8600GT vs FX 2500M

Ok so, basically I've been looking for benchmarks on these 2 but the FX 2500M is no where to be found on the intrawebz. Unless I just fail @ looking for it, which is also a possibility. Anyways basically what I need to know is what's better:

Intel® Core™2 Duo T7700 2.4GHz w/4MB L2 On-die cache - 800MHz FSB
512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 8600GT DX10

VS

Intel® Core™ 2 DUO 2.33GHz (T7600) Processor (Merom / 4 MB L2 Cache / 667 FSB)
512MB PCI-Express nVidia Quadro FX2500M w/GDDR3

The second laptop is around $1000 more w/ all the other specs the same b/w the two but also is a 17" as opposed to 15.4"
Any assistance would be appreciated, I don't really know much about it.
Thanks in advance!

 

The X2500 is actually a rebranded X1700.. the same card.. Search for benchmarks of the X1700.. there are lots on these forums... And a proper 8600GT(not one of those in the new inspirons) scores almost two and a half times the 3dMark06 score as the X1700...

 

Alright thanks, I'll check out the X1700 benchmarks but it seems like the 8600GT blows it out of the water anyway?

 

Blah, I think you were thinking of ATI's X1700? This is nvidia FX 2500

 

The Quadro FX 2500M is based on the Go 7900 GTX and it will be more powerful.

 

Will the FX 2500 greatly outperform the 8600GT? I'm just wondering if it's worth the price or if the difference is negligible for most games.

 

no it won't be negligible. the 8600gt isn't as powerful as the FX 1500M and the FX 2500M is almost twice as powerful as the FX 1500M.

 

The Quadro 2500M is equivalent to its Geforce 7900GTX brother.

The 8600M GT is barely up to par with the 7900GS... which is at least 20% slower than the 7900GTX.

 

Why hasn't anyone bothered to mention that the FX 2500M is a graphics card geared towards 3D design rather than gaming.

Meaning performance will not be the same in games as a 7900 GTX.

 

Because cards like the Quadro FX 2500M have very good gaming performance and even outperform the consumer cards in synthetic benchmarks. And, the difference in real gaming performance will not be significant, if any.

 

I do not agree with you, there will be a difference in performance and certain games may have issues with the card since it may not be recognized.

And certainly the drivers for the card are different than the drivers for regular 7-series cards.

 

Well, hell may freeze over as well but until it happens, I could care less about that.

Otherwise, the difference in performance is slight and yeah 1 of 100 000 games may have compability issues...

As for drivers, no one stops you to use a regular drivers instead of the specific ones but you just won't need to...

 

I have the Dell M90 and I get a 5584 Score in 3dmark06 in 1024x768 reslution. I was originally wanted to replace the M90 with Dell's 1520, but after some deep research and thinking finally I decided not to.

Unfortunately I do not have the 7900GTX so I can't tell you if there is any gaming performance loss with my FX 25000M. But I can play games decently, even in native (1920 x 1200) resolution.


-Vaitte

 

i have a m90 with 2500m and i have to say it games perfectly fine. This card can do wat ever the consumer version can do if not better if used with the correct drivers.

 

its not that the quadro series are massively underpowered or anything. its basically the same hardware and the drivers should be compatible with any games worth playing. majahong tournament 3d 2k7 may or may not be supported.

its just that you will lose a little bit of performance in games compared to the geforce equivalent. you also gain a bit of performance compared to the geforce card in 3dsmax.

if your standard is "runs fine" or "doesn't run fine" then you shouldn't experience much difficulty with quadro cards and gaming.

if you want to compare benchmarks, the geforce card will win.

 

There is really no difference between this and the 7900gtx maybe 1 or 2 frame rates at worst. Dont listen to masterchef. The only game I have ever come across having problems with this card is Ford Motor Racing 3. Other than that I have never heard of or had problems with this card and any other game. Plus this card will work much better then the 7900gtx in graphic design aplications hence the higher price tag then the 7900gtx.

 

I think he might have a point that most developers dont support business cards when designing the games. Cuz of this there will probably more bugs in games and weird crashes than the ones which developers support. Not sayin it will perform worse, but that you might get weird unexpected crashes...

 

Ford Racing 3 doesn't run correctly on a Geforce 7900GS either, so it's unlikely it's a Quadro issue, and more of a driver or just a 7-series issue.

There is little to no difference in Quadro vs Geforce in notebooks. In fact, I have found that performance seems to be better in OpenGL based games (like Doom, Quake, Unreal, etc) because the cards are optimized for OpenGL. Other than that, framerates are the same and synthetic benchmarks tend to be a bit higher. Also keep in mind that an overclocked Quadro FX2500M with Core Duo (in a Dell Precision M90) was one of the first laptops to break 10k in 3dmark05, and NOT a 7900GTX. The first 7900GTX that I saw break it had a Merom processor and thus the CPU score was higher.

 

What about gaming with the NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500M?

 

The 3500M is the same as a go 7950... an overclocked 7900gtx/2500m.