860m/960m and 4k gaming

I know the 860m is very weak.
I know the 4k setting is demanding

I just want to play 4k mixed settings low/medium/high

Im interested in the eurocom m4 with the 2560x1440 display (860m). And the lenovo y50 70 uhd with 960m.

should i stick to 1080p or go for 4k for future proofing, will a 860m handle medium settings and 4k on most AAA games like GTA V.

Any ideas>?

 

Forget it.. Get something like a P870DM if you want to play 4K on high.. The M4 will do games on low on 1440p...

 

For gaming, stick with 1080p.

 

As noted, not even a chance with this graphics card. Even a GTX 980M is no good; single card 4K gaming just isn't within the reach of today's mobile GPU's. I'm afraid this is a classic case where technology hasn't quite caught up.

4K in general is a waste of time on notebooks - there's no tangible benefit over 1080p, not to mention excessive resource usage and greatly reduced battery life.

Charles

 

great. thanks for the responsive answers. I decided to narrow my search down to 1080p notebooks

 

The GTX 960M = GTX 750 Ti = lol 4K

 

Just FYI, I have a P651SE with a 970M and 4k display... there is no possibility that you are going to play any modern titles at 4K. Older and less demanding games can get up to 60fps but with newer titles, it is never going to happen unfortunately. I wish I had bought the version with the 1080p panel but the local vendor only supplies this chassis with the 4K one. It is more trouble than it is worth.

 

Just for kicks.

I hooked up my laptop (specs in sig) to my 4K TV, ran Witcher 3 and jacked up the resolution. It looked glorious, and ran at an equally glorious 12 FPS.

@ryanev84 - don't bother with either the Eurocom M4 (Clevo W230SS) or the Lenovo Y50/70. The GTX 860M/960M GPUs won't cut it for future games. Consider the Eurocom Monster 4 ( Clevo P640RE) instead. Excellent price point and a GTX 970M too, which will handle most games at 1080p at almost ultra settings and still net you 45-60 FPS.

 

im interested in this because of the price

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...spx?path=41956ddd5f04fa362c409f0da79fcb1een02

im just concerned about the 3200x1800 resolution display. it will be good for movies and netflix. but for gaming will i be able to run medium settings. it seems obvious that ultra is a no go so why test to show how low your fps is? not everyone thinks the same and wants the highest possible settings. so in short

3200x1800 medium on games 2014 and older?
1920x1080 high on games 2014 and newer? and will it look sharp at 1080p ona 13.3 in laptop or scaling blurriness still remains and is un avoidable? if anyone owns the m4 with the qhd would you recommend the 1080p version, or the 1440p version, oR the bestbuy version with the insanely discounted price?

 

For games just run it at 1600x900 if you have a 3200x1800 screen. Half the resolution and should still look crisp.

 

Are you really claiming that a card won't cut it just because it won't get you 60FPS at ultra? 860M/960M are great cards for those of us that can't stomach the noise/heat of going for the higher models. Newer games aren't going to crush existing hardware. They're using the same console hardware as a baseline that last years games used. These days, the difference between playing on medium and ultra just isn't that dramatic.

 

Of course not. I'm claiming that the 860M/960M won't cut it because I can't get above 45 FPS on medium and on 900p resolution, in games like Witcher 3.

Comparing PC to console gaming is a moot point, because developers aim for 1080p/900p 30 FPS on consoles. They don't really bother about the graphical fidelity (except for excessively high-res textures because of the shared 8 GB VRAM/system RAM) and merely tune the game up/down to hit that benchmark. That's it.

As for heat and noise - I can gladly say the 860M/960M are not the most efficient. The 970M is highest on the performance-per-watt curve (where notebook GPUs are concerned), and the 860/960Ms are limited by the low memory bandwidth and low number of cores (just 640).

Finally, I myself own a notebook with a GTX 860M in it (in my signature) and I definitely feel the pinch on new games.

 

Heh see to me that's perfectly fine. Witcher is a taxing game and what you say doesn't cut it sounds ok to me. I'd prefer it to be better, but that's the kind of result that wouldn't affect my gameplay experience and that's the most important part. Plus open world, foliage heavy games always bog down harder than others. I doubt Xcom 2 will have nearly as much trouble when it is released.

860M/960M may not be most efficient per watt, but there's a big jump in noise or heft when you move beyond it in current devices.

Per your sig, is that a Hackintosh setup you're using? How's the performance? I used to Vbox Mac for development but the performance was abysmal.

 

To prove this, we need to see how the P640RE performs, given that it has similar dimensions to the W230SS.

Yep, hackintosh indeed. Performance is excellent, you get native UEFI booting, native power management and Intel SpeedStep and Turbo Boost working as in Windows. Only downside is that OS X doesn't support Nvidia Optimus, so the dGPU has to be kept disabled when booting to OS X. Next downside is that OS X has a very limited selection of WiFi chips it supports, so I need to get a USB dongle. I don't move around much for now, though, so Ethernet works perfectly fine.

 

so 860m wont handle 900p??? confused after watching youtube videos

 

Can handle it on most games, up to recent ones. But its performance is quickly diminishing with newest games. Its basically an entry level gaming GPU for actual gaming, so you do get playing performance with increasing compromise.

It's desktop equivalent is the entry level GPU to game. If you don't care about dropping settings, it's a good little capable GPU.

 

To be fair I never bought my laptop with the intention of gaming but I was very surprised that it runs everything at 1080p (with a mix of medium/high some games run above 1080p) just fine. It's also very quiet and very cool.

I mostly play swtor, fallout 4, shadow of mordor and dying light atm.

 

I also have the clevo w230ss with the 860m. I mostly got it for business purposes, but I am using it more for gaming than my other laptop with 970m sli. I got tired of carrying a 20lb laptop.

The little laptop is a pretty decent power house for its size.

 

If you don't want the monster, Happy to take it off you (for free) lol..

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