8600gt vs. 8700gt

it shouldn't, x205 got a better gpu and that's what matters

 

what ?? dont know where you read about the heating is a pain in 14'' Zeptos but its not true....
There is no more heat in the 14'' zepto than the 15'' zepto, and the heat is low... i can tell you that a 17'' dell have the same heat "problem" as my zepto has, with the 8600gt card.. have compared it..

 

Ahh my 8700M GT can't even play a point-n-click 3D game...
Downloaded demo from www.broken-sword.com
but getting only 1-10fps with 3d images shuttering when moving characters...
even with lower resolutions.
What is happening? 8700M GT can't play even last year's 3D game!!

 

Sorry, mak, but I remember reading the reviews stating that the Zepto was extremely hot. I guess I'm taking your word for it since you own one. xD

 

I believe the Zepto had heat (or noise?) problems then they released a BIOS update which fixed everything (if im not mistaken)

 

They had heat problems on the older version with the 7600gt card.... but with the 8600gt the heat problem was no more, but instead there was a noise problem... the fans was running on max, but was solved fast with a bios-update...

 

I'm almost certain there's never been a 14.1" notebook with a Go7600GT....

 

THere was a 17" Sony laptop with a go7600GT

 

hmm... maybe without the GT... just Go7600 ??

 

most powerful GPU in a 14" pre Geforce 8 = go7700

 

Thought I might throw my two cents in...

The 8700 is superior to the 8600 for another reason, that's only been slightly mentioned before - its MXM III. So when 8800 comes out its upgradeable from a 8700, and hopefully the really really good stuff will be too... like the 8900 and 8950 (guessing they'll be the names).

I've 256+256 8700 and plan on getting a 512+512 8800/8900/8950 in 12/18 months down the line with an upgrade from Dell. So I'm happy either way... only concern will be whether the really high end stuff will still be MXM III, I know that 8800 will be... hopefully the rest will be too.

 

I'm fairly certain the M1730 does not use MXM, so I'm not entirely sure what you're referring too.

 

From what the forums have taught me Dell does not use the MXM format for its notebooks, it uses a proprietary format that allows for upgrades depending on the size of the card and the notebook in question along with the notebook's age.

72hundred you will have to wait and see what Dell will offer for the video card upgrade for your M1730. It's more than likely you'll see it happen but as mentioned in other threads the 8700 card size is so large that 17" models are the only notebooks capable of housing the card and keeping it cool enough.

 

The difference at stock clocks between using a single 8700gt in my M1730 and my 8600gt vostro....in bioshock,max settings,is the 8600gt at 800x600 and the non sli 8700gt at 1280x800 to achieve similar fps.

I wouldn't doubt for a second that if you could raise the vostro's 8600gt to 625/800 from the standard 475/400 you would get similar performance with GDDR3 memory and a few more volts.

Big difference in heat output from the two as they are,even at idle,with the 8700gt constantly cycling to 67 degrees C before the fans comes on and reduce it to 61 in about 15 seconds,takes about 30 seconds to get to 67 again...so on and so on........the 8600gt in the vostro pretty much stays around 45 deg C idling....so maybe this is why no one wants to put an 8700gt into a 15 incher....which is unfortunate.

 

is the 8600gt SLI better than a single 8700ft then?

 

Yes, of course, but only if the game supports SLI.


btw, any of you out there with an 8600m GT playing GEARS OF WAR PC yet? I'm getting an average of 30fps everywhere in max settings @1920x1200 .. hardly ever hiccups lower either.. (on my 8700m GT)

 

This really is a misnomer, as SLI can be enabled for any game or application. It is true (in general) that games with a hardcoded SLI mode usually take advantage of SLI setups more efficiently, but it's not like you would ever only be using one card (unless you wanted to for some reason).

Edit:And also, to the poster above, in some cases an 8600M-GT SLI setup would be slower than a single 8700M-GT setup (though not by too much).

 

Not sure if this is just Alienware ummm, spiel. But when talking to them on their recent additions to the M9750 (Dual 8700's that cost £80 more than Dual 7950's) they told me that the 8700 can "combine" its memory in SLI.

If you check their "Configurator" (UK) and compare they list the 7950 SLI as...

Dedicated Graphics Memory: 512MB (per graphics card)

and the 8700 SLI as...

Dedicated Graphics Memory: 1GB (combined)

I also noticed that Notebookcheck.net shows it as 2x128 in SLI.

Perhaps all this is just mis-information. But as an educated guess, perhaps 'Dual Rank' is something that only applies with SLI? Whatever it is? And maybe its related to the above?

 

Interesting snippet of info there Rob.

odin243,couldn't agree with you more about SLI,you can enable SLI for any game,but very few see a great performance increase.......Bioshock is the only game I've played where I have had a pretty much 100% increase in frame rates by using SLI,most others I've tried [Stalker,Far cry,Graw2,HL2]see little to no increase by enabling it [in my experiments]

My belief,is that SLI is mostly a waste of time,considering the hit in portability,power req you get by having it,which is why my XPS is boxed up,waiting for the courier to return to dell.

I would love to see the new XPS 1530 or upgraded asus G1 fitted with the 8700 standard.....at least you know then that the cooling has been designed for the temps produced by the chip.

 

Wow. Now that's something I'm picking up!

 

Hello,

Sorry to dig out this old topic, but I am confused about a choice. There is the new Acer laptop in 2 different version one with 9500M and an other with 9650M some people say they are clone of 8600 and 8700 first is it true ? the price difference between 2 models is of 200 euros so I am wondering if it is a worth to take the expensive one ? the model of Laptop are : Acer Aspire 8920G-934G64Bn and 8920G-834G32Bn

Thanks for your help