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    860m is a Beast

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HaloGod2012, Apr 29, 2014.

  1. HaloGod2012

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    Maxwell is truly an amazing chip. Picked up an asus G750 with an 860m for some portable gaming aside from my 780ti sli desktop. With stock voltages and some tweaking i am able to match, or beat, the stock 870m and smoke the 770m. Check out my fire strike score, 4600 on the GPU. My max temps are in the upper 60's. Anyone else have an 860m? If i can get a modded vbios so i can change voltages I am sure I can take this thing to 880m levels.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/2974033


    EDIT: with a modded vbios i hit over 5000 in firestrike!

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/2981759?
     
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    you did the +135Mhz +400 Mem oc ? nice score ;)
     
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    Hmmm. I am looking into getting a new laptop to replace my still faithful, but showing its age, p150HM, and I am wondering if I should take the 860m route now. I was looking mostly at the 870m, but those scores are really nice!
     
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    Prema should be coming out with a modded vBIOS in the near future to push it past 135 core limit, but that is for Sager version only. As a beta tester, I'm up to max +280 on the core, even with the overvolt, which at max only really bumps it up to +0.0375V or 37.5mV, so doesn't help a whole lot. He may be able to help you out (and donations are of course welcomed) - visit biosmods.wordpress.com

    But +700!? I can't get past +180 on the vRAM! Asus may have used better memory.
     
  7. HaloGod2012

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    yes the asus 860m has Hynix VRAM, ive taken it all the way to +800 and was able to game and benchmark. I left a message for prema on the wordpress site, will def donate if he can mod the vbios.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    You need to extract it from your system bios first.

    The 860m represents what will be the minimum recommended speed of the next true generation for gamers.

    Good scores for a chip it's size but it will be crushed by the 880m in the 1080p extreme benchmark.
     
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    @ over 2x the TDP, heck probably 2.5x the TDP. So sure I can see why.
     
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    So with a modded vbios soon, im hoping i can get this card to run watch dogs. From what I have heard, even a stock 860m should run it on mostly medium with some high settings..
     
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    Yes that is why, I'm just trying to get people to recogonise the relative absolute performance of the chips at 1080p.
     
  12. Any_Key

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    The recommended card for Watch Dogs is a 560 Ti, so yeah, even at stock the 860M is above the recommended spec by just a bit.
     
  13. octiceps

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    Being that it's a Ubisoft game, listed system requirements mean exactly squat as you just know it will run like crap no matter how much hardware you throw at it. Seriously, has there ever been a well-optimized Ubisoft game, at least in the last 5 years?
     
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    Very good point, forgot the Ubisoft factor. :p
     
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    Yeah this game looks cpu hungry, either way ill have this 860m ready with a 5500 to 6k gpu score in firestrike as soon as i get some more juice in this thing :) ....or if I can actually be home for once I can play it on my desktop
     
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    4700HQ won't be enough. 'Cause it's a Ubicrap game.
     
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    I've got a 850m in my Asus N550JK. Just by doing the simple +135 core and 200mhz memory bump (I get artifacts after 200mhz more on Memory, maybe because this is DDR3 version of the 850m) but i'm beating a stock 860m in terms of performance.

    5098 graphics score in 3dmark11.

    Notebookcheck has their 860m doing a 49xx graphics score.

    So I feel good about that.. I know the 860m in the ROG Asus should have a lot more headroom in the OC dept though.

    If I could figure out how to up the voltage and or be able to go beyond the 135 limit I should be able to do better. What mandates this 135mhz limit, I read that its the Nvidia driver itself but is it the gpu bios?
     
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    These cards seem like affordable choices but if these cards are that good overclocked imagine maxwell ... OMG.
     
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    Nice scores. 6990m still kicks
     
  20. HaloGod2012

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    860m is maxwell
     
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    Actually, you are both right.

    The soldered 860M w/3GB RAM Maxwell. The MXM 860M w/ 6GB RAM is Kelper.

    Confused yet? :D
     
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    or, the 2GB 860m is maxwell, the 4GB is kepler, i believe lol
     
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    Well now... aren't I the smarty pants!

    You are correct sir. :)

    Sent with love from my Galaxy S4
     
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    wow, have expectedthe 860m performance to be good, but didn't expect it to be that good with so much overclocking overhead. i'am getting 3300 with 4700 and 750m gt sli.
     
