :p
     
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    ill have you know, up to recently, i have always played all the games at that resolution except on cs i can use 1280x1024...
     
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