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    8600M GT (Dell) HORRID performance.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by GloStiX, Dec 27, 2007.

  1. GloStiX

    GloStiX Notebook Evangelist

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    When I bought my laptop, I got 150FPS on the CSS stress test using the same settings which will now give me 84FPS.

    I am downloading 3dmark06 so that I will be able to subjectively compare some results with the rest of you 8600M GT owners, because I have noticed that my performance has dramatically decreased and is extremely fickle and unstable.

    I used to play CSS competitively and I had net_graph 3 on all the time. I would get a constant 90-150 FPS. Now, using the same settings, I'm getting drops into the TEENS and hovering around 30-40 FPS, even though it will spike to 180 all the time.

    Downclocking to save power? I'm plugged in. So I use ATiTool to set all 3 (2D, 3D-Low, 3D-High) clock speeds to the standard 3D-High speed, even OC to 525/500. Hardware Monitor reports that my clock speeds ARE indeed set, but performance is still horrible. I don't know what's causing this, but it seems as if my GPU is too *LAZY* and refuses to run at full power. Often times it will hit a really high FPS, and when the screen doesn't even change, immediately drop to a 25FPS or so. Like it's saying "Oh, I don't need to try that hard, 12 FPS is alright, slow down..."

    I've reformatted 3 times and tried different setups, diagnostics, drivers, etc. to try to figure out what's wrong. I found nothing. :mad:

    Other info:
    Forceware 169.28's from LV2G
    T7300 2.0GHz C2D
    2GB RAM

    Could this be a problem with the most recent drivers? I will try to post a 3dmark score ASAP.

    Thanks for your help.

    EDIT: I'm going to try the most recent Dell drivers now, I'll post results.
     
  2. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    i've had some bs happen to me while playing gta:san andreas on 169.28. it would run quite sluggishly. changed to 169.04 and haven't had that issued anymore. try installing different drivers.
     
  3. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    Yeah, either you've got a defective GPU, or the driver is slowing you down. If the driver doesnt help at all, try calling Dell and getting a repair.
     
  4. benx009

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    this is one of the reasons why i have decided to stay away from dell :p
     
  5. Dman7

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    On the CoD4 demo I have it basically on high and get an average of around 45-50 FPS but it seems like there's alot of screen tearing, or it's what it looks like anyways, is that just a demo issue?

    I noticed it in the Crysis demo too, btw im using 169.28 as well.
     
  6. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    with vsync on?
     
  7. GloStiX

    GloStiX Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried Dell's most recent driver, based off the 156.xx or 158.xx (can't remember which one), and it doesn't help that much. A little better perf., but still dropping really low. I'll go far back and try a 100 series driver and let you know if it helps.
     
  8. Dman7

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    That's the option to sync every frame right? It might have been off because I did optimal then fixed everything.
     
  9. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    yes with vsync off you will experience tearing when your framerates go above the refresh rate of the monitor (above 60 FPS).
     
  10. ziggo0

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    Try 169.04. Get rid of ATiTool it's terrible. Grab the latest install of RivaTuner. Make sure when you install 169.04, you boot into safe mode and use a program such as Driver Cleaner or Driver Sweeper to get rid of all the old nVidia files. Proceed to boot into Windows, install your driver and go from there.
     
  11. GloStiX

    GloStiX Notebook Evangelist

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    I used 101.28's and I can avg STABLE (good) about 100, not my old 150. It has it's own rendering issues though, and I remember I used a 155 release back in the day to avoid it.

    I will try 169.04's and Driver Cleaner.
     
  12. GloStiX

    GloStiX Notebook Evangelist

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    ^Confirmed 169.04 fixes this. Thanks a lot.

    Repp'd both you guys.
     
  13. Mimino

    Mimino Notebook Communist

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    no crap! 169.04 for oscar
     
  14. someone777

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    would that apply for bf2 and company of heroes as well?
     
  15. wildmilne

    wildmilne Notebook Guru

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    So is COD 4 pretty much playable with most things near max resolution? I really dont want a 17" laptop but i mostly care about being able to play this game on say a dell 1530...
     
  16. Arquis

    Arquis Kojima Worshiper

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    I play on my 256mb GDDR3 8600m GT and I have everything on, except AA, depth of field, and softening on smoke edges. The game still looks insane, and I don't notice any dips.
     
  17. bubba_000

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    Just to make sure, you don't have AA or AF forced in the nvidia control panel, have you?
     
  18. AHHHRT

    AHHHRT Notebook Guru

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    Yeap, absolutely ZERO slowdowns using 169.09 for me.
     
  19. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    There is no way that you can get 4946 points on 3d Mark 06 with 1280x800 , maybe with a lower resulotion -_-;
     
  20. vashts121

    vashts121 Notebook Evangelist

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    Look at my score
    [​IMG]

    This is OLD too, I have recently broke the 5k mark with a DDR2 version of the 8600mGT. I have that exact same resolution, nothing is impossible.
     
  21. pjain

    pjain Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all

    Could someone tell me what i should do for my new 1720 inspiron 2.2 gh with nvidia geforce 8400m GS card. What all should i do to upgrade the drivers and where can i get them.

    Also could u share ur experiences and opinion on games playable on this lappie.

    Thnks
     
  22. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    You should have said, 'nothing is impossible if you overclock ;)'
     
  23. WelshBluebird

    WelshBluebird Notebook Guru

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    I beg too differ. Overclocked and with a T7500 I can get 4850. With a faster CPU, DDR3 version of the 8600M GT or a greater GPU overclocked, 5000 is obtainable IMO.
     
  24. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah sorry you guys I was wrong , I can believe him now.

    I could finally make the 169.09 drivers work and I get 4425 points with my card overclocked at 610 / 460

    so ofcourse you can get 5000 with a much better cpu like i got.
     
  25. Mimino

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    can u get 10,000 on this card? :)
     
  26. vashts121

    vashts121 Notebook Evangelist

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    [​IMG]
     
  27. sly

    sly m1530 owner!!!

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    open the window with the score listed
     
  28. B2TheEYo

    B2TheEYo Notebook Deity

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    Lmfao.. He Photoshop'd that.. I can see the color difference between the page background and the background where the score is..

    Trained eye ;)
     
  29. vashts121

    vashts121 Notebook Evangelist

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    Of course I did lol, took a whole 10 seconds.
     
  30. B2TheEYo

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    lol Score

    Me=1
    Unaware people=0
     
  31. vashts121

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  32. B2TheEYo

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    LMFAO... ROFLAMO!!! Omg, talk about a joke going wrong..

    +rep for just the good laugh and effort of actually having a sense of humor. Something I think these forums lack.

    I feel all special because I figured it out.. :D