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    8800 series or wait for 9800??

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Nocturnal310, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi...read this...

    The GeForce GF9800 will be as quiet as a mouse
    Squeak

    By Theo Valich: Thursday, 16 August 2007, 5:23 PM

    THE GRAPHICS CARD PAIR like to produce quiet cards these days.

    And we hear in a suitably-muted whisper that Nvidia's G92 or NV55 as it it may also be known should be as quiet as a mouse.

    Ever since the GeForceFX debacle, Nvidia has been producing ever quieter graphics cards, and this GeForce "9800" (truth to be told, 8900 moniker might be more appropriate) is another improvement over previous generation product.

    As it turns out, in preliminary audio tests, the new card is more silent than not just 8800Ultra, but it is also less noisy than 8800GTX. It turns out that we are slowly approaching the era of silent monsters - computers that will emit less noise that your typical 15.4-inch laptop.

    Of course, this all may seem too rosy, but as far as the board design - things are progressing nicely. GPU-wise, Charlie wrote that there are signs of problems with silicon that might have to be sorted with new spin, which could delay the release of the product. Users can only hope that Nvidia will fix all the issues on hand before they release the card.

    Who knows, we might even see SLI with more than one monitor.

    AMD's "Consumer Experience" group might be well advised to acquire one 8800GTX card and take an HD2900XT board plus whatever the name is for R680. Then, put them on passively cooled computers in a silent room, and start a 3D test. Compare the noise produced by 8800GTX to others.

    Whoever was it who that said that noise was not important? Heprobably took a page from Dan Vivoli's book from the age of the GeForce FX fan-blower. Only thing is, will AMD dare to remake this video afterwards…?



    Source:http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inqui...he-geforce-gf9800-will-be-as-quiet-as-a-mouse




    My questions:
    1.Should i wait for 9800 release ? hoping that it wont be shockingly priced or should i a buy a 8800?

    2. How is DX 10.1 different from DX10? & is it tooo ahead of its time?
     
  2. metaldeath

    metaldeath Notebook Consultant

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    It depends on your needs ,if you are a gamer i suggest to buy a strong desktop at less than half price ,if you need a notebook in the near future for studying and for gaming i suggest to wait for a 8700...more power means more battery eating and heat so a 8800 based laptop will be little reactors always powered by ac...
     
  3. leomax

    leomax Notebook Guru

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    That article isnt correct,
    G92 is what we get as 8800GT/new 8800GTS in desktops and 8800M GTX in notebooks..

    The next generation is still few couple of months away afaik..
     
  4. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The INQ is generally considered to be an unreliable source of information as well, so take them with a grain of salt.
     
  5. Harleyquin07

    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

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    Rule of thumb I've learned here: If you can wait then do so until the more powerful card arrives. If you can't then open the wallet now and upgrade.

    If you are really into gaming and don't travel a lot then build a top-end desktop at less cost than the high-end gaming notebooks.
     
  6. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Oo look, The Inq got things wrong again.....


    They're talking about what ended up being the 8800GT... ;)

    And yes, it is a kick-ass card, but not much point in waiting for it, since it's already out.
     
  7. RobHague

    RobHague Notebook Consultant

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    No don't wait for the 9800, wait for the 10800. In the mean time everyone else will be playing games and you will be waiting for the "most future proof" graphics card to arrive.
     
  8. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Point taken,get the desktop with the 8800GT. Best bang for the buck IMO.
     
  9. sgtmatt1

    sgtmatt1 Notebook Evangelist

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    Look:
    You wait for a card, FINALLY THAT CARD IS OUT! A day later... now they are talking about the next card, should i wait for that card?

    You can keep waiting and keep waiting, then you will never buy a card :p
    So: Get the 8800
     
  10. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    I'd say get the 8800GTS (G92). Best bang for the buck I'd say (when mid-December rolls around... :/)
     
  11. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    or an HD 3870...they are cheap as well
     
  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    HD3870 can`t even compete with the 8800GT, let alone the new GTS . Ati is keeping up the 'good' work and staying way behind nVidia.
     
  13. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    yup INQ is more of gossip than fact based..i ll go with 8800 ...thanks guys
     
  14. FriscoPowers

    FriscoPowers Notebook Guru

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    i don't know if this has been said before, but if you keep on waiting for the next technology to come out, you'll never upgrade. so just upgrade when you're dissatisfied with your computers performance, not when the new tech comes out.
     
  15. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    actually i was curious if 9800 can finally max out Crysis which 8800 also cannot..thats why i essentially asked
     
  16. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Crysis is still immature, driver-wise. An 8800GT should max it out,but at a lower resolution.
     
  17. techguy2k7

    techguy2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Explain this then. The HD 3870 faster than the 8800 GT when you apply 8x AA.
     
  18. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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  19. dmacfour

    dmacfour Are you aware...

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    buy a card now and don't even worry until the card stops running games to satifaction.
     
  20. techguy2k7

    techguy2k7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you read the link or commentary I provided? You cannot negate the fact that the HD 3870 out-performs the 8800 GT when using 8x AA in nearly all titles, and at all resolutions. In fact, as the resolution grows, the performance gap between the two grows ever-larger, to the point that by the time you get to 2560x1600 the HD 3870 is twice as fast as the 8800 GT, and even faster than the vaunted Ultra.
     
  21. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    ^^AHAHAHAHAHA!!

    Why anyone do that? I mean, that would cost $$$$. Not only that, the performance wouldn't be that of a desktop..

    @techguy2k7, I'm not sure what you're smoking but a HD 3870 DOES NOT outperform a 8800GT. They might be close at lower resolutions, but when you crank up the res and AA, the GT is by far the winner.
     
  22. jon12315

    jon12315 Notebook Enthusiast

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    games for DX10 has just came out recently, which requires a lot of
    graphics much more than DX9 games.
    So my suggestion is, if you want more DX10 effects, then wait for nvidia 9 series, otherwise 8700m GT can handle DX9 games pretty well. :)
     
  23. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    the 3870 scales better to higher resolutions...its minimum FPS is always higher then the 8800gt at higher resolutions, which I think is more important than average. then again you could just overclock and have saved $60 and pretty much the same card..
     
  24. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Are ya sure?

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/472/10

    Edit: I do realize that they come very close at higher resolutions and that both cards are using drivers that are a little out of date.. :/
     
  25. Syntax Error

    Syntax Error Notebook Deity

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    If you can get a good deal on the 8800GT for $220-250 (Dell had some good deals on the MSI 8800GT for $208 and the XFX 8800GT for $235 a couple days ago), then go for it. Constantly waiting for the new card is stupid, and the concept of "futureproofing" is a sham; just get what you can afford now, unless a release is imminent (like if you're looking at the 7900 series to buy like a week before the 8-series is released, for example).

    The new G92 8800GTS is nice, but I don't think it has quite the price-to-performance ratio ($100 more over the 8800GT's MSRP for 12 more pixel shader pipelines and a dual slot cooler?), and initial benchmarks at TweakTown reveals that at high resolutions with AA and AF, the 8800GTX's higher bus bandwidth and memory gave it the edge.

    Again, to reiterate, if you can find a great deal on 8800GTs, that should do you very well until the 9-series.
     
  26. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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  27. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    You should wait. It will be worth it. ;)