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    Or, for even more flavor, I've got a 2GB soldered Kepler 860m ;)

    Go Nvidia for the confusion win! :thumbsup:
     
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    Really? Wow, manufacturers of these gpu's need to get cracked by the whip from Nvidia, too much fragmentation
     
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    Yep, I think in my particular case it was done because the GS60 is offered with both a 860m or a 870m soldered to the same motherboard to keep things thin... so, seems it's easier to just use the same architecture chip in this scenario, and since there isn't a 870m Maxwell available, they stuck a Kepler 860m on the board to prevent having to use two different motherboards.

    Speculation of course, but it's all I can figure... Still have no idea why Nvidia even released two different architectures of the same 860m in the first place however unless they just had a bunch of leftovers to get rid of ;)
     
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    Im going to be getting an 860m soon what overclocking software are you using and could you post a link to it
     
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    That's not speculation but cold hard engineering fact.
     
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    well i just got the modded vbios for the 860m, looking to easily break 5k in firestrike and possibly close to 6k if this thing handles the voltages well. Will report results soon
     
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    Run some X runs to get an idea of how it scales with resolution too :)
     
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    Nice testing, hope to se more of those numbers going up!
     
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    That's pretty darn good. Thanks for posting up your results!

    Sent with love from my Galaxy S4
     
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    Yep, this score puts my 860m right next to a stock 780m. Pretty amazing, with some more tweaking, and more voltage, the skies the limit on this little maxwell. For now, ill be sticking with what I have, no need to push this chip much further yet.
     
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    On what games did you tested it so far?
     
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    And did you do 3DMark11?
     
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    Did you got a new Vbios ?
    edit: should ve read :p
    isnt it a little dangerous to go 1.5Ghz on a gpu ?
     
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    Wow, You have beaten GTX 680M in Firestrike Extreme by almost 50%. Holy cow thats impressive. :thumbsup:
    http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2013/04/firestrike.png

    Looks like this GPU is truly awesome for even 1080p gaming
     
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    Very nice scores. I'm wondering if those vRAM chips are rated for 6000MHz? The ones in the Clevo W230SS can't go much past +200MHz which is quite disappointing, that fast vRAM makes up for the 128-bit bus.

    Can you report max voltage during your runs? Just show Max on GPU-z is fine. I'd be curious because W230SS max voltage (with nVidiaInspector voltage slider all the way to the right) is 1.1875 where stock is 1.1500. Not much of a voltage bump.

    Only depends on thermals and voltage. If either are too high it can be bad for the lifetime of the chip.
     
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    Where did you get your modded vBios? I bet it can be flashed over the 850m bios as well (N550JK is Maxwell 850m luckily)
     
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    the max reported voltage is 1.1870. Also, im not sure what the hynix vram is rated for but asus used some very nice components in this 860m. I am looking to push the voltage even further so I can go higher, this chip should be able to do 1.6 or 1.7ghz on the core with some more juice :)
     
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    1.7ghz!! Crazy!!

    I would LOVE to see this chip pull level with a stock clocked 880M GTX!!

    What are we in for when they shrink this chip to 20nm and give us "high end chips" as well! This is unbelievable.

    I have a question while running this huge OC (to run level with 780M) what is your tdp? I hope far lower than the 780M stock? If only I could get my hands on one to drop into the M15x :D
     
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    Those scores look way too low. A 680m typically scores ~2000 in Fire Strike Extreme and ~4000 in Fire Strike.

    Still an impressive OC though.
     
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    Well I just received a new vbios with more voltage control , time to wreck those scores :)
     
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    Will the 860m run rome total war 2 on high @1080?
     
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    Hey there I have the same video card and have been working in the ASUS community to show how far this card can go and messing with voltage. I jst requested Prema Mod for a vBios for this card. Here is a link hope we can put our brains together and come up with the best settings.


    G750jm - 860m gpu stable oc. Clock @ 1097 & memory @ 1389
     
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    awesome, so far im stable up to 1500 on the core and 6600 memory. Im currently working with prema to get more voltage out of this, Should be able to hit 1600-1700 core clocks from what I see. Max temps during stress right now is only mid 70's after a long while, love having the amazing cooling system in g750
     
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    Yeah man its an awesome system, can you shoot me a link for the vbios so I can test as well? Im currently @ 1230 core / 5500Mhz / 0.900 V. OC UV would like to get my hands dirty. Thx man.
     
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