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    8600m GT overheating?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by MrMe93, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. MrMe93

    MrMe93 Notebook Guru

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    I have a XPS m1530 (the #1 lappy on notebook review :)) with an 256 MB 8600m GT GDDR3. My GPU is about 65 degrees celsius while idle and when i game it averages about 105 (Half-Life 2, if i play COD4 it shuts down). How hot can I let it get before I should get worried? I looked around a little while and people say that gamin OC'd they have 70 - 80C.
     
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    dYlJ Notebook Enthusiast

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    105 Celsius is much too hot.

    I have the same xps 1530, and play both those games as well. My GPU never goes past 80 degrees Celsius.
     
  3. dYlJ

    dYlJ Notebook Enthusiast

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    (I have my clocks set to 650/850.)
     
  4. ahl395

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    Yeah, i agree, If your overclocked i suggest you downclock it back to normal.
     
  5. vashts121

    vashts121 Notebook Evangelist

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    90c is when you should start worrying. My laptop is 59c idle, 78c under load. What you can do to lower the temps is open it up, clean all dust, apply thermal paste onto the gpu, and get a laptop cooler.
     
  6. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    yeah way too hot... mine maxes out at 60c.
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Woohoo. You can boil water in that thing.

    -Check for dust in the vents, clean them
    -Lay off the OC, if you`re not OC`ing,then see further.
    -Keep the notebook on a solid surface, NOT on material. Gaming laptops are hot and need cool air under them to be able to cool down the components
    -If you`ll still have overheating issues after that, contact Dell, you have hardware problems.
     
  8. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    Raise the back up at an angle.... that dropped my temp by at lease 5c(I used a book until I got a cooler).
     
  9. Icaru506

    Icaru506 Notebook Consultant

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    I've no experience of the Dell, and so don't know it's normal temp. range, but my ASUS G1S, and several other 8600m GT notebooks run GPU temps of up to 105 all day long (stock clocks)
     
  10. MrMe93

    MrMe93 Notebook Guru

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    Sorry for not answering anyone on this thread. I was on a trip in germany :). I'm not OC'd or on a cloth surfacde when i game. I'm on a nice hard surface, I have a 9 cell battery so that the laptop is at an angle and ever since the comp started shutting down on COD4 i raised the front half some more so i have 2 or 3 inches of room under that laptop. I'll check for dust when i'm done here in a few min. hopefully that's the problem.
    I've been playing Half-Life 2 recently because i got sick of crysis (i beat the game onevery difficulty settng and 4 times on delta) and cod4 overheated to much. When i play it on "power saver" mode the temp dosn't usually break 100. On "balanced it averages about 105 and on "high performance" it isn't unusual to hit 120. I just got RivaTuner to moniter the temps after it started shutting down on COD4. Is it possible for it to have overheated so much before i monitered the temps that it melted some thermal coating or something?
     
  11. MrMe93

    MrMe93 Notebook Guru

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    oh, one more thing. I have driver version 174.31. do some drivers make your gpu run hotter then others?
     
  12. lozanogo

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    Some people have reported that indeed drivers can make the laptop run hotter. But given the model you have, your max temperatures are way out of the average reported in this forum. If you are under warranty I would contact Dell and ask them to send a guy to check what's wrong with the heat sink or the card itself.
     
  13. MrMe93

    MrMe93 Notebook Guru

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    I would have a dell dude coe look at my laptop. But i'm both in spain and on a military base and don't think they could get here
     
  14. Leon

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    Yeah, the lappy is pretty hot. I run at 62 idle and 68 under heavy load.
     
  15. miscolobo

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    OMFG howly sh!T! thats hooooooooooot! get a laptop cooler
     
  16. Leon

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    Lol. Laptop coolers will help, but I think you should get Dell to fix it first.
     
  17. miscolobo

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    Roger at the post before! that temp is abnormal! But its still not hotter than me :D
     
  18. Leon

    Leon Notebook Deity

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    I'm sure... Miscolobo...
     
  19. MrMe93

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    I'm contacting Dell right now. Hopefully I don't have to exchange my laptop.
     
  20. JCMS

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    I call that a freezer >_> Mine runs at 100C underload, and that's when I force 100% usage on CPU to activate the fans, 110 otherwis
     
  21. eleron911

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    I don`t know how you people can run at temps above 85C. That will kill the laptop in less then 3 years.
     
  22. andygb40

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    Mine runs at 94C max under load. It is a 14.1" laptop though. NVidia reckon the max operating temp is 127C for the 8600M GT.
     
  23. comper

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    eleron911, threshold temps are around 120 for these GPUs.
     
