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    8600M GS Performance Project

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by notebooker-hp, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    I am planing to overclock my nvidia 8600m gs on my pavilion dv6 soon.

    now it is at normal clocks in full load it gets up to 86.

    that is pretty high.

    1-There is a good air ventilation on my lappy.
    2-Vents and pipes and fans are clean.
    3-I done undervolting.
    4-Got a zalman nc2000 cooler.
    Solve.

    1-Changing termal paste?Will it descrease the temp?
    2-Putting a cold thing like ice and bear near vent?holes?
    3-Undervolting.Can you help.How can i do that?
    4-Zalman cooler does not blow out too much cold air.Can i modify my cooler to make it blow cooler air.?
    5-Putting another fan near laptop?Will it matter.

    I dunno why but this gpu card is really hot according to others.

    I have done undervolting cpu,bougt a cooler and updated my driver.

    Is there another solution for this?

    Any help will be appreciated because,i hate when my lappy works in high tempertures.

    Also i need a program like othoros(was it orthos) that loads 100/100 work to gpu. do you know any?

    or will the 3d mark 06 load a 100/100 work to gpu ?
     
  2. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    1st, you need to do all the cooling method before doing any OC.
    Check the temperature(maximum gaming temp) after doing all those cooling stuffs.
    If the temperature is still above 80C or nearly hit 80C, you're advised not to OC.
    Moreover, Nvidia 8-series GPU(8400-8600) are known as Overheating issues GPUs.
     
  3. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    GPU Stress tester

    I know the 8600M series do run hot, not to mention some which are faulty. So generally I'd recommend against overclocking them.

    EDIT: Ninja'd.

    Like he said, 8Mseries of Geforce GPU's really don't go quite well.
     
  4. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    ok i know that.thanks for advice.

    also if i install the latest physicx acceleration will it change the performance?
     
  5. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    You can install it but do set it to disable.
    Because PhysX used the GPU to calculate realistic movement or impact of the games. So, some power of your GPU will be share to calculate these stuffs and lowered the overall performance instead of boosting it.
     
  6. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Just buy a different notebook xD!
     
  7. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    i second that. no amount of oc is gonna make a 8600m gs suck less.
     
  8. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    i done the extreme gpu stress test.

    max temperture is 85c :(

    no chance the overclock but i still know that my card is safe.no overheating problems. :D maybe a new termal pastew can pull it down to 80c
     
  9. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    don't do it. i have a hp with the 8600m gs. worse idea i ever did. at first it was good. but over time. i couldn't hold the overclock.....
    dondadah88 first gpu overclock :)
    (i was a newbie :))
     
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  10. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    by increasing the core clock 60 mhz and share clock 200 mhz my card got to 87c in stress test.

    i also increased the memory 55 mhz.

    i have a question.

    memory doesnt have sensors.so will it burn or is there a risk to burn it if i overclock the memory?
     
  11. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you will artifact first.

    i suggest you not pasting 500 on the memory.
     
  12. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Obviously, yes. High Memory Clock OC will burn the GPU. Compared to Core Clock and Shader Clock, Memory Clock is easier to burn.
    Sometime, OC about 20%-30%(overall) only will increase the GPU maximum temperature(stress/game) about 1-5C for some machines.
    Like mine, I have only 2-4C increased in temperature(maximal when stress/game) for 475/400/950 to 615/470/1415.
    Opsss. Forgot to tell, my maximal temperature is 75C.
     
  13. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    man,ddr2 is to slow.it shouldnt heat up then.however why didnt you hold your overclock.

    as time passed did the card heated up more?

    or did it give a low performance still overclocked?

    or did overclocked reduced it's life?
     
  14. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    when i see your temps i get angry.

    mine is 87c at maximal overclocked that is .

    this card is not overclockable for me.

    82c is fine but 87 with overclocked will kill this cards life.

    that is sheet.
     
