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    8600m GT Overlock...is this a good score?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by lucirz, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    is this a good score for an inspiron 1520 8600m GT overclock? 3dmark05 free edition was used at default settings pics below:

    EDIT: UPDATED, I NOW USED 3DMARK06, SCORES AND SETTINGS BELOW:

    system specs
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    NVIDIA 258.96 drivers
    inspiron 1520
    2 gig ram
    intel core 2 duo t7500 2.2ghz
    8600m gt DDR2
    Windows XP sp3

    SCORE:
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    RIVATUNER SETTINGS:
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    TEMPERATURE:
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    3DMARK06 SETTINGS:
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  2. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Thats a very good score! The GPU temps are good, as are the CPU temps.
     
  3. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    thanks, it's my first time overclocking, so i don't know what to make of it. man overclocking is so sexy. before i could not even play NFS shift without lag and now it runs at 25-34 fps !!!1 so happy :D. and the funny thing is that the gpu is even cooler now than when i had not overclocked it lol.

    btw im using the 258.96 drivers from nvidia.com and i recommend anyone to use it!!! it is great. before the new drivers i have a 3dmark05 score of 6100, with the new driver it went to 6700!!!! 600 point increase, JUST FROM THE NEW DRIVER!
     
  4. samozen

    samozen Notebook Consultant

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    can i overclock my 8400m gt ???
     
  5. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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    Yes, but I wouldn't.

    OP, why don't you use 3DMark 06? or Vantage? I think a lot of people here, me included, are horribly unfamiliar with 05.
     
  6. Kocane

    Kocane Notebook Deity

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    Try with 06 and i can tell you how good it is compared to my experience :p Can't make anything out of 05, as Shadow says.
     
  7. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    same here.. 06 would be much easier for us to make out..
     
  8. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    I couldn't agree more. 06 and Vantage for today's benching standards. My 8600 as well.
     
  9. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    k ill try 06...BUT IT TAKES SO LONG TO DOWNLOAD LMAO
     
  10. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    btw how do i make my pictures small on the forum? i uploaded them too big and they took up too much space

    @at someformofhuman, wow your laptops are so pimped out lol
     
  11. yotano211

    yotano211 Notebook Evangelist

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    630mhz on the core, your gpu wont last. the 8600m gts are known to be bad cards. if you want to game get a min of. 8800m gts or better.
     
  12. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    ^^ Don't be quick to judge. I've mine overclocked + BIOS flashed + Powermizer disabled continuously for 2.5 years now and still runs flawlessly under 65*C maxed without even the use of a cooler or an air-conditioned room. It has been gaming non-stop everyday by my younger cousins; Crysis, L4D2, FC2, and other FPS titles even SC2 for many hours (5 to 6 hours of gaming) till today.

    Besides, there are even 8800M GTS/GTX GPUs that even failed sooner than expected as well.

    The 8600M and 8400M in Dell Inspiron and Vostro (the 15" and 17") notebooks have the least of all failure rates among all notebooks with G84 8400M/8600M cores. And not under Dell's list of defective GPUs one of which being due to their proprietary design (Non-MXM but yet removale) and their highly complimented cooling capabilities (temperatures notably run around 40 - 70*C maxed) unlike the M1530 and M1330s models. But that doesn't mean you don't take note of the precautions of keeping it cool and monitoring the continuous up and down thermal cycles.

    You can use Imageshack as it will resize them for you. For me I've a photobucket account, the thumbnail images can be hotlinked to the larger resolutions.
     
  13. samozen

    samozen Notebook Consultant

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    i just installed rivatuner and change the values :
    Core Clock 450-->675
    Shader Clock 900-->1350
    Memory Clock 602-->602

    and run 3dmark06 before the changes and it give me 2930
    and after the changes it gives me 3825,
    i think that is good.the temperatures are good they keep the same,any sugestions???
     
  14. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    ok guys, here are my scores for 3dmark06, i used the default settings because i dled the basic program. man the cpu test was raping me though, i wished i had a better cpu. and if this 8600m gt was gddr3 instead of ddr2, it would be beastly.....

    MY SCORES:
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    MY SETTINGs:
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  15. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    still its ok, but the 8600 starting to show its age, also since ur running it at a custom res its hard for other to compare since the standard is 1280x1024
     
  16. TehSuigi

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    You're still pantsing my 9500M GS in 3DMark06 even on a slower CPU and higher resolution.
    512 MHz on memory, and you're still stable? Jee-zuss...
     
  17. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    it's actually very stable. before i could not even play nfs shift on low without lag and now i play it on med-high settings with 25-32 fps.

    also i just played assassin's creed 2 with everything maxed except vsync and i plays very well. in very crowded areas, fps is around 16-22 fps. however, even at those fps, it does not feel slow, it actually plays very smooth and if not for fraps i would not even notice the low fps. and other areas it goes from 26-31 fps.