  24. Icaru506

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    CEleron, to put the record straight, you're frequently scaremongering with regards to temperatures, and stating your personal opinion as fact. Here's one fact: Many forum users own 15.4'' or smaller laptops, which maintain GPU temperatures of around 100 degrees celcius all day long, at stock clocks, whilst gaming. It's perfectly normal for certain models, and just because your very own machine isn't one of them, it doesn't mean it's wrong.
     
  25. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    I doubt 100c all day long. It will shut off automatically before 105c as a fail-safe.
     
  26. andygb40

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    No it won't...... I've had 110C and it ran okay, for at least 2hours. As stated above these GPU's can and do run quite hot. I'm not too happy that it gets to this temp though, this is why I keep installing new drivers as and when they come out. So far no real change in all the drivers I've tested (156.54 to 174.40).
    edit: Some manufacturers may impose this shutting down at 110C to assist in longevity though through the BIOS.
     
  27. Icaru506

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    Yet again, opinions of the misinformed being stated as fact.
     
  28. Kaine13x7

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    i dont understand how your 8600gt runs so hot. I have a t61p with the quadro 570m basically same thing and i idle at 60C and under 3dsmarks06 load i never go over 82 thats overclocked about 28 percent mind you. During gaming in quake 3 i have never broke 66 degrees. Rather weird.
     
  29. flipfire

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    Firstly it is a fact that most GPU's will shutdown or BSOD when it reaches around 105+- mark. Why? Because its getting to hot that it might cause hardware damage.

    Heres another undeniable fact: Heat kills GPU's

    So tell me if we had the same gpu and mine ran at 70c while yours ran at 100c. Which would last longer?

    Even desktop GPU's with their own dedicated cooling fans arent recommended to run at 100c.
     
  30. G1S_Noodle

    G1S_Noodle Notebook Consultant

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    DAmn!!!

    Lol, mate... and I thought my laptop was getting way too hot with its 96 ºC degrees...

    Hehehe... just kidding... but you definitely should worry about this temps... something must be seriously wrong w/your laptop... unless you're using it on the Desert or outdoor under the hot sun of the tropics... :rolleyes:
     
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  31. MrMe93

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    I contacted tech support. I'm going to have my GPU changed out when my dad goes back to the states in a month. With my new GPU when should I stop gaming and let it cool? when it hits 95?
     
  32. Channelz

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    now that ive seen this topic i have a question as well....

    -I OC'd my 8600mgt, just to play crysis with the rivatuner software, i used to have it OCd at 600/850 (core/memory clocks) and it ran ok (72c was top temp)...and so i tried getting some more 600/900(was wtching temp and it was like 72c then i stopped looking and started playing)...but then after like 20 secs of playing crysis my lappy froze and i had to hit power button, tried once more and it did the same so i stoped trying....

    -is there any chance any part of my hardware got damaged? (dont remember smelling smoke or anything...)
    -How can i be sure of that?
     
  33. andygb40

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    drop back to stock speeds and give it a go for a while. If you still see the problem you may have another issue that is causing the fault or you may have damaged your graphics card, too many variables to say for sure what is wrong on a forum, but I'd see if dropping the speed to standard helps, also might want to try different drives as this may be the issue, I've recently had a problem with drivers from 174.16 onwards, they seem okay for a while,then all of a sudden start to crash my comp. I've gone back to the standard ones issued by Zepto and all is good again.
     
  34. Sacred G

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    If everything works with your new gpu MrMe you wont have to worry about getting that high, those temps that you are getting (in a m1530 with 8600gt, not talking to you asus users who get 95+) are insanely high.

    I have never been past 78 degrees while playing cod4 and overclocked 600/850 according to rivatuner. personally, if mine ever gets past 80 I'm tuning down or turning off the overclock while gaming. right now im just surfing internet and getting 55.
     
  35. eleron911

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    Okay, dude ,have it your way,We'll talk in 1 year.
    What you don`t realise is that the notebook is an enclosed space,and there's alot of components here,starting from gpu,cpu,hdd,wifi,etc.
    When 1 component is hot,every other component gets hot.
    Anything above 90C is abnormally high and even though the laptop can still run,sure,it's a matter of time until something in it dies.
    Ask any engineer that's not out to sell you BS , water boiling point is too much for an electronic discrete component.
    Stop being so stuck up,if yours runs hot it does not mean it's normal. It just means your manufacturer cares less if your laptop will last more than 2 years.
     