  15. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Not really, DDR2 and DDR3 does heat up respectively.
    The amount of heating up is not based on DDR2 and DDR3. It is the solder or the materials/elements to build the GPU.
    Good silicon builded GPU will have lower temperature, longer life-span and better performance. Vice versa.
    OC will reduce GPU life definitely but we don't know how much will it reduced. Can be any years and months and based on how much you OCed.
    Each GPU(even the same model) have different life-span and performance. As mentioned, it is due to the solder/materials/elements build of the GPU.
    I didn't see my GPU heat-up more when time passed and the performance is the same. Nothing unusual.
    I do undervolt my CPU(not GPU), so, the amount of heat release by CPU will be lower and will not affect the GPU to increase extra temperature.

    Benchmarking 3DMark06:
    Before OC(original): 38XX
    After OC(475/400/950 -> 615/470/1415): 48XX
    1000points extra. ^^!

    WORTH IT!
     
  16. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    u can but i cant because my card is near to over heat when i oc.

    okay? do you understand that ?

    just joking.i am having a sad day because i can not overclock.heat is not lower than 80c in normal settings. my card will over heat at oc because even i dont overclock i see 83c at monitors.

    whatever :D

    also o.c. means son of b2tch in turkey :D

    it is a shorter way to say son of a .... . so if you say o.c. in turkey that means son of a .... :D lol
     
  17. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    i overclocked my card a little now and get a 10 fps boost.that feels good :D

    but i need another help.and thanks for all of those who helped.

    i need a program that displays tempertures (gpu) IN GAME.not like hw monitor.

    i need a program that will display the gpu temps while in game like fraps.
     
  18. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    LOL. I think there are no such software. Or maybe very rare. Hmmmm.
    I use GPU-Z to monitor my GPU. It shows all the information I need for my GPU included temperature.
    In order to check your GPU temperature all the time, you can try Window-ed the games. So, you can watch the temperature on the HW-Monitor or GPU-Z(i recommend this).
     
  19. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    ah thats not nice.i cant play cod4 windowed :D i dont want also.

    as fraps display fps while gaming arent there any programs like fraps that display gpu temp. in game ?
     
  20. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    I know how to set COD4 to Windowed mode. If not mistaken, it needs to adjust something on the file system. Forgot which to tweak already. LOL.
    COD4 is a great games.
    I always open it up about 800x600(windowed) with 4x AA and all setting max-out. But now, I uninstalled it. LOL.
     
  21. Kerozinn

    Kerozinn Notebook Enthusiast

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    u could use riva tuner OSD for ingame temps + fps.

    worked for me
    there is a tutorial.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3BbI-8ICk

    btw..tested my gfx card temps with furmark + extra cpu burn options n got maximum 74°C with OC. d
     
  22. notebooker-hp

    notebooker-hp Notebook Consultant

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    also,is there a way to undervolt gpu and modify the bios the make the fan spin at different ways?
     
  23. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Undervolt, you need to flash your BIOS.
    Some software used to make the it. For example: Nibitor, NVflash, USB Flash Drive(1GB is recommend) and so on.
    Control FAN SPIN is possible too but it is not recommended. Because pushing the FAN to run 100% always can shorten the life for the FAN. You should not touch it. ^^!
     
  24. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    what driver are you using?
    the graphics drivers makes a gigantic difference in these things
    i overclocked mine and holding steady at 625mhz, i had to undervolt my cpu though
    i didnt touch my memory clocks however and left them at default. ive read in many posts that the memory connection seems to be the failing point in this gpu. and if i were you, dont fiddle with memory overclocks.
     
  25. johnnyok

    johnnyok Newbie

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    I'm new to this forum....I've noticed many comments regarding the 8600 gpu...I have a hp dv6700t with t9300, 4gb and the 8400...was told I could upgrade to the 8600....is this true and if so would it be a mistake because of 8600's problems?
     
  26. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    no you can't upgrade your gpu. it is soldiered in the motherboard. :(
     
  27. johnnyok

    johnnyok Newbie

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    the specs say it is a dedicated gpu....aren't they removeable?
     
  28. lidowxx

    lidowxx Notebook Deity

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    99% of the laptop GPUs are unupgradable and unfortunately yours just happens to be one of them.