8600M GT v. FX 570M

I just want to know which one is better overall and which one is better for games.

I know FX 570M is for workstation, but is there a driver I can download to make it better for gaming or better overall?

 

From what my friends say, they say that the 8600m GT is better. From what i've heard, I heard that the FX 570M is "under-clocked of the 8600m GT"

 

What do you mean by underclocked? Does it mean that they lowered to performance and you can bump it up to 8600M GT performance and be 100% safe?

There's so little information I can find about FX 570M. The few things I did find is that some people say that it is the same core as the 8600M GT, which I'm not sure what that really means. The 2nd thing I found is a benchmark with 3Dmark05 giving 570M 7700 and 8600M GT 6874. 570M was not scored with any other benchmark from the site I got it from.

And from the NVIDIA website :
FX 570M has GDDR3 memory typye, 128-Bit Memory Interface, 22.4GB/sec Memory Bandwidth, OpenGL 2.1, Shader Model 4.0, DirectX 10, PowerMizer Power Management 7.0

GeForce 8600M GT has 32 Stream Processors, 475MHz Core Clock, 950MHz Shader Clock, 700MHz Memory Clock, 128-Bit Memory Interface.

I really don't know how to use those information.

 

They are for different purposes, they are made to do different things, one game the other CAD and 3d modeling. They both can do the other just not optimized for it.

 

only difference between the two is the drivers.

 

i have heard that there is only a software difference between the two cards, that there is a hardware difference...

honestly i am not sure what to believe, but i do know that they DEFINITELY have a different video bios and they do run on different drivers.

if you want to play games, then the 8600m gt is a much better choice. you will get more game support, proper drivers for video games, less headache trying to turn your fx card into a geforce card, and you will get better performance.

there isn't really a question here.

autocad = FX series, games = geforce series

you aren't going to make an FX card better than a geforce card by flashing a geforce bios onto it. the best you could hope to do is get equal gaming performance out of it, and that would be through a lot of headache.

 

So what kind of performance can we expect from the 570 in games like Oblivion or Fear?

 

Everyone keeps saying it's possible to "convert" the quadro 570m into a 8600m, but how? I can't seem to find any bios or driver fix through google.

Does anyone have a links to sites explaining how previous incarnations of the quadro fx were turned into geforces?

Thanks.

 

Which one is better at minesweeper and freecell? (with all the options turned up to max)

 

I was just wondering about the two video cards. I will be getting the FX 570M because that's the best card I can get with Lenovo.
For the two, which one is better for video editing and the likes?

 

They are both very similar in performance. If the FX 570M is underclocked its performance should be similar or still above the 8600M GT with GDDR2. The potential of the 570M is good and could be equal to the 8600M GT with GDDR3.

The main problem will be drivers. Driver support for the 8600M GT is not great but improving. For the FX 570M it might be pretty bad and I am not sure if you can just use the laptopvideo2go or other modded drivers made for the 8600M GT. A driver update gave the 8600M GT a nice boost in performance. This might not be possible for the FX 570M.

 

Both are equally as good, since Videoediting is mainly CPU-Bound, then RAM, HDD, then GPU, which is used for helping playback of specific HD-video containers (like .mp4 and .wmv) in specific media players. Some Proffessional video editing tools might also take advantage of that. Otherwise it's mostly CPU bounf, like I said.

 

the FX will be fine for games. it will perform really well. you might have some driver issues, you might not.

you might even be able to install forceware drivers from laptopvideo2go.com which would help to equalize performance.

 

So is it possible that changing the 570's drivers to try and match the 8600 gt might damage your gpu, void the warranty, or anything bad like that?

I mean, if were not talking a significant difference performance-wise in games between the two cards, then i'd rather not mess around with those things.

 

Would it be possible to simply force install the 8600m gt drivers over the 570's?

Does anyone know of previous attempts to do this with older quadro's and their geforce counterparts?

Thanks.

 

Yes that is possible. The 570m is a higher end model than the 8600m Gt. Thus, you can install 8600m GT drivers for it for increased gaming performance when needed, or you can install its original drivers for better battery life and 3D apps. However, some say it is not possible installing 570M drivers on an 8600m GT because it would render it unstable. Its not built as the 570M, which the 570M is built for just performance.

Changing drivers would not damage your gpu, or void warranty. Drivers change the cards on a software level, not a hardware level. Thus, it will not damage your card, unless you over clock it with the new drivers or do something similar to that extent.

I've been told of a 60% increase in gaming performance if the 570M were to be installed with 8600M GT Drivers. However, battery life will evidently suffer for your laptop. If you over clock it with the 8600M GT driver, you can reach a 100% increase in performance but keep your laptop cool...

As masterchef said above...check the website laptopvideo2go.com for more info and support.

 

HA HA HA HA classic...

I would say you could do minesweeper on max on both, but for the 570M you would have to go down to medium-high, unless they release some updated drivers

 

there are not 8600m gt specific drivers only geforce drivers correct?

 

actually....there are drivers for 8600M GT...search videodrivers2go.com
there is a difference between quadro drivers and 8 series drivers if that is what you are asking...

 

This might give you an idea of how well the fx 570m in the thinkpad T61p will perform.

http://laptopmag.com/Review/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T61p.htm

"...delivering an average of 79 frames per second on our F.E.A.R. test with optimal settings, and a very playable 43 fps with settings maxed out."

 

The stream processors are a good point to bring up. The Quadro were developed before stream processors were put into use. While they may have been able to modify the Quadro after the fact I have seem no evidence that the Quadro is able to handle stream data as opposed to using the old vertex and pixel shader data handling.

 

But the quadro 570M is a new model based off of the 8600M GT...it should have stream processors as well right??? Plus it's a higher end model.

 

is there a 3dmark 06 comparison? or real life gaming comparison.

 

Nvidia has no information on their site about the 570M having or being capable of stream processing. The only way to know for sure would be for someone at Nvidia with strong knowledge of the card to tell us, or to run a program that tests stream processing (as far as I know none exist).

 

Nevertheless, benchmarks have proven that the 570M actually performs better than the 8600M GT