  36. cathy

    cathy Notebook Evangelist

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    That's a bloody high temperature you're getting. I've got a Macbook Pro which are notorious for running very hot, but my temperatures only hit about 82 C while overclocked at 600/900 playing COD4. Maximum temperature I have ever hit is 89 C. Even then at 82 C, I'm still getting pretty worried. Gonna get myself a laptop cooler soon.
     
  37. sgtmatt1

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    I know I know, the G1S is know for his high GPU temperatures but mine idles at 58°C with my zalman notebook cooler on, and can max at 80-90°C in some games (Already had in the 90°C when it was summer..)

    The GPU can handle such serious heat, the Asus support answered me that the 8600M GT GDDR3 can handle up to 120°C !!

    So I think your Dell XPS m1530 can also handle the temperature...
     
  38. min2209

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    Ironically the GPU in the M1530 is supposed to run cooler than the one in the G1S despite the fact that it is a lighter and thinner noteook. In any case, mine hits ~94 or so in games like Crysis and idles at about 65-68.
     
  39. Channelz

    Channelz Notebook Guru

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    Well, core clocks set to normal and using ati tool, when scanning for artifacts it seems like everythings clear, so that means no hardware damage? right? any othe way to check?
     
  40. Iceman0124

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    Crank up the fan(s) I8kfangui is a great temp monitoring/fans speed control system for dells.
     
  41. Icaru506

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    Firstly, I am an engineer, and as such, I have my own opinions, and do actually realise that a notebook is an enclosed space.

    And yes, one of them is that I do think the temperature of my, and all other G1S's is high, but, without using a cooler (Impractical in my field), there's not much I can do about it. The internal cooling is not as efficient as other models.

    However, everytime someone posts on here stating that their GPU temp exceeds 90 degrees, you're telling them to get it fixed, or clean out the vents, when with several models, there's nothing to fix, that's the way the are.
     
  42. eleron911

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    Since when sugestions like those are an issue? I am an engineer also,soon to be,in the electrical field and it`s common sense for me that a high temperature means a high heat level :)
    It`s nothing personal,but when somebody does not have his system in the sig, or doesn`t mention what he has, when you hear 90C youl get worried.
    True,my notebook`s cooling system is far better,but that`s not to say yours isn`t. I just wouldn`t feel confortable running a system that hot. But Asus G1S users especially seem to go just fine. FOR NOW. Remember,the G1S is not that old.
    I hate it when manufacturers do only half the job right,and sugestions like the ones I posted help at least a bit.
    It`s just trying to be helpful,I also did not know much in the beginning :)
     
  43. sgtmatt1

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    Yep, I got the same temperatures but like i said, my zalman cooler is always on full speed so it lowers the temperature of my 8600M GT.. :p
     
  44. canada16

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    Hey

    I have the same car a nvidia 8600gt ddr3 from the xps1530.

    I bought the new T8300 Penryn which idles at about 40 degrees

    now when playing heavy games my system just freezes after about 2 hours or so, I have all the updates, and 2gb ram, dont know what is causing this, not sure if my system is overheating as well.

    I have the problem on fear at the moment, but not sure if this is a problem game for doing this,

    xps1530
    nvidia 8600gt ddr3
    2gb ram soon to be 3gb ram as ordered one
    1440x900 lg screen
    vista 32bit
    wifi
    bluetooth
     
  45. disciplined

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    Something people need to understand about overclocking:
    Temperature is a great guide to the limits but is not the final indicator.

    Stability is key! One game may run great on a high clock and another game might die in 15 sec on the same clock. So don't look at temperature as the final say on how close you are to the limit.

    Crysis is really sensitive to overclocking. When I play crysis I have to turn the clocks down a little or else it will simply freeze or crash without first artifacting or showing high temps. While Witcher takes OC like a champ and I can max out the card and the game has no issues with it.

    Don't get dessapointed and start playing the numbers game. When you are getting close to the limit then the gains by forcing a few more clocks won't effect much and are not worth it.

    Be wise.
     
  46. canada16

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    hey

    i got no over clock on mine factory standard xps1530 and still crashes after 2 or so hours of gaming on fear
     
  47. Sepharite

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    Just curious, when gaming (TF2), I get 78c, and 59 idle temp. I have the Dell Inspiron 1520, is that normal?
     
  48. HTWingNut

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    Undervolt undervolt undervolt CPU - if your notebook shares the same heatpipe as your GPU that is.
     
  49. Sgt. Hollywood

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    Just curious, if your temps are in a good range. Have you ever checked memory usage after 2 hours or so? About the time it takes to crash, maybe you've got a funky memory leak somewhere. It doesn't happen with other games?
     
  50. subheight640

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    I agree. Undervolting will do wonders to heating issues.
     
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