    HERE CHECK OUT THE PICS OF ASSASSIN'S CREED 2 WITH FRAPS

    SETTINGS:
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    IN GAME GAMEPLAY FPS:
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  18. Triple_Dude

    Triple_Dude Notebook Evangelist

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    Just a word from someone who's got burned TWICE by the 8600M GT's mem being over clocked on a Dell Vostro 1500... Don't leave it at 512Mhz, it'll likely burn out very quickly. My first 8600M GT burned out within 10 months with the Mem OC'd to 500Mhz, and my second one could barely push 425Mhz without graphical artifacts (default is 400, for those without a 8600M GT DDR2)!

    So... yeah, take good care of it, unless you're planning on upgrading soon, haha. The 8600M GT DDR2 is definitely showing its age, SC2 doesn't even run smoothly during bigger battles with Medium shader quality :(. I wish Dell released the GDDR3 version on their Inspiron/Vostro line as well back in the days! Ah well, c'est la vie.
     
  19. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    It'll highly depend on the 8600M OC'ing capabilities. Not all are built the same while some don't OC as much as they do. I've my memory OC'ed to 525Mhz and no problems for 2.5 years. I can push mine further to 545MHz stable without artifacting, but there should be a safe 30 - 40Mhz offset from its maximum running limit. So it varies from card to card.
     
  20. Triple_Dude

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    Yep, of course it completely depends on the individual card itself, but that's my point--take good care and keep a watchful eye, or it'll burn out if you happen to have gotten a lemon (like I did, twice) and aren't paying attention. Some cards are more susceptible to heat damage than others, so it's always better safe than sorry.

    EDIT: One thing I should mention is that the 258.96 driver does *NOT* allow you to force the card to run under a certain "performance mode" (i.e. 2D Mode, low performance 3D, or performance 3D). Why should it even matter, you ask? Good question, and I have a good answer: Forcing it to run on 2D Mode will actually undervolt your GPU, and thus making it create less heat (and use less power, saving you on electricity bills, lol). The reason is because the GPU is set to run at a lower voltage via BIOS if it's under "2D Mode". Before upgrading to 258.96 (which I just did an hour ago after reading this thread), I was on 186.81, and it allowed that feature. I'm not too torn about it because there was some problems that driver was starting to introduce (the driver would hang for 15 or so seconds everytime I loaded or unloaded a video file from a media player). But I'm sure if I shopped around with the 19x.xx series, I can find one that'll allow "forcing" of the performance mode without the driving hang problem.
     
  21. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    Yes and I didn't say not be safe isn't it? ;) It's even written on my 2nd post last paragraph of this forum to monitor the card carefully.
     
  22. TehSuigi

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    Also be wary of memory overclocking because the memory chips don't have thermal diodes - you're completely in the dark as to how warm those things are getting.
     
  23. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    Yes, I should say its unfortunate. Well again it's not that core goes over 80 - 100*C, so my theory is that the memory should follow suit, probably a 5 or 10 degree offset difference. Does your 9500M GS report the memory temperatures?
     
  24. Triple_Dude

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    I highly doubt it. Memory modules don't have thermal diodes on them as a general rule of thumb, and I don't see why that would change for his 9500M GS.
     
  25. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    Nah, I'm just wondering if his 9500M has. Unfortunately not shown in my 9800M GTX as well. Some ATI cards do, like the HD4570 in the Studio 15, so therefore I'm wondering if they include that in the lower end 9 series.

    Anyway I think we've gotton off-topic. @lucirz, good score, (Yes I just hope at times it would've been a GDDR3 instead of DDR2) just remember to monitor your temperatures from time to time especially during gaming. May I suggest lowering down your memory as a safe offset distance from its stable running value. What tool did you use to test for artifacts?
     
  26. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    @someformofhuman, None, i just played new games like assassin's creed 2, codmw2 and etc at high settings for a couple of hours and did not noticed artifacting, that was how i tested it lol.

    there are tools to test for such things? name some for me please? like i said, im new to this stuff lol
     
  27. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I had a 9500m GS, no temps from the vram.
     
  28. Bedis

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    BTW i have a 8400 mgs in m1330.I overclock it and in 10mins it throttles down!
     
  29. TehSuigi

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    Of course not, that's why I posted what I did! :)
     
  30. Kilador

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    It's actually a good score; I have the GDDR3 version @ 625/800 and get almost 5800 3Dmark06 I can't push it more because of artifacts, but the temps are fine even at 700Mhz =/